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"Update from my source (the one who told me on Friday that Gus was definitely let go): Oregon ponied up to retain Cristobal, so he's apparently a not coming to Auburn. Our folks don't want the baggage that comes with Freeze, so they're passing on him. They were seriously considering Chip Lindsey, but he's apparently going through some personal issues, so they are passing on him. Our folks were also considering Steve Sarkisian, but they're apparently passing on him as well. Lane Kiffin is under consideration and so is Mike Gundy.

Long story short, my source says that there is no real direction, and there isn't anyone already in place. Source says that this is shaping up to possibly be a bit of a mess.

Side note, my source also said that Gouge and Greene both wanted to keep Gus, but the donors flat out told them they would not contribute another dime until Gus was gone. Basically ham-stringed the president and AD to get rid of Gus.

Source also said a coach from ND is going to Vandy, so Gus is not. Said Gus is now considering Arizona State."
This sounds all to familiar... and exactly why UT needs a plan before we do anything. We can’t afford another mess like last search. You better land one of your top 3 coaches if not already have someone in the fold before you do anything. I’d rather keep Pruitt another year than go into a messy coaching search again.
 
Your current school loves you only as long as you're winning, and winning (for the most part) has a tendency to increase expectations, even if the school isn't used to being successful. If Campbell started regressing and had a couple bad years, there's no doubt he'd be on the hot seat.

That's true, but he knows what he has coming in or coming back. Some coaches jump to new schools to get reset themselves for a new contract knowing that a year or two more at their current spot could get them fired. Matt Campbell is good enough that he could find a new gig if he felt like ISU was becoming disappointed with his results.

The grass is just not always greener. Gregg Marshall was an example in basketball, but his own behavior messed that up. He was getting paid handsomely, his kids loved being there, and he turned down job after job.
 
Update from the same board lol


"Update from my source (the one who told me on Friday that Gus was definitely let go): Oregon ponied up to retain Cristobal, so he's apparently a not coming to Auburn. Our folks don't want the baggage that comes with Freeze, so they're passing on him. They were seriously considering Chip Lindsey, but he's apparently going through some personal issues, so they are passing on him. Our folks were also considering Steve Sarkisian, but they're apparently passing on him as well. Lane Kiffin is under consideration and so is Mike Gundy.

Long story short, my source says that there is no real direction, and there isn't anyone already in place. Source says that this is shaping up to possibly be a bit of a mess.

Side note, my source also said that Gouge and Greene both wanted to keep Gus, but the donors flat out told them they would not contribute another dime until Gus was gone. Basically ham-stringed the president and AD to get rid of Gus.

Source also said a coach from ND is going to Vandy, so Gus is not. Said Gus is now considering Arizona State."
Oregon has that Phil Knight Nike money.

lol at Mike Gundy. Is he aiming for another raise? :)
 
Update from the same board lol


"Update from my source (the one who told me on Friday that Gus was definitely let go): Oregon ponied up to retain Cristobal, so he's apparently a not coming to Auburn. Our folks don't want the baggage that comes with Freeze, so they're passing on him. They were seriously considering Chip Lindsey, but he's apparently going through some personal issues, so they are passing on him. Our folks were also considering Steve Sarkisian, but they're apparently passing on him as well. Lane Kiffin is under consideration and so is Mike Gundy.

Long story short, my source says that there is no real direction, and there isn't anyone already in place. Source says that this is shaping up to possibly be a bit of a mess.

Side note, my source also said that Gouge and Greene both wanted to keep Gus, but the donors flat out told them they would not contribute another dime until Gus was gone. Basically ham-stringed the president and AD to get rid of Gus.

Source also said a coach from ND is going to Vandy, so Gus is not. Said Gus is now considering Arizona State."

Arizona. Not AZ St.
 
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That's true, but he knows what he has coming in or coming back. Some coaches jump to new schools to get reset themselves for a new contract knowing that a year or two more at their current spot could get them fired. Matt Campbell is good enough that he could find a new gig if he felt like ISU was becoming disappointed with his results.

The grass is just not always greener. Gregg Marshall was an example in basketball, but his own behavior messed that up. He was getting paid handsomely, his kids loved being there, and he turned down job after job.
The grass is not always greener, to be sure. In fact, I would say more often than not the grass isn't greener. But I think the "rules" you're talking about apply more in the real world when generational, life-changing money isn't thrown around and the raises usually aren't as substantial.

If I'm an accountant making $100k a year, I might not take a job offering to give me a 25% pay bump but would require me to move, would involve more hours, would likely be more stressful, etc.
 
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Update from the same board lol


"Update from my source (the one who told me on Friday that Gus was definitely let go): Oregon ponied up to retain Cristobal, so he's apparently a not coming to Auburn. Our folks don't want the baggage that comes with Freeze, so they're passing on him. They were seriously considering Chip Lindsey, but he's apparently going through some personal issues, so they are passing on him. Our folks were also considering Steve Sarkisian, but they're apparently passing on him as well. Lane Kiffin is under consideration and so is Mike Gundy.

Long story short, my source says that there is no real direction, and there isn't anyone already in place. Source says that this is shaping up to possibly be a bit of a mess.

Side note, my source also said that Gouge and Greene both wanted to keep Gus, but the donors flat out told them they would not contribute another dime until Gus was gone. Basically ham-stringed the president and AD to get rid of Gus.

Source also said a coach from ND is going to Vandy, so Gus is not. Said Gus is now considering Arizona State."

Big time college athletics is just a strange dynamic when you have big money people who want to make the decisions instead of the President and AD who were hired (presumably approved by the same people) to do that job.
 
I keep having to remind myself that this administration offered Mike Gundy 7 mil per year to come here. They have the funds. It's a motivation to spend those funds that can be a problem. Freeze wouldn't require that much. He'd probably come for 3.5 to 4.5 per year.

He's making 3 million at Liberty. I would say at least 4.5 and maybe more.
 
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Glad to see other schools executing a coaching search to perfection. Great work, Auburn.

Why can’t this be UGA or FLA? I don’t mind AU as much because they are a thorn in Bama’s side. We don’t play them every year so I don’t mind them being strong and giving Bama fits.
 
This sounds all to familiar... and exactly why UT needs a plan before we do anything. We can’t afford another mess like last search. You better land one of your top 3 coaches if not already have someone in the fold before you do anything. I’d rather keep Pruitt another year than go into a messy coaching search again.
I hate to break it to you, but we ONLY do messy coaching searches.
 
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