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05_never_again said:
Good God, this "4 to 5 year rebuild" stuff makes me sick. It's only a 4-5 year rebuild if we were recruiting 50th in the country for the last several years.

This school has a coaching and an administration problem.
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Tell the same lie over and over and eventually people start to believe it..

Politics 101
 
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give_him 6 said:
No, I have had my fill here at UT. Two is enough for me. Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma all seem to have done fine without tapping into Saban. Its very similar in the NFL. For many years, people tried to tap into the New England Patriots' success. Time and time again, its not really worked out. Jury is still out on Miami's Flores.
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If the dude has proven that he can do it on his own, without Saban, I don't care if he worked under Saban.

There aren't many Saban disciples who have gone on their own and been successful, so I'm totally leery of hiring someone like Napier, or any "prove it" coach at this point. We need a proven P5 coach.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I think most of us want change, but some of us are making a mockery of how this is all playing out exactly like the Gruden thing. People coming out of the woodwork pretending to have detailed conversations with the AD (or someone close to them). Posters posting random emojis. Posters getting sucked in so ridiculously.

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Yeah I think there's a bit of mockery on both sides of it at this point. Which is fine. This is all just classic message board stuff. Gruden was always a longshot. Some people had fun dreaming about the possibilities. Some people took it too far.

Freeze seems way more reasonable to me this time around even if it's still a long shot. He actually wants to be an SEC coach, unlike Gruden. He will likely get his shot eventually somewhere. Maybe it's early and ideally you would wait until other schools are in hot pursuit but are we in a position to be so picky? Both sides feel like they could greatly benefit from coming together. Makes too much sense.
 
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UTProf said:
Everyone that follows cfb knows Pruitt needs to be fired. It makes far less sense that he’s still here.
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But everyone who reads actual news and not message boards knows that he hasn’t been fired and there is no vacancy. He’s only been fired on this board and TOS.
 
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05_never_again said:
If the dude has proven that he can do it on his own, without Saban, I don't care if he worked under Saban.

There aren't many Saban disciples who have gone on their own and been successful, so I'm totally leery of hiring someone like Napier, or any "prove it" coach at this point. We need a proven P5 coach.
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Agree with your point on Napier. I cringe when people lump Sark into the successful category. He is 46–35 as a HC (all at P5 schools), which is above average. Jimbo Fisher is 108–33. I would definitely put Fisher in the successful camp.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Lmao one season they didn’t lose 8+ since 2000..... congrats?
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You are obviously a young follower of SEC football. Im not going to continue to go back and forth, but I will remind you of your argument "rebuilds don't take 4-5 years" and then give me Mullen as an example. He goes 5-7, 9-4, 7-6 in his first 3. Would you accept this job of rebuild by Pruitt?
 
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Someone remind me... in the past here, do national media guys usually break coaching changes or do the VQ/247 guys
 
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