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HoleInTheRoof said:
Well, I’m a Tennessee fan. And a homer at that.

I’d love a coaching change if I had any confidence we’d hire someone worth a ****. I’m not in the “aNyOnE bUt PrUiTt” bandwagon.

I think Freeze is incredibly flawed, weird, overrated, and a pipe dream.

If you told me we were hiring Kiffin or Napier, I’d be stoked. But our luck we’d move on from Pruitt and hire Steele or some other meh coach.

Basically it’s a quarterbacks game. If you have a QB, you can win.

That is what turned Clemson around.

For all the back to back to back top 3 classes uga has assembled, they were still a three loss team (including blowout losses) because of bad QB play.

Arkansas had a good year because Frank’s had his best season.

It’s not a coincidence that year in/year out the best teams in college and the NFL are the teams with quality QB play.

Look at all our bad losses - who played like ****: the QB. JG played like ass vs Ga State/BYU/Kentucky, every time we played the big three. Horrible pick six vs Auburn etc.

He’s gone. I’m curious what CJP can do with Bailey.

And we need linebackers who can cover.

And a guy who can provide pressure off the edge.

The people acting like “we’ll be lucky to win 6 games” or who otherwise are all doom and gloom are the same people who were declaring it Pruitt Era and calling him their coach just a year ago. Fickle knee jerk fans.

We’ll see what happens.

But I’m of the belief that if Bailey, Salter, and hopefully Martin can provide some stability at the QB position, a coach like Pruitt can find success here and end the past 15 years of dysfunction.

I think Lane could win a NC here.

Napier could be good too.

But yeah, that’s round about my stance on things.
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I have saw 3 seasons of pruitt as a head coach. He isn't good at his job.
 
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JAllen18 said:
I consider Fulmer to be a top HC. As an AD, everyone in the AD has faith in him and has handed him the keys to bring UT back to powerhouse. But I think he's let his ego take over. He wants to prove to everyone that he's the right guy and he can "mentor" Pruitt along. He listened to the fanbase in 08 for a new exciting offense and that backfired on him.
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Offense and defense the past three years have been middle of the pack or worse I mean at least when Dooley/Butch/Kiffen was here we saw a good but not great offense but with Pruitt we are terrible in both aspects. Im not sure how anybody with sound reason thinks that it’ll be turned around in the fourth year with the same system in place
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Correct.

Being a great recruiter or a bad recruiter won’t make a difference if he can’t coach or develop the talent he was right now.
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Agree, that was my point. He will get a lot of kids interested because they seem to like him and he can sell what he is trying to do. Then, they will see how crappy we are on the field and decide here is not where they want to be.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I’ve heard that too. Some people on here that know stuff says it’s true, others do not. This whole things seems like one big damn mess. I really hope that Phil isn’t the issue, but if he is then it’s time for everyone to get on the same page and move on to the next chapter.
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Losing magnifies everything. If we were winning whatever is happening would not seem so bad. We're losing so it is a mess.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Well, I’m a Tennessee fan. And a homer at that.

I’d love a coaching change if I had any confidence we’d hire someone worth a ****. I’m not in the “aNyOnE bUt PrUiTt” bandwagon.

I think Freeze is incredibly flawed, weird, overrated, and a pipe dream.

If you told me we were hiring Kiffin or Napier, I’d be stoked. But our luck we’d move on from Pruitt and hire Steele or some other meh coach.

Basically it’s a quarterbacks game. If you have a QB, you can win.

That is what turned Clemson around.

For all the back to back to back top 3 classes uga has assembled, they were still a three loss team (including blowout losses) because of bad QB play.

Arkansas had a good year because Frank’s had his best season.

It’s not a coincidence that year in/year out the best teams in college and the NFL are the teams with quality QB play.

Look at all our bad losses - who played like ****: the QB. JG played like ass vs Ga State/BYU/Kentucky, every time we played the big three. Horrible pick six vs Auburn etc.

He’s gone. I’m curious what CJP can do with Bailey.

And we need linebackers who can cover.

And a guy who can provide pressure off the edge.

The people acting like “we’ll be lucky to win 6 games” or who otherwise are all doom and gloom are the same people who were declaring it Pruitt Era and calling him their coach just a year ago. Fickle knee jerk fans.

We’ll see what happens.

But I’m of the belief that if Bailey, Salter, and hopefully Martin can provide some stability at the QB position, a coach like Pruitt can find success here and end the past 15 years of dysfunction.

I think Lane could win a NC here.

Napier could be good too.

But yeah, that’s round about my stance on things.
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It is absolutely not a QB game it is an offensive philosophy game...the QB is just one aspect of it. We are failing because our system is archaic how do our fans not see this? Either watch good offensive teams or continue living under a rock, otherwise quit posting this crap on the RF forum and go to the FF
 
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CoachClick said:
This is not his strength. Every time the guy opens his mouth, it just puts people off.

I'm still trying to figure out what his "strength" is tbh.
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He did it when he was hired at his opening press conference. I was ready to run through a brick wall for the guy. If he's gonna stay he's gotta find that mindset again.
 
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shocker said:
It is absolutely not a QB game it is an offensive philosophy game...the QB is just one aspect of it. We are failing because our system is archaic how do our fans not see this? Either watch good offensive teams or continue living under a rock, otherwise quit posting this crap on the RF forum and go to the FF
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You don’t have the like to post ratio necessary to take this tone with me, peasant.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Well, I’m a Tennessee fan. And a homer at that.

I’d love a coaching change if I had any confidence we’d hire someone worth a ****. I’m not in the “aNyOnE bUt PrUiTt” bandwagon.

I think Freeze is incredibly flawed, weird, overrated, and a pipe dream.

If you told me we were hiring Kiffin or Napier, I’d be stoked. But our luck we’d move on from Pruitt and hire Steele or some other meh coach.

Basically it’s a quarterbacks game. If you have a QB, you can win.

That is what turned Clemson around.

For all the back to back to back top 3 classes uga has assembled, they were still a three loss team (including blowout losses) because of bad QB play.

Arkansas had a good year because Frank’s had his best season.

It’s not a coincidence that year in/year out the best teams in college and the NFL are the teams with quality QB play.

Look at all our bad losses - who played like ****: the QB. JG played like ass vs Ga State/BYU/Kentucky, every time we played the big three. Horrible pick six vs Auburn etc.

He’s gone. I’m curious what CJP can do with Bailey.

And we need linebackers who can cover.

And a guy who can provide pressure off the edge.

The people acting like “we’ll be lucky to win 6 games” or who otherwise are all doom and gloom are the same people who were declaring it Pruitt Era and calling him their coach just a year ago. Fickle knee jerk fans.

We’ll see what happens.

But I’m of the belief that if Bailey, Salter, and hopefully Martin can provide some stability at the QB position, a coach like Pruitt can find success here and end the past 15 years of dysfunction.

I think Lane could win a NC here.

Napier could be good too.

But yeah, that’s round about my stance on things.
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Are they suddenly going to be better at hiring coaches next year or the year after that? As soon as you know a coach is not the one, a change must be made, otherwise you are wasting time.


We need an HC that knows how to develop a QB, not just land on one like a blind squirrel finding a nut. People give Mullen h377 on here, but he knows how to do this. Trask was a Heisman candidate this year, but he would have made absolutely no waves if he had been stuck with this UT coaching staff. Sarkisian, Neal Brown, and Napier are all QB guys. Bring one of them in as HC, and let’s ride.
 
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drvenner said:
Coach Pruitt is a great recruiter. He will generate a lot buzz this Spring and Summer and we will make the final 5 or final 3 of some great prospects. Then, Fall will roll around and we will start playing football games and everybody will bail. It will be very ugly next Fall and offseason because our class will be bad and we will be looking for a coach. It's just sad and lame.
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Yes, to me, the worst part about it is another year non-competitive in the grand scheme with a greater than 50% chance it gets blown up in November regardless.

I don't really have anything personal against Pruitt - although the "I can go back to Alabama anytime" stuff that Brent Hubbs and Steven Godfrey have reported certainly has irritated me. But if he turned it around here, I'd have no problem getting back on board. I just don't see a realistic path forward.

Basically, if they bring him back it feels like delaying the inevitable - and worse than that, it means a wasted 2021 season. And that sucks.
 
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shocker said:
The argument we will have Harrison Bailey as our QB next year is great but please understand that our offensive system is outdated and was figured out years ago and our offensive line won’t give him hardly any time in the pocket...have fun with 5 wins next year though if we keep Pruitt
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The thing I don't get is everyone is talking about our offense being so outdated, which I agree with and a good QB is not going to change things too dramatically unless the offensive system is different--- but no one seems to really be talking about our Defense... This is supposed to be JP's strength, and it looked pathetic in year 3... So what exactly has he done right in any area to improve the program in 3 years?
 
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LA Vol said:
Actually, Pruitt has internal support and booster support, and there's money behind him as well as against him. And plenty of assistant coaches will come to UT for the right terms. Any agent is going to demand favorable terms for any new staffers under any HC at UT. That's the position we're in.

None of which means I'm advocating for Pruitt in any way. But there is a path forward with or without him.
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What will be done inevitably must be done immediately.

The “path” argument is another obstruction to restoration. No coach worth his salt will come here without favorable terms, as you alluded to. So if we’re going to have sunk capital either way, it seems much more prudent to give someone else a shot instead of a guy who has had turnover-at least once-at every position on his staff. Why throw good money after bad when we know Pruitt is not the longterm solution? That’s Accounting/Finance 101.

Either we want to win games and pack the coffers, or we don’t. The rest of it is message board fodder for the lemmings who’re not satiated until a 🦾/⚙️/💣/👀 is dropped.
 
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