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LA Vol said:
Yep, it's stop the bleeding time. If the decision had been reached to fire him, the solution would have been to fire him cleanly, pay the buyout and get a prime position in the coaching sweepstakes. Then handle the investigation separately and swiftly.

Outside counsel will make a recommendation based on final findings and probable outcomes. Pruitt's response and how far down the list they'll have to go will be factors. The only sure thing is UT has whacked a hornet's nest and now has to deal with the swarm.
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Probably implied in your response but once this whole mess became more and more public, the chances of anything being done cleanly went out the window.

As did our chances of a competent contingency plan for replacing Pruitt with anything resembling a quality replacement.
 
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MrVolton said:
I’m starting to think this whole $6¡7 show has more to do with squeezing Pruitt out over Fulmer’s objections than saving a buyout.
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Could be.
But I dont believe Fulmers objections would be enough even without the investigation. If the right people wanted it done based off the product it would be done.
 
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Arnold said as with making a great sword one is tempered by being heated then cooled then hammered then repeated. The strongest sword will go through those things and as that sword is great and strong so are we. We are the strongest most loyal fanbase in football. I think ya'll see the analogy. Have a blessed day and may the Vols overcome another smithing.
 
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LA Vol said:
Saban has absolute power and control over every inch of his program-- and a little bit beyond. Other schools, including UT, share authority up the chain, with the AD, Chancellor and President included in some aspects of decisionmaking.

IDK exactly what Napier would demand and what he would be willing to concede for a job he really wanted. But he's not Saban and he hasn't yet earned the right to demand absolute power and control. And he won't get it from many schools.
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Saban got bama to upgrade their baseball facilities because Jameis chose FSU over bama Bc their baseball is way better. He’s their real AD lol
 
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BeecherVol said:
IDK.
Hes averaged 8.5 over 8 seasons with this year being a 10 game conference schedule.

And he did that while playing in the west and drawing UGA every year.

I wouldn't call him a great hire but we ll probably end up with worse.
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My point is we know what Gus is and has been getting worse, which is why he was fired. I would rather go with a sitting head coach who has shown they can win. I don’t care if it’s Conference USA or sunbelt. A proven winner who would be hungry to prove their worth. We can give them everything they need to win, we need someone hungry and a winner. I would rather go for Leipold, Napier, or Chadwell than Gus. If they are even half way decent head coaches, they will win eight games a year here . But they could also be rockstars and bring us a championship. It’s worth the risk to me.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Could be.
But I dont believe Fulmers objections would be enough even without the investigation. If the right people wanted it done based off the product it would be done.
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I think Fulmer still has enough supporters where they can’t just run over his objections roughshod.

I’m convinced that it’s just like LA Vol said, if there had been a consensus on which way to, he would have been fired. I think this whole thing has resulted from someone trying to force that consensus, for better or worse.
 
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BeecherVol said:
That may be the case.

It also would surprise me to see scholarship reductions, bowl ban and probation either. History has shown the AA is not that cut a dry.

The issue going forward is not whether a sentence like that is going to hurt the guy currently coaching but the guy you re trying to hire behind him. The reality may end up being that guy starts deeper in the whole than the last 3 with a fanbase that longer has patience.

I dont know that its all that unpopular. There's no reason for fans to expect UT to hire off the top shelf. The investigation and what may come from that isn't going to help. Even if it results in UT keeping the buyout.
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Scholarship reductions would be bad, but not as bad as it was pre the 25 man signing class.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
My point is we know what Gus is and has been getting worse, which is why he was fired. I would rather go with a sitting head coach who has shown they can win. I don’t care if it’s Conference USA or sunbelt. A proven winner who would be hungry to prove their worth. We can give them everything they need to win, we need someone hungry and a winner. I would rather go for Leipold, Napier, or Chadwell than Gus. If they are even half way decent head coaches, they will win eight games a year here . But they could also be rockstars and bring us a championship. It’s worth the risk to me.
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Well, Napier over Gus for sure.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Probably implied in your response but once this whole mess became more and more public, the chances of anything being done cleanly went out the window.

As did our chances of a competent contingency plan for replacing Pruitt with anything resembling a quality replacement.
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Yep, the chance to handle everything quickly and cleanly has passed. Now we're in mitigation mode.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
I’ve been trying to say he is not as liked by players as many believe. The meltdown that is coming when one player is announced will be epic. Not even idiot Tennessee Studs could defend.
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Yeah Memphis Mitch is legit and has good info. Based off his emphasis that player is probably To’oto’o or Eric Gray or similar impact player.
 
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