Were we wrong? I thought it was the Haslam’s fault.

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Skippy95 said:
Schiano was there for two years. He might have heard rumors. Is that knowing? I’ve heard many rumors about many people and I never once reported one of the many terrible things people have told me about other people to the police. I do think Paterno had knowledge. Unfortunately.
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Ok, that’s fair, and honest, but, if you had heard about an alleged illegal act at your workplace would you feel an obligation to report it to your boss? And thanks for answering the question, we all know it wasn’t his record at Rutgers that people were up in arms about.
 
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Eastknox865 said:
So a guy that goes 3-6 is a better option than a guy that goes 3-7. I will agree with you if we are only talking about math.
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That is a horrible comparison. His first year back at Rutgers versus year three for Pruitt. He had an 11-2 season at Rutgers of all places.

We’re just trying to justify our stupidity as a fan base.
 
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Skippy95 said:
Schiano was there for two years. He might have heard rumors. Is that knowing? I’ve heard many rumors about many people and I never once reported one of the many terrible things people have told me about other people to the police. I do think Paterno had knowledge. Unfortunately.
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Exactly. Schiano was basically passing through. UT fans were just pissed that we didn’t get a big name candidate, latched on to the Sandusky thing, and proceeded to embarrass ourselves to the whole country.
 
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joevol33 said:
We have a lot of Mexican folks around here, I live in Georgia. When I first moved here I worked with a guy, good friend now, who had been here 4-5 years. He stopped me in the middle of a conversation one day and said, "man, I thought I was doing really good with English until you moved here"😂. Me using "ain't", and "reckon" had him messed up.
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Thats a funny story man lol. I use it alot at work. I work at a tire factory up here and i notice myself saying it more than most.
 
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Nasavol said:
Ok, that’s fair, and honest, but, if you had heard about an alleged illegal act at your workplace would you feel an obligation to report it to your boss? And thanks for answering the question, we all know it wasn’t his record at Rutgers that people were up in arms about.
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I honestly think it’s too much of a hypothetical.. don’t want to get into my personal situation but with my job I would be obligated to report these things. If I were in Schiano’s position I think I’d wrestle with doing so without proof.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Why does everyone assume that someone with poor grammar couldn’t be an intelligent football coach? Of course Pruitt turned out to not be good at all, but I am tired of seeing people pick on his grammar. And I am a certified grammar Nazi of the highest order 😉 We Are hiring football coaches here, not faculty to teach comparative literature.
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But he represents the university in his press confetences, etc. Just reinforces the idea that we are all hicks.
 
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I wouldn't use this one game with the Browns as some shining example as to the Haslam's football competency. Pittsburgh has pretty much gifted the Browns 21 points.

The Haslams have a lot of money, but there is no doubt in my mind they have zero clue how to hire coaches and build a successful program. Schiano being marginally better than Pruitt would not be some hard feat. It's not hard to get much worse than 3-7.
 
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Skippy95 said:
I honestly think it’s too much of a hypothetical.. don’t want to get into my personal situation but with my job I would be obligated to report these things. If I were in Schiano’s position I think I’d wrestle with doing so without proof.
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I was in the same situation, I would either have to report it or deal with it. I think at some point you have to follow your moral compass. But if I’m Joe employee and I heard an employee was smoking dope, I’m probably “meh”. Now let’s say I’m Joe Employee and I hear a forklift driver is smoking dope, I’m pro going to say something. In that instance, there are shades of grey. But if they were using our company offices to sexually assault the cleaning staff, I’m damn sure going to say something. There are also black and white instances. I do think he heard rumors and failed to report them. I also believe that Joe Pa knew the rumors, and didn’t want to believe them, so he failed to report them as well.
 
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clarencepeabody said:
I’ve never understood the Haslam hate. If it weren’t for them, and their donations, we wouldn’t have anywhere near the facilities we do. And I’ve only met Jimmy a couple times (never met Bill), but Big Jim Haslam is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.

And yet, people on here slam them constantly. Just don’t get it.
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My earlier post will answer that. On this board rt now our fans hate everyone from Majors, Fulmer, Tee Martin, Freeze, Malzhan, Coastal Coach , and others I forgot. The fans at Tennessee just hate everyone. Their is no single person left they don’t hate! It’s really quite sad!
 
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chattavol420 said:
Because being highly intelligent is the most important asset a coach could have. It doesn’t get talked about a lot but it’s the truth. A great head coach makes tons and tons of little decisions all day. And a lot of big decisions also obviously. A lot of us speak slag sometimes when we’re just talking with friends or around the house. But we all know at times you need to come across as intelligent. Maybe it’s when you’re talking with the boss or meeting with a client etc. But Pruitt doesn’t do that. This tells you that he either isn’t intelligent enough to understand this (that coming across as an intelligent guy is important) or it tells you that he’s incapable or using proper grammar. Either way it’s a horrific look. And it does matter.

Let me ask you this...if you were building a home and wanted to meet with a few builder and one of them spoke like Pruitt but all the others came across as well spoken wouldn’t that weigh into consideration some? Not saying that you’d immediately eliminate someone from consideration all together over to at but you’d definitely take not if it. We all would.

Here’s a little more food for thought. Name a championship winning coach in the moder era of football that goes into press conferences and speaks as poorly as Pruitt. Most all of them come across as intelligent/well spoken individuals. I’m sure they all speak a little slang in their office with their assistants. But not in front of the cameras
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I have to agree for the most part; CJP does not pass the perception test—regardless of his level of intelligence. We may not like it...and it may not be fair, but perception=reality in today’s world.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Because being highly intelligent is the most important asset a coach could have. It doesn’t get talked about a lot but it’s the truth. A great head coach makes tons and tons of little decisions all day. And a lot of big decisions also obviously. A lot of us speak slag sometimes when we’re just talking with friends or around the house. But we all know at times you need to come across as intelligent. Maybe it’s when you’re talking with the boss or meeting with a client etc. But Pruitt doesn’t do that. This tells you that he either isn’t intelligent enough to understand this (that coming across as an intelligent guy is important) or it tells you that he’s incapable or using proper grammar. Either way it’s a horrific look. And it does matter.

Let me ask you this...if you were building a home and wanted to meet with a few builder and one of them spoke like Pruitt but all the others came across as well spoken wouldn’t that weigh into consideration some? Not saying that you’d immediately eliminate someone from consideration all together over to at but you’d definitely take not if it. We all would.

Here’s a little more food for thought. Name a championship winning coach in the moder era of football that goes into press conferences and speaks as poorly as Pruitt. Most all of them come across as intelligent/well spoken individuals. I’m sure they all speak a little slang in their office with their assistants. But not in front of the cameras
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You do know that Tom Herman is a member of Mensa, right?
 
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It’s just hard to turn your culture. A losing culture is crazy hard to overcome because expectations are lower and winning big feels unfamiliar to even upperclassmen and leaders. Once you have things in a winning culture, that starts to roll as well.

This is a shared problem of many years of gradually taking one step back. Then making another bad hire after another.
 
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Roustabout said:
The Brown’s (Haslam’s team) are stomping the living crap out of Pittsburgh. No question, they have front officed this team from the depths of the sewer to legitimacy.

Looking back, There is little doubt in my mind that Schiano would have been an immensely better choice than Pruitt. Not saying he would have been a great hire, but I think the powers that be may have known we weren’t going to get any better.
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A blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then. Look how many coaches he's been through before now.
 
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Roustabout said:
That is a horrible comparison. His first year back at Rutgers versus year three for Pruitt. He had an 11-2 season at Rutgers of all places.

We’re just trying to justify our stupidity as a fan base.
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No saying that he would've been a better coach here is showing your stupidity
 
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Roustabout said:
Come on man. The guy was ahead coach for 10 years and has coached for some very good teams. Hell, he was Urban Meyers choice and that guy knows coaching. What he did at Rutgers was pretty damn good. The mistake he made was not parlaying early success into another job after 2006 when he took them to 11-2. If you take his last seven seasons he was 56-33. He was a hot commodity but was too loyal. He would be light years better than Pruitt.
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71-73 in college and 11-21 in the NFL. He had one stellar year at 11-2, the rest were mostly mediocre with some 8 and 9 wins, but lots of losing records as well. If you think that screams success as a HC in the SEC, be my guest. I, however, do not see that as successful.

Also, just because one has success as a coordinator, doesn’t mean he will be successful as a HC. Case in point: Jeremy Pruitt.
 
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TeacherVol007 said:
71-73 in college and 11-21 in the NFL. He had one stellar year at 11-2, the rest were mostly mediocre with some 8 and 9 wins, but lots of losing records as well. If you think that screams success as a HC in the SEC, be my guest. I, however, do not see that as successful.

Also, just because one has success as a coordinator, doesn’t mean he will be successful as a HC. Case in point: Jeremy Pruitt.
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How do you feel about Jeff Fisher lol
 
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