Why do coaches not start the right QB?

[LivinginthePast]

I know it’s easy to judge as a fan but thinking about the JG situation vs the others reminds me of.

Kirby missing on Justin Fields
Franks starting over Kyle Trask
Dobbs being on the bench his sophomore year in favor of Worley and Peterman
Jalen Hurts over Tua for the whole season

Just a few examples. Feels like coaches are afraid to go with a new guy and they just accept mediocrity. Maybe it’s just my memory but wouldn’t Steve spurrier bench your ass in a heartbeat in the ole gator days? JP invested so much into JG it’s almost gotten him fired at this point. HB looks pretty good though. Could save his job like Dobbs did Butch.

 

[1vol8]

I know it’s easy to judge as a fan but thinking about the JG situation vs the others reminds me of.

Kirby missing on Justin Fields
Franks starting over Kyle Trask
Dobbs being on the bench his sophomore year in favor of Worley and Peterman
Jalen Hurts over Tua for the whole season

Just a few examples. Feels like coaches are afraid to go with a new guy and they just accept mediocrity. Maybe it’s just my memory but wouldn’t Steve spurrier bench your ass in a heartbeat in the ole gator days? JP invested so much into JG it’s almost gotten him fired at this point. HB looks pretty good though. Could save his job like Dobbs did Butch.

That’s why I’m not so quick to assume coaches are always right. Too many cases around the league where the back up was better than the starter.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I think most coaches choose the guy with the lowest risk of mistakes.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

I think most coaches choose the guy with the lowest risk of mistakes.

Hahahaha. Then Pruitt was way off in his decision

 

[JMSqb11]

I know it’s easy to judge as a fan but thinking about the JG situation vs the others reminds me of.

Kirby missing on Justin Fields
Franks starting over Kyle Trask
Dobbs being on the bench his sophomore year in favor of Worley and Peterman
Jalen Hurts over Tua for the whole season

Just a few examples. Feels like coaches are afraid to go with a new guy and they just accept mediocrity. Maybe it’s just my memory but wouldn’t Steve spurrier bench your ass in a heartbeat in the ole gator days? JP invested so much into JG it’s almost gotten him fired at this point. HB looks pretty good though. Could save his job like Dobbs did Butch.

Pruitt messed up the QB situation with JG constantly playing when JT and Maurer should have been given chances.

I’d argue we have prolly treated Bailey’s playing time just a tad bit late, but not far from perfect. There’s nothing Bailey has done to show he couldn’t have likely started Auburn game. In reality, Bailey is about a week or two late from starting. At the end of the day, his playing time as a starter has been smooth. Put another solid performance together next week on offense vs Aggies and Bailey should be fine going into 2021 when he has a full and normal scheduled Spring.

His preparation timeline will be forgotten if he turns into a top 5 conference QB next year. There wasn’t a need to rush Bailey’s playing time this year. There was a rush to get JG out of starting role however. Bailey is in a good spot.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

I know it’s easy to judge as a fan but thinking about the JG situation vs the others reminds me of.

Kirby missing on Justin Fields
Franks starting over Kyle Trask
Dobbs being on the bench his sophomore year in favor of Worley and Peterman
Jalen Hurts over Tua for the whole season

Just a few examples. Feels like coaches are afraid to go with a new guy and they just accept mediocrity. Maybe it’s just my memory but wouldn’t Steve spurrier bench your ass in a heartbeat in the ole gator days? JP invested so much into JG it’s almost gotten him fired at this point. HB looks pretty good though. Could save his job like Dobbs did Butch.

I agree with all of these, except maybe Dobbs. Dobbs struggled with decision-making as a Sophomore and really didn't turn the corner till he was a Junior; there was a pretty legit case for Worley over him at the beginning of the season; though Dobbs was probably the better QB the end of the season.

Hurts over Tua is also understandable, given how well Hurts played.

But Franks over Trask is still a head-scratcher. Dan Mullen is the best developer of QBs in the entire country, and he didn't seem to realize that Trask was much better than Franks. It was obvious to me after watching 1 game with Trask. I remember when Franks got injured, I viewed that as a bad sign for us, because I viewed Trask as the much better QB of the two. It's crazy that Dan Mullen knows 100 times more about Quarterbacks than I ever will, and yet couldn't see what was blindingly obvious to me.

So maybe it is just a fear of change; the unknown.

 

[hooperwho]

Pruitt messed up the QB situation with JG constantly playing when JT and Maurer should have been given chances.

I’d argue we have prolly treated Bailey’s playing time just a tad bit late, but not far from perfect. There’s nothing Bailey has done to show he couldn’t have likely started Auburn game. In reality, Bailey is about a week or two late from starting. At the end of the day, his playing time as a starter has been smooth. Put another solid performance together next week on offense vs Aggies and Bailey should be fine going into 2021 when he has a full and normal scheduled Spring.

His preparation timeline will be forgotten if he turns into a top 5 conference QB next year. There wasn’t a need to rush Bailey’s playing time this year. There was a rush to get JG out of starting role however. Bailey is in a good spot.

Don't forget Bailey will get a chance in a bowl game.

 

[LivinginthePast]

Don't forget Bailey will get a chance in a bowl game.

This is gonna be such a Tennessee ending to a season. Bring in new qb (bray, dobbs) beat AnM and win the bowl game. Go into next season with a bunch of hype. Lose to barbecue technological institute of Louisiana get swept by rest of sec.

 

[WhenUrVolUrVFL]

I know it’s easy to judge as a fan but thinking about the JG situation vs the others reminds me of.

Kirby missing on Justin Fields
Franks starting over Kyle Trask
Dobbs being on the bench his sophomore year in favor of Worley and Peterman
Jalen Hurts over Tua for the whole season

Just a few examples. Feels like coaches are afraid to go with a new guy and they just accept mediocrity. Maybe it’s just my memory but wouldn’t Steve spurrier bench your ass in a heartbeat in the ole gator days? JP invested so much into JG it’s almost gotten him fired at this point. HB looks pretty good though. Could save his job like Dobbs did Butch.

Harbaugh cost his career At Michigan starting weak ass Shea Patterson over Dylan Mccaffery.

Some coaches just really can’t make the right calls at QB, and it costs them dearly—Jeremy Pruitt being one of the most egregious offenders of anyone I’ve ever seen.

 

[37620VOL]

Bama went to Tua over a junior heisman candidate. Most outside observers thought that was nuts. Kirby might not have messed up either.

Now OSU sure as heck missed on Burrow.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Hurts/Tua wasn't a miss IMO Jalen did we was needed inside the offense that bama was running at the time.
I'm not sure Kirby was really that bad either

 

[BeecherVol]

I agree with all of these, except maybe Dobbs. Dobbs struggled with decision-making as a Sophomore and really didn't turn the corner till he was a Junior; there was a pretty legit case for Worley over him at the beginning of the season; though Dobbs was probably the better QB the end of the season.

Hurts over Tua is also understandable, given how well Hurts played.

But Franks over Trask is still a head-scratcher. Dan Mullen is the best developer of QBs in the entire country, and he didn't seem to realize that Trask was much better than Franks. It was obvious to me after watching 1 game with Trask. I remember when Franks got injured, I viewed that as a bad sign for us, because I viewed Trask as the much better QB of the two. It's crazy that Dan Mullen knows 100 times more about Quarterbacks than I ever will, and yet couldn't see what was blindingly obvious to me.

So maybe it is just a fear of change; the unknown.

The biggest issue with Dobbs/Worley was Worley running an offense made for Dobbs. The "no read" option with Worley was one of the silliest things I ve seen in awhile.
If Worley is more ready than the guy that fits your system, you adjust your system to fit him. The reason it was a debated issue was because of that.

 

[BeecherVol]

Bama went to Tua over a junior heisman candidate. Most outside observers thought that was nuts. Kirby might not have messed up either.

Now OSU sure as heck missed on Burrow.

Burrow was pretty average his first year at LSU.

Brady played a big part.

 

[m1al]

"Because they don't give you the best chance to win..."

Jeremy Pruitt

 

[JMSqb11]

Bama went to Tua over a junior heisman candidate. Most outside observers thought that was nuts. Kirby might not have messed up either.

Now OSU sure as heck missed on Burrow.

Didn’t he get beat out by Dwayne Haskins? Hard to say that Haskins didn’t work out there over Burrow.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

The fact that Bailey was recruited by Alabama Florida and Georgia as well as us tells you everything you need to know about the kid.

 

[JMSqb11]

Hurts/Tua wasn't a miss IMO Jalen did we was needed inside the offense that bama was running at the time.
I'm not sure Kirby was really that bad either

Hurts was also like 27-2 as a starter when Tua got the nod.

 

[give_him 6]

Kirby still making mistakes at UGA with the QB.

 

[joevol33]

The fact that Bailey was recruited by Alabama Florida and Georgia as well as us tells you everything you need to know about the kid.

I just watched a recap of our game. You can tell Bailey has it, and is gonna be good. I'm just worried he'll end up leaving because Pruitt is a yahoo.

 

[TartanTurff]

In Pruitt's case, the thought process that impairs player evaluation is the same process that causes bad grammer, i.e. "I thought both quarterbacks done good tonight." He just isn't very smart, doesn't think, just reacts and is a highly compensated embarrassment to the University.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Pruitt messed up the QB situation with JG constantly playing when JT and Maurer should have been given chances.

I’d argue we have prolly treated Bailey’s playing time just a tad bit late, but not far from perfect. There’s nothing Bailey has done to show he couldn’t have likely started Auburn game. In reality, Bailey is about a week or two late from starting. At the end of the day, his playing time as a starter has been smooth. Put another solid performance together next week on offense vs Aggies and Bailey should be fine going into 2021 when he has a full and normal scheduled Spring.

His preparation timeline will be forgotten if he turns into a top 5 conference QB next year. There wasn’t a need to rush Bailey’s playing time this year. There was a rush to get JG out of starting role however. Bailey is in a good spot.

BM got 4 starts last season, how many more should he have been given? Should he have been given starts when he was injured or in concussion protocols? BM got lots of chances. JT didn't get chances last year because he wasn't anywhere near ready.

 

[eskimovol]

Dobbs played his freshman year at UK didn't he? He was really skinny and not the strongest arm that game I believe, that off-season he really bulked up.

 

[LittleVol]

I know it’s easy to judge as a fan but thinking about the JG situation vs the others reminds me of.

Kirby missing on Justin Fields
Franks starting over Kyle Trask
Dobbs being on the bench his sophomore year in favor of Worley and Peterman
Jalen Hurts over Tua for the whole season

Just a few examples. Feels like coaches are afraid to go with a new guy and they just accept mediocrity. Maybe it’s just my memory but wouldn’t Steve spurrier bench your ass in a heartbeat in the ole gator days? JP invested so much into JG it’s almost gotten him fired at this point. HB looks pretty good though. Could save his job like Dobbs did Butch.

Most of the time, they do start the right guy.
If you look across all of college fooball, the best guy is usually playing.

Frohm led UGA to a SEC Title and NC appearance
Trask got hurt, and Franks became the guy early
You're correct on Dobbs
Jalen Hurts was 24-2 as a starter coming into his junior season.

 

[JMSqb11]

BM got 4 starts last season, how many more should he have been given? Should he have been given starts when he was injured or in concussion protocols? BM got lots of chances. JT didn't get chances last year because he wasn't anywhere near ready.

Maurer truly is a case of a player who can’t stay healthy to save his life. Shrout is streaky as we’ve seen. I think a tandem of them two are better than anything JG gave us this year. I still think Pruitt played Bailey just about right. Looking back he should have started Auburn but think that would have been the earliest. Maybe start him second half of Arkansas. Bailey didn’t get a Spring camp and I think that weighed into the decision. Regardless if he finishes strong next week and potential bowl game, our offense should be nice going into Spring and 2021. Even more so if we get very few departures with kids taking advantage of free year to come back in addition to recruiting.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Maurer truly is a case of a player who can’t stay healthy to save his life. Shrout is streaky as we’ve seen. I think a tandem of them two are better than anything JG gave us this year. I still think Pruitt played Bailey just about right. Looking back he should have started Auburn but think that would have been the earliest. Maybe start him second half of Arkansas. Bailey didn’t get a Spring camp and I think that weighed into the decision. Regardless if he finishes strong next week and potential bowl game, our offense should be nice going into Spring and 2021. Even more so if we get very few departures with kids taking advantage of free year to come back in addition to recruiting.

A win Saturday followed by a bowl win would be huge I feel. That would give us a 5-6 record, it would show that the guys never quit playing hard and I think it would help recruit the players we need next year to return. We desperately need something good to happen Saturday, it would at least give us a chance going into next season. Pruitt also desperately needs a big win vs a highly ranked team whether they are deserving or not of the ranking is a different debate.