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m1al said:
Heard that here but 🤷‍♂️

Seems like there would be some rules not allowing that.
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That's just where my mind goes when I see people talking about him micromanaging, because they asked him to. Pruitt said he could go into his office and get advice whenever he needed to. Just sounds like the staff invited it.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I’m trying to work through the list of names that seem to be getting the most attention in this thread and I’m getting there.

Billy Napier – This search’s Scott Frost
Gus Malzahn – This search’s Les Miles
Hugh Freeze – This search’s Bobby Petrino
Kevin Steele – This search’s Jeremy Pruitt
Lane Kiffin – This year’s Lane Kiffin
Jamey Chadwell – This search’s runner up for Scott Frost

I don’t know much about Fisher and Marrone but at a glance I think I’d go with Fisher out of the two. I do think we need a CEO as a head football coach and someone specifically that can handle the pressure of the job at UT. I think to some degree all three of our most recent head coaches have come unraveled as their tenures here wound down.

I really think we should have hired Jon Gruden in 2012 and that would have been his window in my opinion. I’ve always thought we needed to do a splash hire to reinvigorate the program. We need instant credibility especially in recruiting. We recruit well enough to field a mid-tier SEC team but fans are never going to accept that as a goal. We have to figure out a way to compete with the best and I think it starts with consistently out-recruiting the best. Obviously that’s a tall order but I really think that’s what we’re up against.

I’ve seen some suggestions that the new coach wouldn’t be facing as much of a rebuild as some of our other recent coaches but I disagree. We’ve been is a rebuilding mode for considerably more than a decade and we can’t even sustain getting a foundation in place before the house caves in. We’re hiring production home builders to build a mega mansion with all the best of high end luxuries and that task is way out of their league. It’s seems our plan is and always has been to catch lightning in a bottle. It’s unlikely we’re going to find success – at least not on our own. If the rest of the big six in the conference would implode then maybe but we’re not going to catch them in their current stride unless we kick in some afterburners. jmo.

The cost for who we need is probably around $10 million per year and total CEO-like control. The cost for what we’ll probably get is likely $4 million and micromanagement from a bunch of losers behind the scenes. Same song fourth verse. jmo.

So here’s the challenge – they’re not coming here but who can you think of that might be worth paying $10 million a year to and working out an arrangement to where other than compliance everyone else at UT is hands off everything below the head coach. There’s not a lot of options and we’re not trying to be realistic here. Realistic won’t get us anywhere that we haven’t already been. If we can't get Lincoln Riley then I’m thinking maybe we should go the Barnes route, you know, get a guy that was fired by the other UT. It might not even cost that much. Just a thought.
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Precisely the state of affairs. I understand there’s an investigation with potential penalties that may limit the very next hire but they HAVE TO go big (GRAND SLAM) on one of the next 2 hires (thinking that this hire after Pruitt is simply a “bridge” hire). IF they want to win then they’ve got to pony up to leapfrog everything they have been up against (recruiting, coaching, etc.). Can’t incrementally climb out of the abyss we are in. If they don’t want to win and pony up then they will continue to live amongst their current big brother, Vanderbilt, for the foreseeable future.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
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he's not wrong. it's not ideal. it is nothing to get excited about. but it's not wrong either.

it's just situational awareness.

we're not gonna get any big names. we won't even attempt with kiffin or freeze and Napier isn't coming here.
this search, still assuming there is one which it seems likely at this point, starts with guys like marrone and malzahn...throw fisher or steele in there too if you want.

if we hire chadwell, i'm gonna say we "wind up" with him...i can't see that being the top of the list.

this program needs stability and calm and leadership.....the last 8 years have been a debacle in those things big time. so if nothing else guys marrone, malzahn or whoever you want to name from that ilk, at least gives you some confidence that there IS a direction (whether you agree with that direction or not, at least there IS one....), and they've at least been in charge of programs at high levels and won't shrink when something bad happens....cause, it probably will.

and the reality is, it doesn't matter what we do....there will be no fan consensus.....so they're going to have to manage that too.

bottom line, it's not gonna be a quick fix, and there's still several TBD's out there regarding what this roster ultimately looks like for the next year or two, so i don't see how anyone can put any expectations on what should happen by year 2 or 3 at this point.

anyway. we may just be, again, in the wonderful world of "you don't have a choice".
 
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I realize that we want to hire a coach that will have us back to winning SEC titles in the next couple of years, but I don't believe that's going to be the case. I believe that whoever we hire is going to do a better job than Pruitt has done for sure, so maybe we should start there and work our way forward. We need to make a hire that unites everyone who has a say in what happens in the football program. I just wish I had a clue who that would be.
 
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Aesius said:
Chadwell could be a good hire. 11 years head coaching experience and he's an offensive coach. He's not an SEC boy but he's got geographic ties. Wonder how well he would recruit the Carolinas and Georgia. Plus, he's young and looks cool. Pruitt looks decidedly uncool, so it would be refreshing to have a head coach who doesn't have a conehead and a permanently arched eyebrow like he just smelled a stout fart.
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Urban Meyer was not an SEC guy either. There is football outside of the SEC
 
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If it was Kirby or some other coach that turned us in, then it is time to go full nuclear retaliatory against everyone else in the conference. Dig up all the dirt and start dumping it on the front door of the NCAA.
 
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headhunter15 said:
Makes you wonder if Kirby turned UT in.
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Nope he isn’t stupid as he knows we would turn him in as well and NCAA knows whatever Pruitt is doing anyone associated with his past is likely doing. We turned ourselves in. It was literally bragged about on here like they were doing something good to run Pruitt out of town without thinking about the bigger picture
 
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