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Kingston Vol said:
Yes, to me, the worst part about it is another year non-competitive in the grand scheme with a greater than 50% chance it gets blown up in November regardless.

I don't really have anything personal against Pruitt - although the "I can go back to Alabama anytime" stuff that Brent Hubbs and Steven Godfrey have reported certainly has irritated me. But if he turned it around here, I'd have no problem getting back on board. I just don't see a realistic path forward.

Basically, if they bring him back it feels like delaying the inevitable - and worse than that, it means a wasted 2021 season. And that sucks.
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I dislike that he coached the lowest single season winning total team since 1924.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
He did it when he was hired at his opening press conference. I was ready to through a brick wall for the guy. If he's gonna stay he's gotta find that mindset again.
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IMO...that was because after years of the Butch sales speak, it was somewhat refreshing to hear something "different".

I get it tho...I felt the same way. I could POSSIBLY get on board with it if our saw our program trending in the right direction. But we see how that's going, so that type of "speak" is wearing thin.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Well, I’m a Tennessee fan. And a homer at that.

I’d love a coaching change if I had any confidence we’d hire someone worth a ****. I’m not in the “aNyOnE bUt PrUiTt” bandwagon.

I think Freeze is incredibly flawed, weird, overrated, and a pipe dream.

If you told me we were hiring Kiffin or Napier, I’d be stoked. But our luck we’d move on from Pruitt and hire Steele or some other meh coach.

Basically it’s a quarterbacks game. If you have a QB, you can win.

That is what turned Clemson around.

For all the back to back to back top 3 classes uga has assembled, they were still a three loss team (including blowout losses) because of bad QB play.

Arkansas had a good year because Frank’s had his best season.

It’s not a coincidence that year in/year out the best teams in college and the NFL are the teams with quality QB play.

Look at all our bad losses - who played like ****: the QB. JG played like ass vs Ga State/BYU/Kentucky, every time we played the big three. Horrible pick six vs Auburn etc.

He’s gone. I’m curious what CJP can do with Bailey.

And we need linebackers who can cover.

And a guy who can provide pressure off the edge.

The people acting like “we’ll be lucky to win 6 games” or who otherwise are all doom and gloom are the same people who were declaring it Pruitt Era and calling him their coach just a year ago. Fickle knee jerk fans.

We’ll see what happens.

But I’m of the belief that if Bailey, Salter, and hopefully Martin can provide some stability at the QB position, a coach like Pruitt can find success here and end the past 15 years of dysfunction.

I think Lane could win a NC here.

Napier could be good too.

But yeah, that’s round about my stance on things.
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Thanks--- so Kiffin and Napier would be good hires in your opinion... I think both would do well here... The only thing I'd debate is, yes a good QB makes a tremendous difference in the overall success of the program, But our Defense right now is horrible... and that may be what worries me most about JP not being the guy... He's a Defensive Coordinator and our Defense should shine by now, but it actually has regressed... and the supposed great recruiter can't get or develop 2-3 true high tier LB's.... we have 2 former RB's at that position in year 3... So he's not even excelling in his supposed specialty department...
 
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CoachClick said:
This is not his strength. Every time the guy opens his mouth, it just puts people off.

I'm still trying to figure out what his "strength" is tbh.
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Not sure that's completely true. He won me over with his first speech when I had no intention of supporting an Alabama coach and player from AL.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
Not sure that's completely true. He won me over with his first speech when I had no intention of supporting an Alabama coach and player from AL.
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Not hard to win a hungry fanbase over after ditching Butch Jones, let's be real.


I could walk across that stage and say, "I'm better than Butch, let's fn go" 90% of the fanbase would run thru a brick wall, why? because we have been **** for 15 years.
 
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volinbama256 said:
The thing I don't get is everyone is talking about our offense being so outdated, which I agree with and a good QB is not going to change things too dramatically unless the offensive system is different--- but no one seems to really be talking about our Defense... This is supposed to be JP's strength, and it looked pathetic in year 3... So what exactly has he done right in any area to improve the program in 3 years?
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I don’t understand the identity of this team does it even have one other than just being terrible? Hell even special teams is below average..
 
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If we get to Friday and he’s still here he’s not getting fired. I hope bob Vols is right that he will be fired. He’s coming off quarantine now.

If he’s still here Friday and the university hasn’t come out and backed him then they are completely clueless
 
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jakez4ut said:
i've already stated my opinion on pruitt and what i think should happen.

but one streak is fools gold, the other CAN'T be? we can come up with all the reasons under the sun why that win streak didn't matter, and explain it away as not meaningful.

but we can't come up with any legitimate reasons on how/why we lost this year, o/t pruitt sucks at everything? really? like it or not, there are actual, legitimate reasons that we lost. there were a bevvy of issues that affected this team and how it was UNABLE to develop the way pruitt and the staff wanted/intended it to.

people fit facts to fit their narrative. the sooner folks realize that, and decide for themselves, the better. i've seen things twisted around the past two weeks that were things he was praised for just a few months ago, that now are reasons he should be fired.

if you have to make stuff up to support firing pruitt, then your case isn't very strong.

the reality is, NOTHING needs to be embellished here. there's nothing you need to make up or twist around to come to the conclusion that he should probably be fired.

siap the easiest thing we could do here is fire jeremy pruitt. and it requires ZERO revisionist history to get there.
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The financial situation alone made his termination unlikely. Add too it the embarrassing coaching search last time the university isn’t in a hurry to repeat.
Once I started looking at the situation from a point of view that was trying to justify not changing coaches, it becomes pretty clear that CJP isn’t being fired even though I think he should be and is unlikely to be successful in the future
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Not hard to win a hungry fanbase over after ditching Butch Jones, let's be real.


I could walk across that stage and say, "I'm better than Butch, let's fn go" 90% of the fanbase would run thru a brick wall, why? because we have been **** for 15 years.
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You are right. But I do believe that speech was a little more than that. I went from "fine he's better than Steele" to being all in. Just a shame that we havent really seen anything like it since.

If he wants this job I feel like the Tennessee family deserves to be addressed. Convince us again. Cause right now we don't believe in you.
 
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So can someone point out ONE SINGLE THING that Pruitt has done well, developed, or improved on every year he's been here to now year 3?


If not, then how can you realistically think he'll do anything different in year 4 or 5? Hell, he's the one who kept the 3rd string QB in all season.
 
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Girth Brooks said:
What will be done inevitably must be done immediately.

The “path” argument is another obstruction to restoration. No coach worth his salt will come here without favorable terms, as you alluded to. So if we’re going to have sunk capital either way, it seems much more prudent to give someone else a shot instead of a guy who has had turnover-at least once-at every position on his staff. Why throw good money after bad when we know Pruitt is not the longterm solution? That’s Accounting/Finance 101.

Either we want to win games and pack the coffers, or we don’t. The rest of it is message board fodder for the lemmings who’re not satiated until a 🦾/⚙️/💣/👀 is dropped.
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I've said several times that I'm a "cut your losses" person, so you're not going to get a theoretical argument from me. But from a practical standpoint, there is unquestionably a path forward with or without Pruitt and solid support for both of them. Otherwise, he would be gone.
 
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What will everyone who has said they aren’t supporting the program next year because of who the head coach is going to do if we win 9+ games? Bet that stadium is still packed and tv ratings are all time highs.
 
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