Democrats plan to introduce articles of impeachment as early as Monday

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Carp said:
Trump was elected because HRC was an impossibly terrible candidate and due to some shady Russian shenanigans. He lost the popular vote in both elections and even failed to bring in even 45% of the popular vote in the 2016 Republican primary. He never even had an approval rating over 49% even once.
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Oh, you're one of those. Continued conversations are a waste of time.
 
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Can we please have another march across the hall from the house to the senate so we can make fun of those goofy looking morons again? Nancy Pelosi is a joke and an evil witch for even thinking about allowing this to happen. Hopefully they will applaud and cheer when the solemn event happens again so she can do the motherly zip it move.
 
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Carp said:
Trump was elected because HRC was an impossibly terrible candidate and due to some shady Russian shenanigans. He lost the popular vote in both elections and even failed to bring in even 45% of the popular vote in the 2016 Republican primary. He never even had an approval rating over 49% even once.
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Tells us all we need to know.
 
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GSD82 said:
No one was more divisive than your boy obama. The race riots and violene started under him
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Obama isn't "my boy." Voted against him.

Race riots are a product of the environment. And they hardly started under Obama.
 
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Carp said:
Obama isn't "my boy." Voted against him.

Race riots are a product of the environment. And they hardly started under Obama.
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There was no BLM, no one was shooting cops like in Dallas, no one was burning businesses down until barrys first few months when he said the cop acted stupidly. I was on after that
 
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Carp said:
One of what? Everything in that post is 100% true.
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Russia had nothing to do whatsoever with the 2016 election results. If you still believe that is a contributing factor to Trump's election there is no reason to continue debating you. True HRC was arguably the worst presidential candidate ever and definitely the worst possible option the Dems could have ran in 2016 but you like many others refuse to recognize the frustration with the GOP the average voter had in the milquetoast Demlite candidates it had put up previously.

Trump was the result of frustration within the GOP and the widened fracture of the country caused by Obama. He didn't cause the divide, he capitalized on it.
 
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Y9 Vol said:
Tells us all we need to know.
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I mean the FBI pretty clearly laid it out that there was Russian Interference. I didn't say Trump was involved if that is what you are implying. Just that he benefited from Russian interference, which he clearly did.
 
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hog88 said:
Yet almost every Union fort was seized without single shot being fired except for Sumter because Lincoln ordered the commander to hold at all costs.
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Dude, just stop. SC fired the first shot. They seceded from the Union. Everything about the Civil War was started entirely by the South because (astonishingly), they didn't like the results of the election and thought their rights (mostly the right to own other humans) were being jeopardized. Everything Lincoln did was an attempt to keep the Union together up until an act of war was commenced. And again, even if you thought it was because he didn't remove US troops, that was a policy started by Buchanon. And again, it was a US institution with US soldiers, so any seizing of a US fort could also be considered an act of war.
 
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hog88 said:
It was this fractured 4 years ago, that's why Trump was elected. The Dems and MSM ensured that it became more fractured over the past 4 years.
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Sooooo..... all the people with Trump flags and red hats, their storming the Capitol, attacking police officers, destroying government property, and threatening to kill Pelosi or even Pence, that is the fault of the Democrats and the MSM?

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Septic said:
Trump should aspire to have the morality these two possess, huge upgrades to be had.
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I will accept there is a chance Biden is slightly more moral, but not by much. We'd argue till the cows came home about ole spread 'em and beg 'em
 
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Carp said:
Dude, just stop. SC fired the first shot. They seceded from the Union. Everything about the Civil War was started entirely by the South because (astonishingly), they didn't like the results of the election and thought their rights (mostly the right to own other humans) were being jeopardized. Everything Lincoln did was an attempt to keep the Union together up until an act of war was commenced. And again, even if you thought it was because he didn't remove US troops, that was a policy started by Buchanon.
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Lincoln could have easily withdrawn those forces and no shots would have been fired. He was warned but he wanted a war.
 
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hog88 said:
Lincoln could have easily withdrawn those forces and no shots would have been fired. He was warned but he wanted a war.
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And the South could have easily not have seceded and seized a US owned facility. Lincoln didn't force any of these things. A bunch of pissed of southerners started the war the minute they decided to secede from the Union. If they saw fit, the US would have had legal grounds to send in troops and stop the rebellion as soon as the states seceded.
 
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VolStrom said:
Can we please have another march across the hall from the house to the senate so we can make fun of those goofy looking morons again? Nancy Pelosi is a joke and an evil witch for even thinking about allowing this to happen. Hopefully they will applaud and cheer when the solemn event happens again so she can do the motherly zip it move.
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The entire freaking party are constantly complaining about the right being sore losers when they hijacked 4 years of a duly elected president and then they continue this mockery. Now they are claiming a constitutional crisis when the only problem with the Constitution is that it doesn't read like they want it to.
 
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Carp said:
And the South could have easily not have seceded and seized a US owned facility. Lincoln didn't force any of these things. A bunch of pissed of southerners started the war the minute they decided to secede from the Union. If they saw fit, the US would have had legal grounds to send in troops and stop the rebellion as soon as the states seceded.
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No, the union was freely joined and at that time there was no law nor BS SCOTUS ruling saying states didn't have a right to leave. Lincoln had no grounds to keep forces in the states that seceded nor did he have legal grounds to send additional troops to reinforce them.
 
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Carp said:
And the South could have easily not have seceded and seized a US owned facility. Lincoln didn't force any of these things. A bunch of pissed of southerners started the war the minute they decided to secede from the Union. If they saw fit, the US would have had legal grounds to send in troops and stop the rebellion as soon as the states seceded.
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Soooo don't stand up for rights (whether perceived or actual) and just do what the gubment says? You are losing your case for being middle of the road reasonable.
 
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