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rekinhavoc said:
There is no way he should want to stay. The way this was handled should be a big neon sign saying we don't want you to him . If he is smart and that is debatable he should settle. If he gets a show cause he should have plenty of cash to ride it out.

I believe if he had a good season the university would have protected him. You don't protect a 3-7 coach in his third year that put such a poor product on the field. Still baffles me why they extended him if he is such a difficult person behind the scenes.
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Honestly how was it handled wrongly towards Pruitt? No one in the AD have said anything about him. Were they not supposed to investigate it at all? The only people saying anything are fans and media members....and thats based on assumptions.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Absolutely not. We lose a recruiting class, a year of development, and prolongs the rebuild. Absolutely no way anyone should want to keep Pruitt at this point.
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Exactly. NOTHING good will come from keeping Pruitt.
Things will actually get worse.
I'm pretty sure the admin knows this.... they just don't care.
That is the only logical reason they will keep him. They just dont care.
 
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My thoughts are this:

- HT going to Bama really doesn't make a ton of sense at the moment. Obviously, I don't know his thoughts/feelings at the moment, but while I know Bama was his runner-up and Saban is still there, they have just about as much coaching staff uncertainty as we do at the moment. Additionally, I feel as though it's been reported in previous offseasons that he's been homesick before and rumors would float around that he wanted to move back closer to home and going to Alabama really doesn't fix that issue. But who knows.

- Steele, in my opinion, would not be named Interim head coach unless he is leading our team next year as a bridge gap. It would make absolutely no sense to promote him to an Interim title as a bridge gap for three weeks or whatever while we did a coaching search. Why would UT bring in Steele to lead the program for a few weeks? He has no connection to most players on the team and having him lead isn't going to help players from transferring out or would he have the established authority to lead an offseason program when his players don't know him and know he's going to be replaced with someone new in due time. You'd promote Graham/Tee/Chaney to do that, not a "stranger".

Anyway, not that anyone cares, but those are my thoughts.
 
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UTProf said:
The booster situation is one of our biggest problems. We don't have an AD. We have factions and the guy who has the title of AD has to work with and through them and they are often at war with one another. Alabama had this exact situation and eventually they reached a point of absolute desperation and the boosters finally surrendered money and most importantly, power. That is the only reason they landed Saban. Until our boostes and power players surrender their power to an actual AD and that AD is empowered to hire a big name we will continue to fail. Sadly, I have no faith in our boosters. I think the difference between them and the aforementioned Bama boosters is that ours don't care about winning. They have other issues on their minds. The Bama guys and the boys from Mississippi (both schools) are/were boosters that gave a damn about winning. As the Mississippi boys showed you don't need to be the wealthiest school if your power players give a damn -- even Arkansas boosters gave a damn.
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Agree completely. Great analysis.

Having lived in Arky for a dozen years I can attest to your statement. Once Broyles lost his mojo due to age, retired as AD in 2007, and passed away 10 years later; their program did a similar version of what ours has done in almost the exact same timeframe. He controlled the room just like Dickey did. Guess who woke up first between them and us? Pittman is not just an elite O-line coach. He knows the entire game and how it fits together. He's good politically with the boosters, fans and admin. The players he has coached up love him and will give him everything they have. So they hired proven coordinators who have modern schemes to pair up with him. All they have to do now is shape the roster to the schemes. They moved past the booster politics and wised up. They will have to continue to hire quality coordinators to replace those leaving while Pittman builds his system. But they have a solid play to become relevant again.

So, we may not have hit bottom yet as they tanked worse than us before getting it right. Maybe it was because they cannot attract as many elite players. A higher level of talent combined with bad coaching may give a program a couple more wins a season. So what the bottom is may be different. Regardless, it is still at the bottom and unacceptable. Putting bandaids on Jeremy is delusional. This requires everybody getting on the same page and committing to solid plan with capable staff employed to execute the plan. Going back to the future with proven failures will never work. They need to wise up and commit to excellence or just say screw it and let it be Vandy East.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Not so fast my friend.
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Yeah, been hearing that since december.
Its done dude. Pruitt is the coach next year. Every day people claim should, in all reason be the day we know something... comes and goes.
They said as long as he isnt hiring coaches, we are good. But if he hires a coach, thats a sure sign he is coming back. Well my friend, he not only survived every day he was supposed to be fired but he also hired a coach. I dont care how many people say he didnt do the hiring, or whatever excuses to keep giving themselves hope. I don't understand how anyone could honestly think he is going to get fired at this point.
 
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DustyRockSolid said:
Pruitt. You need to accept reality, my child.
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And what exactly is obvious about Pruitt staying? Is it the ongoing internal investigation? Is it the fact we have the highest number of players in the transfer portal in the league? Oh is it that the stadium will be a ghost town next year? Oh yes it is SOOO obvious he is coming back. Hahaha ok dude.
 
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VFL10 said:
And what exactly is obvious about Pruitt staying? Is it the ongoing internal investigation? Is it the fact we have the highest number of players in the transfer portal in the league? Oh is it that the stadium will be a ghost town next year? Oh yes it is SOOO obvious he is coming back. Hahaha ok dude.
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I'm not listing every reason its clear Pruitt is coming back. If you don't already see them...then no amount of talking or explaining will convince you. You've made up your mind regardless of the evidence.
I would love for Pruitt to be fired but there is only evidence pointing to him staying.
 
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vol81 said:
All this talk about Pruitt leaving and going straight to Alabama as their DC might be overlooking one important point. If the investigation reveals Pruitt is implicated then the likelihood of him getting a show cause order is significant. Granted with how slow the NCAA acts that show cause order may not be coming for a year but make no mistake that will be a consideration to whoever hires Pruitt post Tennessee. So in a sense Pruitt is not just fighting for his life as Tennessee head coach he is also fighting for his ability to coach anywhere in college in the near future.
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This. Spot on.
 
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I had reservations about Fulmer as AD (I have even more now), but I was excited about the fact that a football guy would actually be hiring the next UT football coach instead of some pencil-necked bean counter.

Unfortunately, the same issues that plagued Fulmer and got him fired in ‘08 are still there: failure to evolve with the game and holding on to ineffective personnel way too long.
 
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