Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[knoxswim890]

How long do you hold that over Freeze’s head? What if he’s turned his personal life around? He’s proving at Liberty right now that he can win with less talent without cheating.

You mean he’s proven he’s either turned it around or has learned not to get caught. Either way, it’s a risk that isn’t palatable for a large number of folks. I’d hire him with a contract that mitigates the majority of the risk, but we know how UTAD is with contracts...

 

[engineerVOL]

AUB would hire Freeze in a heartbeat.

Bruce Pearl is their bball coach.

Muh word Freeze, Pearl, and a cabin

 

[BruinVol]

Yes he should unless Fulmer wants to get fired himself

You guys act like Hugh Freeze is the only coach on earth

 

[Ron Swanson]

I really don’t understand needing to have people in positions who are former Vols.

Imagine cutting the talent pool down to 5% Bc you’re looking for an alumnus.

Let’s start hiring the right people for the job. And more importantly let’s get egos out of the way!

Totally agree. He’s in over his head just like Pruitt but most don’t want to admit it because he’s “Coach”.

 

[Orange Studs]

Apparently Chadwell is taking the Vandy job....according to the Vandy people.

If he does, he ain't very smart.

 

[volatil]

So Freeze cheated

 

[Ace]

It has been a long time ago, but Fulmer may still hold a grudge over Michael Oher going to Ole Miss. Freeze was Oher’s high school coach. Everyone thought UT was a lock

 

[UTSuave’]

It’s more than just what happened 5 years ago. Easier said than done.

Sure guy!...and Kiffins winning would you tell him no? like can we not just set it aside? lol we are losing every year

 

[JAllen18]

Why doesn't he want to make a move? There's no way he sees progress bring made nor happy about the direction we're headed.

What starts the dominoes? Recruiting falling off? Assistants jumping ship?

Definitely not happy about the direction we're headed, but Fulmer wants stability in this program. And Pruitt has done some good things especially surrounding the culture of the football program. And recruiting has been well up to this point.
It's not easy to fire a coach 3 years into a job, especially since the program had been trending upward. The team still is not where it needs to be depth-wise, and holding many players due to tracing has affected their development. I think Pruitt and staff have managed that horribly, and the losing has spiraled out of control. Should he be fired for that as a first time head coach? Fulmer would like not to, and I think he may extend the leash on him until next year. Lose to Vandy and things may change.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Definitely not happy about the direction we're headed, but Fulmer wants stability in this program. And Pruitt has done some good things especially surrounding the culture of the football program. And recruiting has been well up to this point.
It's not easy to fire a coach 3 years into a job, especially since the program had been trending upward. The team still is not where it needs to be depth-wise, and holding many players due to tracing has affected their development. I think Pruitt and staff have managed that horribly, and the losing has spiraled out of control. Should he be fired for that as a first time head coach? Fulmer would like not to, and I think he may extend the leash on him until next year. Lose to Vandy, and things may change.

 

[Ace]

I still haven't forgiven Sandra for that or Bobby Bouchers mama when she became a tutor. Fk her.

She was ok with Michael playing foosball, but would not let Bobby play - hypocrite

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Tweet is prolly talking about JG and likely the coaches, but what happened behind the scenes to make him say that is what I wanna know

Cocaine

 

[Dooby15]

You mean he’s proven he’s either turned it around or has learned not to get caught. Either way, it’s a risk that isn’t palatable for a large number of folks. I’d hire him with a contract that mitigates the majority of the risk, but we know how UTAD is with contracts...

I mean he immediately started winning at Liberty, not even enough time to cheat and win. I was actually referring to turning his personal life around. If we’re looking for a coach that hasn’t bent the NCAA rules....... good luck.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Definitely not happy about the direction we're headed, but Fulmer wants stability in this program. And Pruitt has done some good things especially surrounding the culture of the football program. And recruiting has been well up to this point.
It's not easy to fire a coach 3 years into a job, especially since the program had been trending upward. The team still is not where it needs to be depth-wise, and holding many players due to tracing has affected their development. I think Pruitt and staff have managed that horribly, and the losing has spiraled out of control. Should he be fired for that as a first time head coach? Fulmer would like not to, and I think he may extend the leash on him until next year. Lose to Vandy, and things may change.

Nothing says stability like turning your staff over for the third time in 3 years.

 

[RikidyBones]

She was ok with Michael playing foosball, but would not let Bobby play - hypocrite

Racist imo.

 

[Weezer]

I'll give Pruitt consistency, but I'm not sure consistently underachieving is the consistency we want.

 

[Ace]

Racist imo.

Well, she was Cajun

 

[Smokeytom]

How is this offense too complex when Tyler Bray ran it?

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[Kingston Vol]

You know what’s even more sad than that nonsense? If Fulmer actually fires Pruitt but passes on Freeze because his ego is in the way and hires Coach McGoogle and we’ll likely do this again in a few more years.

We’ve found ourselves on the same side for once, and I appreciate that, but why does it have to be “ego” regarding Fulmer’s issue with Freeze?

Fulmer cares about this program more than any of us. He’s literally given his life to it. Now, I’m not saying that makes him infallible, but I would argue he’s done far more good than bad in his current role.

His main goal is to get Tennessee back to national prominence. If he believes Freeze is too risky from a personality or decision making standpoint, I am inclined to line up behind him and say that’s the correct call.

 

[Headvol]

If...and said if it’s true, there is a long history there. Like...Hugh Freeze’s dream job is not UT when he is helping get Michael Oher to Ole Miss and then getting a job by Orgeron just a few weeks later.

Ok so how many high school coaches didn’t get an opportunity at the college level bc they wanted a specific player on their high school team. It happens quite often.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Nothing says stability like turning your staff over for the third time in 3 years.

fulmers fault pruitt can't keep a staff

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

You guys act like Hugh Freeze is the only coach on earth

He has won at every school he has been at. He is a winner. By far the coach with best resume that would take the job. He is begging for it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

We’ve found ourselves on the same side for once, and I appreciate that, but why does it have to be “ego” regarding Fulmer’s issue with Freeze?

Fulmer cares about this program more than any of us. He’s literally given his life to it. Now, I’m not saying that makes him infallible, but I would argue he’s done far more good than bad in his current role.

His main goal is to get Tennessee back to national prominence. If he believes Freeze is too risky from a personality or decision making standpoint, I am inclined to line up behind him and say that’s the correct call.

i have no doubts.

 

[Weezer]

We’ve found ourselves on the same side for once, and I appreciate that, but why does it have to be “ego” regarding Fulmer’s issue with Freeze?

Fulmer cares about this program more than any of us. He’s literally given his life to it. Now, I’m not saying that makes him infallible, but I would argue he’s done far more good than bad in his current role.

His main goal is to get Tennessee back to national prominence. If he believes Freeze is too risky from a personality or decision making standpoint, I am inclined to line up behind him and say that’s the correct call.

I'll gladly take his job for half the pay and give my life to UT football.

 

[snowvols]

Definitely not happy about the direction we're headed, but Fulmer wants stability in this program. And Pruitt has done some good things especially surrounding the culture of the football program. And recruiting has been well up to this point.
It's not easy to fire a coach 3 years into a job, especially since the program had been trending upward. The team still is not where it needs to be depth-wise, and holding many players due to tracing has affected their development. I think Pruitt and staff have managed that horribly, and the losing has spiraled out of control. Should he be fired for that as a first time head coach? Fulmer would like not to, and I think he may extend the leash on him until next year. Lose to Vandy, and things may change.

I mean, he's worse than Dooley and Dooley only got 3.

Damn. I wish we had never had that meaningless winning streak over crap teams.