Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[HankHill]

Okay

Seriously tho. The dude is a grinder by nature. You don’t make it to the NFL as a player and not be.

 

[PolkVol]

I mean I would be fine with any on the list. I'd be more excited for others, but I'd be behind these hires because they feel like an obvious upgrade:

Freeze
Napier
Fickell
Herman
Gus
O'Brien
Marrone

Feel like Fulmer would meddle too much, if the hire is a young up and comer..Which sucks cause I like Napier too.

 

[4chrissy]

Pulled this from VQ from a guy who is quoting the athletic. We have everything that we need to be successful except a good HC. There is nothing holding us back except that. We have everything at TN that every other top team has.

Much of this pulled from the outstanding article in The Athletic by David Ubben found here: https://theathletic.com/2303984/202...y-pruitt-football/?source=user_shared_article
Bottom line: Tennessee is in the top 5 in the nation for commitment level but nowhere near there in terms of results and return on the investment.

• Pruitt requested and received a third full-length practice field for the complex ~$667,000
• Pruitt/Fitzgerald received ~$660,000 to renovate the weight room
• Tennessee has been 1 of only 5 schools in the country with two $1 million coordinators
• In 2020, Tennessee's assistant coaching pool ranked 8th in country in total $ spent
• Tennessee's total football staff has increased from 48 to 71 people since Pruitt got here
• Tennessee had more than $58 million in football expenses in 2018 and more than $51 million in 2017, according to the most recent data from the Knight Commission. In both years, Alabama was the only FBS program with higher expenses.

Putting aside 45-5 in the 90s, putting aside 102,455 showing up every Saturday, putting aside General Neyland, Johnny Majors and the rich history of football success on the Hill ....
These commitment figures are why Taxslayer Bowl wins are not enough.
These commitment figures are why losses to Georgia State, BYU, Kentucky, Arkansas are unacceptable.
These commitment figures are why 3-7 in year 3 should cost you your job.

No one should say that our administration doesn't care or isn't bought in. We are. They are giving the money. They just need to make a good hire. Billy Napier wants exactly what is written above. He wants to be able to have the resources he needs to win. We'll give him that and he will win. Or someone like that. We should be able to hire whoever we want.

If this is all true, we don’t have money for a new coach because Pruitt spent all of our money.

 

[m1al]

I personally thought Herm was a good hire for AZ St. his personality fits well in college game and people love to play for and work with Herm. I didn’t understand when people laughed at that hire.

Always like Herm.. Seems like a straight shooter, intense, good sense of humor and all around good and decent man.

 

[Geronimo]

Did you see our Defense this year?

Haha. I honestly am just throwing crap against the wall.

 

[HankHill]

If this is all true, we don’t have money for a new coach because Pruitt spent all of our money.

We have money. We always have money. It’s never truly an issue unless all of our boosters and their immediate families died on the same plane all at once.

 

[gordonr24]

At this point, it feels like it’s just a matter of when the news breaks on Pruitt being relieved of his duties.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Need you to start rowing the boat. At least ahead of dumbass O’brien.

I could roll with Fleck

 

[4chrissy]

We have money. We always have money. It’s never truly an issue unless all of our boosters and their immediate families died on the same plane all at once.

Somebody needs to pony up then and quit poor mouthing.

 

[90 Vol]

Finally read the ESPN article from this morning. What a joke.... "A handful of Tennessee's best players have left the program" and "star defensive end Deandre Johnson transferred to Miami". Why does every article about everything now have to be embellished?

I think it's actually accurate in context. "Our" best players may not necessarily be good, just Tennessee's best.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You are confusing what freedom is..... freedom just means he won’t go to jail for his expression..... he did this on a verified account representing UTC..... people have the freedom to condemn and the school has the freedom to go in a different direction.... I have to be careful working in healthcare as well..... I have deleted several posts after initially typing bc they could look bad on myself or profession.

Being fired for saying something that a few assholes don't like and get pissy about is discrimination...period. That is not freedom, it is mob rule.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Not hugely excited about Marrone but if he is a stable, adult CEO type with a dynamic OC (Yurcich, etc) and DC it could be a good, stabilizing hire. Would need help in recruiting probably.

Yes this could absolutely work. You win and you will recruit just fine

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I mean there’s literally a dozen coaches out there that would basically immediate have us at 8-4 year every year. It’s going to be really hard to bomb this hire lol

This is Tennessee its not that hard

 

[Dudley Smith]

There is literally not one thing they have in common other than fleck uses a motto. Fleck is much more like urban meyer. Runs his programs the same way.

I'm not opposed to Fleck, but haven't seen his name mentioned much in any of the recent coaching searches. Why do you think that is?

 

[Johncarter53]

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

I like Marrone. You wont win over all the fan base at the time of announcement with it, but I think it would be a very solid hire in the long run. I think more people are coming around to this too.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Whatever they do after Pruitt, it's got to be right......................................this whole thing isn't gonna take much more abuse.

This has to be the end. Whoever they hire we can't end up back here in 2024. This needs to be it.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Bob Stoops would be calls 1-10 for me.
As a matter of fact, I would be on call 100 by now.

We should be making him a Jimbo offer..we should make him turn down the Powerball winning ticket. He has the gravitas to fix this mess, and he would be worth every penny of it in the long run.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Feel like Fulmer would meddle too much, if the hire is a young up and comer..Which sucks cause I like Napier too.

You may be right. Napier wouldn't come here if he felt Fulmer would do that. Fulmer would have to back off and be a normal AD for that to work

 

[Geronimo]

This has to be the end. Whoever they hire we can't end up back here in 2024. This needs to be it.

I don’t know, it’s kind of a family tradition around here.
It’s like leap year but only 3 years instead of four.

 

[SugarCC]

Will Chris Petersen coach again? The door isn't shut, but not right away



If he got burned out at Washington with its work load, he'd die here... with that being said, if he's rekindled the fire, he's the best coach on the market outside of maybe Urban

Urban and Peterson would be my first two calls; and both would have to turn down being the highest paid coach in college football history.

I could give a sh!t less about keeping up with UGA or UF. If we want to catch back up with Bama, this is what we do.

 

[yourstruly23]

I hate Trey Wallace

 

[Vols4us]

I can't read the posts fast enough to gain ground. Take a lap, people!

 

[SSVol]

Being fired for saying something that a few assholes don't like and get pissy about is discrimination...period. That is not freedom, it is mob rule.

From my perspective as an employer, it speaks to (lack of) judgment. I don't want people representing me or my company who are that stupid.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I could roll with Fleck

No