Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[GojiraVol17]

Dang. EG is a liability in pass pro. Tried to leak out on a play where there was a free rusher. On the other play, he tries to pick up the dog, but never gets square. Blow by. Maybe we're overrating Jay's coaching a little.

I think you thoroughly enjoy zeroing in on what you want to see, frequently. Not saying you’re wrong in this instance, but every time I’ve noticed you post you conveniently pop up when things aren’t sunny.

 

[RikidyBones]

catbone liked*

No one liked*

 

[LA Vol]

This UT team doesn't have leaders like Dobbs and Jennings, who can will the team to a win. Guys everybody thought would be vocal leaders simply weren't this season. Players shouldn't have to make up for coaching shortfalls, but strong leadership on both sides would help.

 

[SamRebel35]

I think you thoroughly enjoy zeroing in on what you want to see, frequently. Not saying you’re wrong in this instance, but every time I’ve noticed you post you conveniently pop up when things aren’t sunny.

In your whole one year as a volnation member, when have things been "sunny"?

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

At this point, there shouldn't be "Butch's guys" and "Pruitt's guys"-- there should be one team, with one goal. IDT the program is as "toxic" as some say, but things do need to be fixed. Starts with the staff and leading by example. The paycut stuff sent a signal about commitment and all-in for UT. Try instilling a "One Tennessee" message after that.

Fire sale

 

[MarcoVol]

I think you thoroughly enjoy zeroing in on what you want to see, frequently. Not saying you’re wrong in this instance, but every time I’ve noticed you post you conveniently pop up when things aren’t sunny.

He’s right in this instance tho.

The entire RB room is bad in pass protection. Like real bad. Idk if that’s all on Graham bc I’ve seen plenty of times (UGA 2nd half comes to mind) where they make a good read, they’re in the correct position, and then they whiff on the block.

 

[appyvol]

I've thought about this a lot, but I don't believe the defense is nearly as bad as we think. They are on the field a ton due to our anemic offense. Now, all that being said, they played a decent ballgame Saturday, the offense just couldn't do anything with it to put points on the board.

Saturday was one of Chaney's better games. We seemed to be able to put a few drives together, just to have it stall around the 40 yard line. In Chaney's offense, a huge piece of the puzzle is shot plays. He set up, then dialed up some great opportunities to push the ball down the field and score, we just didn't execute. The offensive line play was bad, it's past time for Friend to go. Bailey is young and struggled with calling protections, but we need a veteran on the line to step up and make those calls for him. Usually that would be your center, but with Kennedy out someone else has to take charge.

Defensively, we struggle against the slant and covering the middle of the field in general, that's no secret. However, Pruitt's philosophy in the secondary hasn't really changed since he was calling the defense at Alabama, we just aren't executing. If I get some free time later, I'll try to put something together showing what we're trying to do, and why it's not working. We have played well in the run game defensively.

Contrary to popular belief, we're closer to having a good product on the field than you think. I'm not saying Pruitt is or isn't the guy, right now I'm leaning more toward isn't. But we executed during our 8 game win streak, and in the first half against Georgia. I don't know if it's a lack of coaching or a rift in the team, but we aren't executing consistently like we did during that streak.

 

[Smokey123]

I'm actually not joking. I don't want Miami to draft Trey Smith before the fourth round. He's not worth that. Talent alone doesn't override it on the OL. You need to be a cohesive unit. Trey doesn't show, on the field or sidelines, that he cares for it. I'm sure he's a good dude, seems like he is, just not a good teammate on the field. I said what I said.

Oh ik you weren’t joking which is why it’s funny

 

[05_never_again]

I've thought about this a lot, but I don't believe the defense is nearly as bad as we think. They are on the field a ton due to our anemic offense. Now, all that being said, they played a decent ballgame Saturday, the offense just couldn't do anything with it to put points on the board.

Saturday was one of Chaney's better games. We seemed to be able to put a few drives together, just to have it stall around the 40 yard line. In Chaney's offense, a huge piece of the puzzle is shot plays. He set up, then dialed up some great opportunities to push the ball down the field and score, we just didn't execute. The offensive line play was bad, it's past time for Friend to go. Bailey is young and struggled with calling protections, but we need a veteran on the line to step up and make those calls for him. Usually that would be your center, but with Kennedy out someone else has to take charge.

Defensively, we struggle against the slant and covering the middle of the field in general, that's no secret. However, Pruitt's philosophy in the secondary hasn't really changed since he was calling the defense at Alabama, we just aren't executing. If I get some free time later, I'll try to put something together showing what we're trying to do, and why it's not working. We have played well in the run game defensively.

Contrary to popular belief, we're closer to having a good product on the field than you think. I'm not saying Pruitt is or isn't the guy, right now I'm leaning more toward isn't. But we executed during our 8 game win streak, and in the first half against Georgia. I don't know if it's a lack of coaching or a rift in the team, but we aren't executing consistently like we did during that streak.

The defense is pretty bad. There's only one thing that they do well occasionally, and that's stop the run. The front seven generates no pass rush, our LBs are awful in pass coverage, and the secondary is awful. They are frequently out of position and take bad angles, or if they are in position to make a play on the ball they fail to (cannot get their head turned around, etc.).

 

[HankHill]

I'm actually not joking. I don't want Miami to draft Trey Smith before the fourth round. He's not worth that. Talent alone doesn't override it on the OL. You need to be a cohesive unit. Trey doesn't show, on the field or sidelines, that he cares for it. I'm sure he's a good dude, seems like he is, just not a good teammate on the field. I said what I said.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Or, some of the same people are pushing the same, possibly baseless, narratives

The product on the field tells much of the tale. Not helping your freshman QB up after a sack and letting Florida get away with three roughing the passer calls is BS.

 

[volinbama256]

Not only does no one help Bailey up but Cade and Cooper fist bumping like they just accomplished something

WTF is happening

Man, this is really upsetting... there's so many things wrong with this... Why in the F were they fist bumping!? Not helping your QB up when you F'd up and got him sacked??? I can only imagine what past VFL's would say watching this... The coach should be chewing their arses, that's not a team... That's a "meh, is it fourth down now so we can go back on the sidelines and sip Gatorade?" Pretty disturbing, wish I hadn't seen that.

 

[james_govols]

I've thought about this a lot, but I don't believe the defense is nearly as bad as we think. They are on the field a ton due to our anemic offense. Now, all that being said, they played a decent ballgame Saturday, the offense just couldn't do anything with it to put points on the board.

Saturday was one of Chaney's better games. We seemed to be able to put a few drives together, just to have it stall around the 40 yard line. In Chaney's offense, a huge piece of the puzzle is shot plays. He set up, then dialed up some great opportunities to push the ball down the field and score, we just didn't execute. The offensive line play was bad, it's past time for Friend to go. Bailey is young and struggled with calling protections, but we need a veteran on the line to step up and make those calls for him. Usually that would be your center, but with Kennedy out someone else has to take charge.

Defensively, we struggle against the slant and covering the middle of the field in general, that's no secret. However, Pruitt's philosophy in the secondary hasn't really changed since he was calling the defense at Alabama, we just aren't executing. If I get some free time later, I'll try to put something together showing what we're trying to do, and why it's not working. We have played well in the run game defensively.

Contrary to popular belief, we're closer to having a good product on the field than you think. I'm not saying Pruitt is or isn't the guy, right now I'm leaning more toward isn't. But we executed during our 8 game win streak, and in the first half against Georgia. I don't know if it's a lack of coaching or a rift in the team, but we aren't executing consistently like we did during that streak.

I agree. The defense has not been great but they haven't been bad enough to lose us games this year. I think the reason so many teams use the slant against us is because our LBs are awful at pass coverage. Banks and Crouch just are good at stopping the run but that's it.

If Pruitt and staff can't recruit at a level competing with Georgia and Florida, then we are going to stay middle of the pack because I don't think Pruitt is a better coach than Mullen, and we don't have as much talent as Georgia.

I'm leaning that Pruitt isn't the guy, but Tennessee has a lot of talent.

I think with one average to above average QB, this team looks entirely different. Maybea 5-6 win team this year.

 

[RikidyBones]

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I have too many Stephen A clips on my phone and if I was able to easily upload them to respond, I would do it. Just know, I have it

 

[HankHill]

I'm actually not joking. I don't want Miami to draft Trey Smith before the fourth round. He's not worth that. Talent alone doesn't override it on the OL. You need to be a cohesive unit. Trey doesn't show, on the field or sidelines, that he cares for it. I'm sure he's a good dude, seems like he is, just not a good teammate on the field. I said what I said.

Actually i can’t even pawn this off on a Stephan A gif. This take is just...... sigh.

*clears throat*

TREY IS THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SINCE ERIC BERRY. THE MAN HAS BATTLED BLOOD CLOTS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES AND SHOWED UP LIKE A COMPLETE WARRIOR. THE DUDE IS THE DEFINITION OF A BULLDOZER GUARD. OUR ENTIRE RUN SCHEME FOR MULTIPLE COACHING STAFFS AND THREE OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS HAS DIRECTLY REVOLVED AROUND HIM SINCE THE MOMMENT HE HAS STEPPED ON CAMPUS.

with love.

 

[HankHill]

I have too many Stephen A clips on my phone and if I was able to easily upload them to respond, I would do it. Just know, I have it

I like that energy. Sometimes i try and carry on entire conversations with Stephan A clips

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Actually i can’t even pawn this off on a Stephan A gif. This take is just...... sigh.

*clears throat*

TREY IS THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SINCE ERIC BERRY. THE MAN HAS BATTLED BLOOD CLOTS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES AND SHOWED UP LIKE A COMPLETE WARRIOR. THE DUDE IS THE DEFINITION OF A BULLDOZER GUARD. OUR ENTIRE RUN SCHEME FOR MULTIPLE COACHING STAFFS AND THREE OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS HAS DIRECTLY REVOLVED AROUND HIM SINCE THE MOMMENT HE HAS STEPPED ON CAMPUS.

with love.

Thanks Brady

 

[MarcoVol]

Actually i can’t even pawn this off on a Stephan A gif. This take is just...... sigh.

*clears throat*

TREY IS THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SINCE ERIC BERRY. THE MAN HAS BATTLED BLOOD CLOTS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES AND SHOWED UP LIKE A COMPLETE WARRIOR. THE DUDE IS THE DEFINITION OF A BULLDOZER GUARD. OUR ENTIRE RUN SCHEME FOR MULTIPLE COACHING STAFFS AND THREE OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS HAS DIRECTLY REVOLVED AROUND HIM SINCE THE MOMMENT HE HAS STEPPED ON CAMPUS.

with love.

Agree with all of this.

But I wish he’d help his QB off the ground when our OL goes all Swiss cheese and let’s him get pummeled. That, or he should be ordering someone else to do it.

 

[90 Vol]

theres a history. was sort of unclear, but dates back to when Freeze was a HS coach, and Fulmer was out on road.

Michael Oher recruitment.

 

[RikidyBones]

Actually i can’t even pawn this off on a Stephan A gif. This take is just...... sigh.

*clears throat*

TREY IS THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SINCE ERIC BERRY. THE MAN HAS BATTLED BLOOD CLOTS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES AND SHOWED UP LIKE A COMPLETE WARRIOR. THE DUDE IS THE DEFINITION OF A BULLDOZER GUARD. OUR ENTIRE RUN SCHEME FOR MULTIPLE COACHING STAFFS AND THREE OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS HAS DIRECTLY REVOLVED AROUND HIM SINCE THE MOMMENT HE HAS STEPPED ON CAMPUS.

with love.

His unit is off, his unit is not a unit and they don't take ownership of their own. I never said he didn't have talent. He does. Clearly. But how much of his return had to do with trying to make millions and go into the league? (I don't blame him for wanting that goal) but he does show, on the field or sidelines, that he didn't do it for his team. That's OK. But you're not a leader then. Trey needs to follow. I don't want that on my team for 3rd or higher round talent.

 

[Smokey123]

Actually i can’t even pawn this off on a Stephan A gif. This take is just...... sigh.

*clears throat*

TREY IS THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SINCE ERIC BERRY. THE MAN HAS BATTLED BLOOD CLOTS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES AND SHOWED UP LIKE A COMPLETE WARRIOR. THE DUDE IS THE DEFINITION OF A BULLDOZER GUARD. OUR ENTIRE RUN SCHEME FOR MULTIPLE COACHING STAFFS AND THREE OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS HAS DIRECTLY REVOLVED AROUND HIM SINCE THE MOMMENT HE HAS STEPPED ON CAMPUS.

with love.

*checks notes* nope not worth a 3rd round selection, hard pass

 

[Orange Studs]

I am glad you guys saw this also. I noticed in watching a game that you hardly saw them helping each other off the ground. Personally, I think when a staff is at odds with each other it effects the attitude of the team. If the staff can't get along and the players see it division occurs, sides are taken which is not health at all overall. With the reports that the staff arguing constantly with each other breeds disunity and division. Not saying you don't have disagreements but we all know its deeper than that with with this staff. The responsibility starts at the top.

 

[05_never_again]

theres a history. was sort of unclear, but dates back to when Freeze was a HS coach, and Fulmer was out on road.

I've heard that when Fulmer was recruiting Michael Oher and Greg Hardy at Briarcrest, Freeze was saying he could secure their commitments to a certain school if he were offered a job on that school's coaching staff. This really irritated Fulmer and he said no. You can guess which school said yes.

 

[yourstruly23]

Actually i can’t even pawn this off on a Stephan A gif. This take is just...... sigh.

*clears throat*

TREY IS THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SINCE ERIC BERRY. THE MAN HAS BATTLED BLOOD CLOTS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES AND SHOWED UP LIKE A COMPLETE WARRIOR. THE DUDE IS THE DEFINITION OF A BULLDOZER GUARD. OUR ENTIRE RUN SCHEME FOR MULTIPLE COACHING STAFFS AND THREE OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS HAS DIRECTLY REVOLVED AROUND HIM SINCE THE MOMMENT HE HAS STEPPED ON CAMPUS.

with love.

100% correct

With that, because he's the player we've built around. In his senior year, when this team is looking for a leader, people assume that to be him, including me... and he's not being that leader, fair or not...

 

[barrylee]

Has anyone on here been in contact with SweetasSoda? Kind of worried about her, I know she was going through some things but I haven’t even seen her like a post unless I just missed it.. SAS if you’re out there hope you are doing ok..