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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Lol. VQ already trying to vouch and push their boy Steele. We have had enough VQ and trying to tell us we Pruitt was a good coach. You’re not going to convince us that Steele is a good hire. Just stop. Lebny isn’t leaving Ole Miss with Kiffin for UT.
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This is only, I repeat only acceptable, if we can’t get a legit proven head coach. If they try to promote another mid major star on the rise I’d rather just deal with Steele for a year. It would send a message that we are only looking for top tier and won’t settle anymore.
 
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jackcrevol said:
I dont buy that this isnt a top job. it simply just isnt the case. It just got a lot harder, but, the groundwork is there.

we do have to fight the Chancellor. She's only hindrance.
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She and Boyd backed everything Fulmer stumped since her hire. Someone communicated the mess that was happening and she did her job. The cover-up is what destroys you. Didn’t know what we were getting when she was hired, but I’m impressed.
 
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HankHill said:
I don’t want to pick a coach based off one recruit. He may be a good coach for us but he’s pretty far down my list.
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I’m not saying we pick him based off of that, I just believe as far as Simpson goes, I believe he gives us the best shot. Including Kiffin, whom I support.
 
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HankHill said:
Those are always in place everywhere. Fulmer was a figure head. We basically haven’t had an actual AD for 3 years. The only good thing is that he gave Pruitt anything he wanted so it put our spending and support structure where it needed to be like the other elites. But in doing so he also let Pruitt run wild which ultimately got us burned. There was no give and take.
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I agree with you here but Plowman trusted fulmer to monitor Pruitt. She won’t do that again as she knows her job is on the line.

I think its clear that if I the next coach has ncaa issues she is fired and rightfully so.
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
VQ believes Steele would target Lebby for OC if he gets the head coaching job.
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He was going to hire him at Barn but does anyone really trust Lebby as OC? That's like everyone getting excited over hiring a DC from Bama. Guess what, it's not Lebby's offense
 
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butchna said:
She and Boyd backed everything Fulmer stumped since her hire. Someone communicated the mess that was happening and she did her job. The cover-up is what destroys you. Didn’t know what we were getting when she was hired, but I’m impressed.
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definite step up from CBD.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
If we want to be back on the coaching search again in potentially 2-3 years, then hire Bill O'Brien. It's no secret that BOB wants to be back in the NFL. If he has even remote success pulling us out of this dumpster fire, he'll parlay that into an NFL coaching gig and leave. Please do not get BOB.
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I agree this is the biggest CON to BOB. But if he can spend 2 years here and put us on a similar trajectory as PSU had then I’ll take it. PSU was in a worse situation than us and his stability allowed them to pull out even after he left. I will take that risk over Steele or Chadwell (upside but HUGE risk).
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
Kiffin not out of the realm of possibility according to Hubbs and the gang.
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If kiffin is willing to do the same thing that left us in the decade long tailspin to another school that gave him his ticket back In.... why would we be comfortable with that. It’s not about money or contract protection..... it’s about turnover. There is near zero percent chance kiffin is going to be our coach.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
This is only, I repeat only acceptable, if we can’t get a legit proven head coach. If they try to promote another mid major star on the rise I’d rather just deal with Steele for a year. It would send a message that we are only looking for top tier and won’t settle anymore.
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What happens next year when we get spurned again? Another year of Steele? No thanks. If Steele enters the season as "interim" coach, I have zero doubt they drop that interim tag and just give him the job, even with a crappy record. The whole interim thing is just another way to try and slip it by us. Steele should not be our HC.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Same...I am mad at all of them, but I am angriest at those that took advantage of a bad situation to regain power. They are slimy backstabbing traitors that deserve to have their reputations ruined just as Pruitts and Fulmer are.


I will not be a hypocrite and hate Pruitt and Neids and all the rest involved for doing exactly what I thought they were doing to compete with Bama and Georgia and Florida for talent. I am not shocked at them, I am shocked at Plowman and Boyd for throwing back the curtain for the whole world to see.

I don't buy this "beacon of Integrity" massive load of ******** that Haslam flunkie ***** is selling...
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C'mon, bud. What do you expect them to say to mitigate the sanctions? Something like, "Yeah, we did it and the next coaching staff will keep doing it!"

Yes - Donde and Randy are using it to cement their hold on the affairs of UT. However, Legal is driving the train. If they don't do what Legal says, they are gone. They like what they are doing, so they want to keep doing it. It's the same story and method used in big business, government, etc. When employees commit major, intentional, dumb errors in judgment; the question always is do we handle it internally and say nothing, or, is it out of hand already? We all know it was the later and blatant. So the lies and coverup would have made it worse than owning up to it and calling a foul on ourselves. There was no internal audit that caught it - they were just rocking along doing nothing. It took a whistleblower, which gives the whistleblower legal protections. IMO, Donde had no choice to go this route. Had an internal auditor come to her and reported it, she would have a different path to follow.

Blame the idiots that did it the wrong way in the first place, not the ones that are cleaning it up and then using it for their advantage. The idiots are the ones that are giving Donde and Randy the opportunity to do what they are doing. The legal side said this is the way you handle it to mitigate the damage. They may be right or wrong, but based on the current way of handling these issues with the NCAA through summary disposition instead of full blown NCAA investigation, it has worked out better for the schools and everybody involved. Facts - despite what posters who do not research what they post may say about it.

Would it be different if you knew other schools had reported UT coaches for recruiting violations to the NCAA? Sort of like Fulmer did with Bama, Freeze and others in the past? How do we know that has not happened over the past three years? I bet it has. So Fulmer becomes AD and what goes around comes around as he fell asleep at the wheel and played big dog.
 
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