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DeerPark12 said:
No closer to a decision than we were Friday. Investigation started out small, keeps getting bigger. Key to firing the head coach is if they show a connection that he directed his assistant coach to do all the stuff they keep finding and if so, can they fire him for it without putting anything in the termination that would give us major sanctions?

If they make a change, still little to zero change Freeze gets a call, but his agent will have the Dennis Dodds abs Bruce Feldmans of the world “reporting” he’s a front runner. Wasn’t true when they said it about SC and Auburn and it won’t be true with us.
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For the record, it does not have to be proven the head coach “directed” an assistant coach to break the rules. The only thing in his contract language is he can be fired for cause if he OR one of his assistants committed a Level I or Level II violation.

He can also be fired if he committed enough Level III to be the equivalent of a Level II.
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
I've come around to O'Brien. Really good offensive mind with some battle scars from his 2 seasons at PSU. He'd do just fine in Knoxville. Marrone would be a solid hire as well. As much as I would like Napier I just believe he stays put for at least 1 more season.
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Might as well scuttle
The program if it’s Marrone.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
For the record, it does not have to be proven the head coach “directed” an assistant coach to break the rules. The only thing in his contract language is he can be fired for cause if he OR one of his assistants committed a Level I or Level II violation.

He can also be fired if he committed enough Level III to be the equivalent of a Level II.
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Whatever it is they look bad and inept at this point. This will be spun as a witch hunt and Pruitt will end up looking like the victim. Pruitt not negotiating a buyout after all this crap tells me he is going out swinging.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
So you think I, an attorney in Atlanta, am actually a Twitter guy in Knoxville? That’s a good one.

For the record, I haven’t lived in Knoxville in almost four years.
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Side note- but I met the folks in charge of the Nike deal at a job. Spent the day with them- they had nice things to say about y’all.
 
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Devo182 said:
That's the concern - recruiting. And admin. And boosters. It's a different environment. He would literally need someone to teach him about recruiting, boatload of ncaa rules (how to cheat), dealing with 16-22 year olds, parents, etc.
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Judging by the way he handled VY, I don't think he'd do a great job dealing with diva college kids and diva college kid parents.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
How would you all feel if we hired Jeff Brohm?

For the sake of the discussion, would you feel differently if we were hiring him straight from WKU and Purdue were never on his resume?


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He was a better prospect before Purdue.

Purdue is far from a power house but its not like they are better today than they were when we hired Pruitt.

Before he went to Purdue you still had the question can his success translate at a higher level (like many that have climbed the latter).

Is terrible? No. Could he be better at UT than Purdue? Maybe. Has Purdue cemented the idea that he's going to continue to climb? Not yet.
 
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Headvol said:
Who would be your reasonable choice
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Napier I guess is my pick. They don't have the balls to go after the guys I want. Our admin doesn't care about winning like Bama and A&M...so we are doomed to either guys like Napier, Chadwell and Clark and a few other good small program coaches with high upsides that I would understand giving a chance to, or boring, low ceiling rejects with proven serious flaws like Mehlzahn, Marrone and Fisher etc. that I am convinced will finish off our long running program suicide ritual.

Guys in the middle of those extremes for me are dudes like Hermehn and O'Brien. I have extreme reservations about both for different reasons, but I wouldn't be totally out on them due to a few intriguing qualities they have...of these two my pick would probably be O'Brien simply because I saw him perform a miracle at Penn State...and we need a miracle.(This is not an endorsement of BO'B, I don't really want the guy at UT)
 
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Sadly I really am at the point where I feel like if we have to suffer so should they. And yes, part of me could summon that evil grin knowing that while we are still a dumpster fire they’re at least sharing the pain. I just don’t believe they will hire anyone but Schiano McGoogle the III.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
The majority of our fan base would. Which is why we won't hire him. I'd still rather have Kiffin back.
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Kiffin is bright enough but Freeze has at least taken down the king more than once. I just think Kiffin comes with even more internal and external resistance than Freeze. I’d be happy with either at this point tho. At least, we’d lose scoring.
 
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UTProf said:
Kiffin is bright enough but Freeze has at least taken down the king more than once. I just think Kiffin comes with even more internal and external resistance than Freeze. I’d be happy with either at this point tho. At least, we’d lose scoring.
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It won't be either of those guys.

I'm still not 100% certain Pruitt is fired. Heck at this point I wouldn't be surprised at anything that happens...that is unless we actually fire him make a decent hire, then I'd be shocked.
 
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HankHill said:
The streets are talking. Pruitt is done here. May be sitting at home and thinking about it for a year or two.
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That sucks..we should have just thanked him for trying, then fired the man, paid him the money we agreed to, and then sent him back to Saban.

"This is not the way" and it sickens me.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
Again. Agree to disagree. Not gonna argue.
Don't want Napier. Don't want Chadwell.

Don't want Marrone or Gus but I'd take either of them over an up and comer. Done with going that route.
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So...you'd take proven failures that doomed to mediocrity over rolling the dice on a guy with a high ceiling that you don't know what will happen?

I am for keeping on rolling the dice on the good coaches from small programs until we get lucky over hiring boring proven failure rejects that will give us no hope for anything but mediocrity and probably take us no where but down.
 
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