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zjcvols said:
You mean the guys who has led three different teams to a World Series appearance and was GM of a World Series champ in 2018? That’s not good at all.
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Any GM can win a World Series in Boston. There was a reason they canned him after just one bad season.

He only does well with a mountain of cash to spend and prospects to trade. The Phillies have some money, but isn't their farm system awful at the moment? If memory serves all he knows how to do is spend mountains of cash and gut farm systems to get whoever the most coveted FA or pending FA is. That doesn't take much analysis or discretion.
 
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05_never_again said:
Any GM can win a World Series in Boston. There was a reason they canned him after just one bad season.

He only does well with a mountain of cash to spend and prospects to trade. The Phillies have some money, but isn't their farm system awful at the moment? If memory serves all he knows how to do is spend mountains of cash and gut farm systems to get whoever the most coveted FA or pending FA is. That doesn't take much analysis or discretion.
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Any GM? Are we forgetting that 86 year drought or something?

And you obviously don’t remember because he rebuilt the Tigers from the ground up and the Marlins. Yeah he has left two teams in not great situations but that was also on ownership’s command.

Either way, he’s not afraid to make big moves and our GM is. Along with the Mets new ownership group and Washington spending whatever they want, this isn’t a great scenario for us that the Phillies got an uber aggressive GM with cash to spend.
 
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zjcvols said:
Any GM? Are we forgetting that 86 year drought or something?

And you obviously don’t remember because he rebuilt the Tigers from the ground up and the Marlins. Yeah he has left two teams in not great situations but that was also on ownership’s command.

Either way, he’s not afraid to make big moves and our GM is. Along with the Mets new ownership group and Washington spending whatever they want, this isn’t a great scenario for us that the Phillies got an uber aggressive GM in Philly.
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Dude, the curse is ancient history. Boston is an uber-big market now and should be competing every year, especially now that the curse is off their back. Was in Detroit a long time, took him almost 10 years to make them into a consistent playoff team and never got over the hump. The 1997 Marlins WS was a total fluke; they didn't even make the playoffs in any other year.

Philly does not have the cash that the Red Sox, Dodgers, Yankees, etc. do and they also don't have a great farm system. His M.O. is to spend like a drunken sailor and deal the entire farm system in an effort to win now. That's what he did in Boston, and it worked (again), but then they canned him after just one bad season. Philly already has all that money committed to Harper and their farm system isn't great. He seems like he'll be out of his element there.
 
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05_never_again said:
Dude, the curse is ancient history. Boston is an uber-big market now and should be competing every year, especially now that the curse is off their back. Was in Detroit a long time, took him almost 10 years to make them into a consistent playoff team and never got over the hump. The 1997 Marlins WS was a total fluke; they didn't even make the playoffs in any other year.

Philly does not have the cash that the Red Sox, Dodgers, Yankees, etc. do and they also don't have a great farm system. His M.O. is to spend like a drunken sailor and deal the entire farm system in an effort to win now. Philly already has all that money committed to Harper and their farm system isn't great. He seems like he'll be out of his element there.
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The Marlins wasn’t a fluke, they traded all their big names because ownership made him after 1997 because Hizinga was mad he didn’t get a new ballpark. They had a young really solid core he built.

And Detroit even though they missed the playoffs for a few years after the WS run, they won 88, 84, 76 and 81 games. They had some solid teams before then.

And the Phillies have as much money as any team. They can afford a $200M payroll if they want. And ownership is dying to spend money. Even if they don’t have a great farm system right now they can build one up and still have young assets.
 
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TBrown said:
I prefer my divisional adversaries cash-strapped and gun-shy.

Oh wait, that’s us!
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Even if you think Donbrowski isn’t a great GM, it shows Philly is gonna be more aggressive and not afraid to make big moves. It’s still not a good sign.
 
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zjcvols said:
I disagree. We had a lot of **** go wrong in 2020. We should have closed the deal but the window is far from closed.
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Dodgers had depth but we had more top end talent and outlier/career year risk.... not good considering we should have put them away.
 
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AV_12 said:
Dodgers had depth but we had more top end talent and outlier/career year risk.... not good considering we should have put them away.
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Bryse Wilson and AJ minter threw 10 shutout IP. If this wasn’t the year, there’s no such thing as “the year”
 
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Florida Stanley said:
Last year was our year. It’s going to get harder and harder.
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How does it get harder than Ozzie and RAJ spending time on the DL, losing 6 starting pitchers and Freddie missing most of the preseason with Covid? They should've been dead on the side of the road by Labor Day.
 
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GAVol said:
How does it get harder than Ozzie and RAJ spending time on the DL, losing 6 starting pitchers and Freddie missing most of the preseason with Covid? They should've been dead on the side of the road by Labor Day.
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irrelevant, we had the best lineup in baseball despite all of that. Feels like 1/2 our team had career years, chances of that happening simultaneously again are slim. And lol on Freddie missing preseason as if that hurt him or the team. It can be both a great season and still a disappointment for losing grip on what was ours to take.

We should’ve won a WS last year.
 
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GAVol said:
How does it get harder than Ozzie and RAJ spending time on the DL, losing 6 starting pitchers and Freddie missing most of the preseason with Covid? They should've been dead on the side of the road by Labor Day.
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We had all the important dudes besides Soroka when it mattered, and AJ and Bryse pitched out of their minds in 2 starts
 
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