Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Poppa T]

Could someone explain what a "show cause order" is, and how it would follow a coach to their next job?

A "show cause" penalty can apply to other prohibitions, not just "you can't coach" (Pearl, Tyndall).

For example, Jay Graham received a 6 month recruiting show cause associated with violations at Texas A&M, which followed him to UT. You can find the details on the web. IIRC, Graham's recruiting show cause just ended Dec 31, 2020.

I know, wikipedia, but it gives a good explanation around the term and should clear up any misconceptions.

Show-cause penalty - Wikipedia

 

[BSOVOL1967]

A consensus, on VN? Hahaha

Lol, so Chadwell and who else realistically would be in contention?

 

[Tennessee Stud]

Get Chadwell in here with Steele and Garner and LETS RIDE!!! TURN UP!!!!!

 

[volbeast33]

His offense doesn’t rely on smaller OL. It’s what he has at CC..

Yeah I searched all over and can’t find anywhere that he prefers smaller offensive lineman.

 

[hotcypress]

I'm gonna start throwing out worse and worse potential candidates just to see how quickly we start to see "I'd give him a shot or I'd be ok with that hire". I think we'll finally see the breaking point somewhere between Houston Nutt and Mike Martz.

 

[Weezer]

Over/Under 10 years before Tennessee wins SEC East again

With our admin, I'd definitely take the over. Hard to have hope when you have incompetent people that just don't give a **** making the decisions.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Chadwell named his first child after Heath Shuler...

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

I can totally get behind a Chadwell head coach and Steele/Garner defense. Bet we get some good transfers on defense if that’s the case.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Lol, so Chadwell and who else realistically would be in contention?

We really have no idea, just like coach searches.

 

[GVol1966]

I like spread option... can you imagine hookers and Salter running that

hookers usually know a thing or two about the spread

 

[UTwild82]

I would think they already have who they want lined up this time.

If not they are the dumbest, most incompetent people in the planet.

So there's a chance they don't.

 

[KB5252]

Three major concerns with Chadwell:

How does his offense translate to big boy ball?

Could he recruit well enough to get and keep us competitive?

Could he attract and command the staff needed at this level?

 

[Tennessee Stud]

I can totally get behind a Chadwell head coach and Steele/Garner defense. Bet we get some good transfers on defense if that’s the case.

TURN UP

 

[Tennessee Stud]

Chadwell named his first child after Heath Shuler...

If we’re going to get rid of JP, give me a cat with some Tennessee blood for a change. Let’s ride.

 

[aRmo]

Three major concerns with Chadwell:

How does his offense translate to big boy ball?

Could he recruit well enough to get and keep us competitive?

Could he attract and command the staff needed at this level?

Those questions are for any coach we hire. Imo is offense would do just fine here.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

@RiotVol did you watch this informative video on Chadwell offense?
My belief is his offense can work in the SEC. His offense caters around his players and what the D is showing.

Sorry, but I don’t see plays like that working with the speed and discipline of SEC defenses. Certainly not with the 300+ lb bruiser oline we have.
Would be much in the line of Butch trying to run read option with Worley. Would take 3 years to recruit players to do that and by then, Volnation would want Chadwells head on a spike.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Sorry, but I don’t see plays like that working with the speed and discipline of SEC defenses. Certainly not with the 300+ lb bruiser oline we have.
Would be much in the line of Butch trying to run read option with Worley. Would take 3 years to recruit players to do that and by then, Volnation would want Chadwells head on a spike.

He adapts his scheme. I like that he has built something different which means he can be very multiple. I’m sure we would run more spread.

 

[volbeast33]

Not trying to gloss over anything. What I read suggested some players received impermissible benefits leading to forfeiture of games.

They used scholarship money for unapproved items..... not the same as the coaching staff providing something to the players.

 

[Tennessee Stud]

Let’s ride

 

[BJWeeks]

Give me Freeze or Kiffin and their offenses that can hang 40+

 

[SmokinBob]

No, that’s not what it means.

It means any school wanting to hire said coach must go before the NCAA and show cause as to why they should be able to hire him without penalty.

^This^ and most schools don’t want to do that so it effectively keeps him out of college cosching for the time period the show cause is for.

 

[BeecherVol]

Well isnt that a fantastic outlook on things.

To date Pruitt is 0-1 in HC opportunities. You have to look really hard to find anybody that thinks he has a chance if retained. And if truthfully, that confidence is low.

By comparison,, UT is 0-4 trying to replace Fulmer from 12 years ago. Some would argue Pruitt is the worst hire of the 4. And they would have a solid argument.

To draw a parallel, if Pruitts 3rd season (3-7) is the definition of going backwards, whats the definition of Pruitt being the 4th hire since Fulmer.

Until further notice, UT has failed more times than Pruitt. And apparently just as stubborn about it.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Chadwell one drove 2 hours to Memphis AFTER his wife’s water broke so their child would be born in Tennessee..

 

[Weezer]

Is no one else alarmed that TN Dud and Kingston Vol are in on a Chadwell hire?

 

[Kingston Vol]

Sorry, but I don’t see plays like that working with the speed and discipline of SEC defenses. Certainly not with the 300+ lb bruiser oline we have.
Would be much in the line of Butch trying to run read option with Worley. Would take 3 years to recruit players to do that and by then, Volnation would want Chadwells head on a spike.

Butch’s running game worked very well here in 2014, 2015 and 2016.