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Ron Swanson said:
Yes he did.
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Volquest has already turned on Pruitt?

I'm a 247 subscriber and they are still trying to be positive.

This isn't good for Pruitt if the media is already starting to turn on him.

I'm actually shocked Hubbs would say this knowing it's highly likely Pruitt is back next year.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
What was the risk in not extending him? Where was he going? By the end of last season he hadn't really accomplished anything that warranted a raise or extension.
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I’d say the value in extending him was for recruiting. Easy for an opposing coach to say “we know you like coach Pruitt but are you sure he’s going to be coach? His contract runs out before you even would play for him”



I’ve always felt that recruiting was the best reason coaches got extensions
 
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Atlanta VOL said:
Fulmer has been working on contracts for some coaches that are expiring. Tells you all you need to know about JP returning IMO.
Agree with Hubbs at this point.. Bass should get his wish on weinke....jay planning on staying and as of now friend may be back however there have been some flare ups between him and JP lately but we will see how that shakes out.

More to come on the assistant side...certainly think Chaney is in play as well.
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So just change the paint on a sinking and hope it floats? This is CP's third coaching change and seems he has a hard time getting along with any of them. Like a spoiled child getting everything he wants and still can't get the job done. So now we go deeper in the hole financially with new assistant coaches contracts and CP's when he gets fired next year. UT doesn't care about fans anymore nor winning.
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
AV, if you choose to believe him, let us know that Fulmer has hitched his wagon to Pruitt. Enough said. The something you said that stinks is Pruitt. Fulmer is choosing to throw himself into that same stinch which will ultimately be his downfall, for as much good as he may have done in the past.

Better learn to like Friend if Pruitt gets a ninth life because Pruitt’s chosen him to be his righthand man. Just look at all the coaching changes and he’s gone nowhere but up in the pay scale while his on-the-field product continues to go down.

Sometimes you gotta let things get worse before they get better. Whatever gets Pruitt out the fastest is better in the long run.
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Grain of salt. Glad he's here to give 'insight', its free entertainment. Anyone can be anything they want.

Hey, i'm a connected alum!

Guess what? Degree from another school & i dont donate to VASF.

Point is we believe what we want to hear sometimes.

I think Fulmer is well liked by big donors, least one's who care about UT. He and Boyd are on the same page, and he has the Chancellor. So, for first time in years. The train is moving. All other athletics are gtg
 
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jamesthesame said:
Volquest has already turned on Pruitt?

I'm a 247 subscriber and they are still trying to be positive.

This isn't good for Pruitt if the media is already starting to turn on him.

I'm actually shocked Hubbs would say this knowing it's highly likely Pruitt is back next year.
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It’s just a matter of WHEN not IF at this point. Only way anyone should entertain the thought of him getting beyond next year (I think he should be fired yesterday) is if he wins the East and is competitive in the SECCG in 2021. Not a snowball’s chance in hell that happens.
 
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jamesthesame said:
Volquest has already turned on Pruitt?

I'm a 247 subscriber and they are still trying to be positive.

This isn't good for Pruitt if the media is already starting to turn on him.

I'm actually shocked Hubbs would say this knowing it's highly likely Pruitt is back next year.
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I think Hubbs et al, is just exhausted from all the fan negativity.
 
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jamesthesame said:
Volquest has already turned on Pruitt?

I'm a 247 subscriber and they are still trying to be positive.

This isn't good for Pruitt if the media is already starting to turn on him.

I'm actually shocked Hubbs would say this knowing it's highly likely Pruitt is back next year.
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Rivals ready to cash in on another UT coaching change. Nobody does a coaching search quite like the VOLS. If our HFC could recruit like we can track planes, coach like we can speculate, etc., we'd be coming off of back-to-back championships.
 
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Devo182 said:
Imo you start Maurer. Let him throw about 60 times. Let Banks play RB. All freshman along the OL. Ease up on the run defense. Pass defense - keep doing whatever we're doing.
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Based on how we’ve handled quarterbacks this season I expect Shrout and Bailey to not travel, Maurer to get the start and JG to be coaching him up from the sideline
 
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BruinVol said:
I’d say the value in extending him was for recruiting. Easy for an opposing coach to say “we know you like coach Pruitt but are you sure he’s going to be coach? His contract runs out before you even would play for him”



I’ve always felt that recruiting was the best reason coaches got extensions
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Add a year. Keep the pay the same, restructure where the buyout goes down over time.

Also, I don't think recruits care about contracts (as long as there are a couple years), they care about winning, and getting into the league. Stability doesn't come with a lengthy contract, it comes with success. Multi-million dollar buyouts don't stop coaches from being fired, winning stops coaches from being fired.
 
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jackcrevol said:
I think Hubbs et al, is just exhausted from all the fan negativity.
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It’s gonna be 500 times worse if Pruitt is retained after this season. Gotta cut the head off the snake. Can’t just keep moving asst coaches every year. Keep beating a dead horse but nobody worth a darn is gonna want to come here knowing they are working for a dead man walking. Just rearranging chairs on the Titanic.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Wow. How bad do you have to be for HUBBS to badmouth you? I think Pruitts behavior towards the media the other day was the final straw for many of them.
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What the Austin Prices and Hubbses of the world care about is access. That's why they play nice with people associated with the program. If even they are giving a more unvarnished version of their opinion now, I wonder if that could be a reflection of their thinking Pruitt might be done after all. They have no incentive to keep a good relationship with a total lame duck program.
 
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Beating Vandy does absolutely nothing for me as a fan. We should do that every year, even tho we haven’t lately. A win against a mortally wounded already weak football team doesn’t move the radar a bit!!
y’all think the ridicule is bad now, wait until the media gets ahold of us if a 3 win team makes a Bowl!! We will be even more of a laughing stock.
 
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jamesthesame said:
Volquest has already turned on Pruitt?

I'm a 247 subscriber and they are still trying to be positive.

This isn't good for Pruitt if the media is already starting to turn on him.

I'm actually shocked Hubbs would say this knowing it's highly likely Pruitt is back next year.
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Hubbs doesn't like the guy because no one likes the guy. Brent has been on campus with the Vol Network and WNML before that for close to 30 years. He knows everyone over there. And he knows all the people who were fired, furloughed or had their hours cut while this coaching staff chugged along making their normal pay for mediocre results.

Hubbs, rightly, has made the calculation he can say whatever he wants about Pruitt because he doesn't need a relationship with him anymore. People are so pissed that everyone is talking.
 
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Pruitt's only hope in making it here is to get his NFL rejected friends to sign up. If we can bring in Bo Davis, Tosh Lupoi, and Freddy Kitchens we might be able to turn it around. The best thing about hiring someone who has coached at big programs is connections. If we were to hire someone like the guy from Coastal Carolina, who does he bring in when all his coaches now get hired away.
 
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