Democrats plan to introduce articles of impeachment as early as Monday

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Carp said:
"Rigged" isn't a term I would use. No one forced people to vote Trump or to not vote HRC in 2016. And no votes were changed or added to ensure a Trump victory.

But they did interfere with the email hacks and disinformation campaigns. What affect that interference had on the actual election is unknown. Again, HRC was a truly terrible and unlikable candidate.

Russia did in fact attempt to interfere in this election there are plenty of articles about it. Even some of Trump's closest allies admitted as much, though they were more concerned with Chinese inference than Russian.
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So, what was more effective, the Russia misinformation campaign, the DNC misinformation campaign, the GOP misinformation campaign. The only interference any of those would have in an election, is not knowing that they are not different. The difference is which campaign the MSM is supporting and mutating to the public. If JB was Trump, and HB was Trump Jr., I garontee that laptop business would not have been ignored.
 
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Carp said:
No. At least not legally. Which is why there has been constant debate. The writers of the constitution left many things to be changed as needed (or ammendments). That's why so many things are considered implied. Once the states ratified it, they were legally obligated to adhere to the Constitution. It is implied that if you secede from the Union, you have broken that legal obligation.

If they wanted it to be so easy to exit the Union, why would they not have made a clear path to do so?
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Logic says the path to exit was the same path enter.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Oh no. Don’t you back off now. You’ve been calling to remove Trump by any legal means necessary. This is stupid and nothing more than political games so you’re already all in on impeachment. You were with the first one so you don’t get to wiggle around this one. Neither impeachment had any merit and now impeachment is cheapened for good.
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I'll continue to base it on what is best for the long term/short term future of the country. First impeachment was a no brainer. Second impeachment not as clear cut. I'll stick with this ranking.
Best - Trump does the right thing and resigns (lol)
Next best - Pence uses the 25th - as much as he wants to and knows he should, he probably will not.
Next best - Impeachment with republican support - most likely
Next best - do nothing and cross your fingers
 
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luthervol said:
I'll continue to base it on what is best for the long term/short term future of the country. First impeachment was a no brainer. Second impeachment not as clear cut. I'll stick with this ranking.
Best - Trump does the right thing and resigns (lol)
Next best - Pence uses the 25th - as much as he wants to and knows he should, he probably will not.
Next best - Impeachment with republican support - most likely
Next best - do nothing and cross your fingers
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You’re right, the first impeachment was a no-brainer. Pelosi was right to refuse it a first because it was party politics. Once the more radical parts of her party started putting pressure she caved and forever cheapened the process. That decision was a no-brainer and the Dems still got it wrong. You don’t really want what is best for this country, you want Dems in power regardless of the cost. You’ll say otherwise but it’s not hard to see.
 
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hog88 said:
Logic says the path to exit was the same path enter.
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Logic would say if the majority of a State's population no longer feels the federal government represents them, they should be allowed to leave peacefully and not because a bunch of other states say they can. Obviously, negotiations would take place for the status of federal property, but all in all, a peaceful breakup much like the Soviets did was within reason.

Until greed, post for power and ego got involved at the federal level.
 
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Grand Vol said:
That dude created an entire year's worth of memes in one afternoon.
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I wonder if he'll wear that Buffalo skin or whatever it is to court. I think it'd pair well with a brown suit, really class up the court room.
 
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Septic said:
I wonder if he'll wear that Buffalo skin or whatever it is to court. I think it'd pair well with a brown suit, really class up the court room.
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As long as he doesn't wear it with a gray suit, I'll be happy.

Maybe I'm not "hip" to the current fashions, but I've always been turned off by someone wearing brown shoes with a gray suit.

Or brown with navy blue for that matter. I think both gray and navy blue should be worn with black shoes. Period and if I was President, I'd EO that sh!t the first day in office.
 
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Grand Vol said:
As long as he doesn't wear it with a gray suit, I'll be happy.

Maybe I'm not "hip" to the current fashions, but I've always been turned off by someone wearing brown shoes with a gray suit.

Or brown with navy blue for that matter. I think both gray and navy blue should be worn with black shoes. Period and if I was President, I'd EO that sh!t the first day in office.
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A promising step towards unity. Eliminating fashion faux pas.
 
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Septic said:
Maybe if she'd have been selling loose cigarettes you'd have approved of her killing. Instead she was just reading her Bible while inexplicably caught unaware climbing through a barracaded window in the middle of riot in the U.S. Capitol during a coup attempt.
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a coup attempt?......damn.... you’ve been luthered
 
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luthervol said:
Don't know. Probably not - I guess they are not viewed as equally threatening. And I agree that they are not.
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They torched a freaking police station with people inside..... your hypocrisy is so intense it’s as if you’re only pretending you’re a f’ing idiot
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not when there is an emergency like this and the police have set up a clear line. That should be the dividing point. Anyone who went in at that point should be arrested at least for that. If they are seen on video or are reported to have engaged in destructive conduct, or conduct resulting in injury, then charge them with that as well.

As for firing, yes if they crossed the police line.
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What if you entered where the cop removed the barricade and started waiving people in?
 
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Democrats need to cool it with impeachment until after the inauguration.
 
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