Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Kingston Vol]

right decision or not.....that's not the issue....i've said this a dozen times...deciding to fire pruitt is the easiest part of the whole deal. there's nothing he's done that says you absolutely have to bring him back and nobody...NOBODY...would be shocked/surprised if we fired him.

that, however, doesn't mean "we win" as a result. if history teaches us anything, we either stay the same, or go backwards with the hire.

so, if that's the case, and you don't like the pool that's out there right now.....why do anything if it doesn't IMPROVE the program?

in cases like this, addition by subtraction may not apply......it certainly hasn't the past 10 years.

I don't mean to suggest it is simple "addition by subtraction." When you know an employee isn't working out, you don't wait to fire them because you're afraid you won't find something better.

We've made four coaching hires in the last decade - I would argue two of them were bad and two were good. Dooley and Pruitt have had zero redeeming qualities. Kiffin was EVERYTHING we wanted. Butch was on the precipice of consistent success and had two rosters as good as anything we've seen here since 2001. And besides Kiffin, none of those guys were at the top of our lists. That means we're scraping the bottom of the barrel and still batting .500.

I don't mean to be "that guy", but I have some contacts in the coaching community. Billy Napier and Jamey Chadwell are very good coaches who we can hire tomorrow if we want. Jeff Brohm, Neal Brown and Scott Satterfield can all be had - they are all unhappy at their current jobs. There are a handful of assistants we could try that make more sense than keeping Jeremy Pruitt and letting him run out the clock.

If we don't swing this year we will regret it. You know it and I know it. Because in 10 months, when we're having this conversation again after we go 5-7, we won't suddenly be more competent and the coaching pool won't suddenly be better. You're either a year early or a year late - which one will we be?

 

[UTK]

meh. Josh Dobbs >>>>>>> JG.....

Sure. Obviously. But at least Butch after a certain point was smart enough to play Dobbs. And obviously got him to come to UT.

 

[drvenner]

lol I did it when I wanted Butch fired

Keep doing it, please.

 

[Dudleys87]

Hey I think Sark could get us a consistent 7-5, other than that

In b4 no more bammers
And that’s no different than Malzahn

 

[***RoadVol***]

I have cold symptoms with right elbow inflammation. No fever

That is so odd. I tested positive about 10 days ago. I have had no symptoms at all but my right elbow has been killing me.

 

[UTK]

By all means, if y'all want Freeze, better gather in the hundreds with the signs and stuff right now. They will move quickly through the "search"

 

[jakez4ut]

Sure. Obviously. But at least Butch after a certain point was smart enough to play Dobbs. And obviously got him to come to UT.

yeah, when he had no other choice and had to put him in b/c everybody else was disabled due to injury. that wasn't a case of supreme personnel decision making lol.

 

[Dudleys87]

Have we not suffered enough!?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

He would be fine. Washington was 11-37 the 4 years before he went there. 0-12 the season before his first. He recruited all those draft picks they had like Truffant, Marcus Peters, Danny Shelton, Seferian-Jenkin, and Shaq Thompson.

He would still be at USC if not for the alcohol IMO.

 

[Cactus Jack]

man it's gonna be just a brutal 8-9 more months with this HC. Poor recruiting. 5-6 new staff members who we either overpay or underwhelmingly hire. lose to pittsburgh, beat the bye teams we play, then pruitt gets fired after Lane hangs 50 on him in Neyland. The venom and vitriol within the fan base is just gonna be awful and Tennessee will be a laughing stock once again. Do our admins and AD just have no shame? No pride in their once proud program? I would have never thought in a million years that Fulmer would have allowed it to get like this without making a HC change.

 

[UTK]

yeah, when he had no other choice and had to put him in b/c everybody else was disabled due to injury. that wasn't a case of supreme personnel decision making lol.

Point still stands he got a QB worth a damn to come here. That alone makes him better as of right now lol

 

[Dudleys87]

By all means, if y'all want Freeze, better gather in the hundreds with the signs and stuff right now. They will move quickly through the "search"

If he’s fired then they left themselves with no choice, again.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Sark has been at the top of my list for awhile tbh. He was proven prior to going to sabans school of rehabilitated coaches who don’t coach so well, and seems to have his sh1t together now.

 

[UTK]

man it's gonna be just a brutal 8-9 more months with this HC. Poor recruiting. 5-6 new staff members who we either overpay or underwhelmingly hire. lose to pittsburgh, beat the bye teams we play, then pruitt gets fired after Lane hangs 50 on him in Neyland. The venom and vitriol within the fan base is just gonna be awful and Tennessee will be a laughing stock once again. Do our admins and AD just have no shame? No pride in their once proud program? I would have never thought in a million years that Fulmer would have allowed it to get like this without making a HC change.

How'd 2-6 hours turn into months. Jeez dude. Calm down

 

[Dudleys87]

Point still stands he got a QB worth a damn to come here. That alone makes him better as of right now lol

I’ll bet he came here for aerospace. Football was just a bonus

 

[Volfanatic_20]

He would still be at USC if not for the alcohol IMO.

Yep. Way better coach than Clay Helton.

 

[BigOrangeGoose]

 

[vol4eva]

That is so odd. I tested positive about 10 days ago. I have had no symptoms at all but my right elbow has been killing me.

That’s wild, my elbow was killing me, red, and hot to the touch. Mine is still sore, but better than it was.

 

[volbeast33]

I would love for Tee to get a HC job at a G5 or lower level, be wildly successful for a few years and come back to UT to take over the reins as a proven HC.

That would be awesome

 

[volinbama256]

 

[Dudleys87]

He would still be at USC if not for the alcohol IMO.

I’d rather not try another Bama assistant.

 

[Blake25p]

So we hiring Sark now?

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

At least a guy like Sarkisian would provide quality QB play. Recruiting would also be a strong. I'd take him over Napier at this point.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

It’s about time we left the SEC. We clearly don’t care about winning football anymore.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

So we hiring Sark now?

Don't jump the Sark.