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RyanWalkerPGH said:
What -- and who -- to watch as college football's coaching carousel heats up (espn.com)

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Coach: Jeremy Pruitt
Record: 2-6 this season, 15-18 overall
Contract situation: Signed through 2025 season, owed $12.88 million if fired this year
Pruitt seemingly has lost all momentum from a strong finish in 2019, when Tennessee won its final six games, including the Gator Bowl over Indiana. Tennessee has lost six straight, all by double digits, and still must face No. 5 Texas A&M on Dec. 19.
The Vols' offense has flatlined, failing to produce 20 points since Week 3 and falling short of 30 since a Week 2 win against Missouri. If Pruitt survives, major staff changes on offense are virtually guaranteed.
Tennessee awarded Pruitt a two-year contract extension before the season, an arguably unnecessary decision that would decrease the chances of a dismissal months later. Athletic director Phillip Fulmer remains supportive, and, to be fair, Pruitt is only in his third season, and he still can flip the roster through recruiting and development.
"Fulmer can't afford to [make a change] right now," an industry source said.
The one caveat is if Tennessee falls to winless Vanderbilt this week. A loss to the Commodores could force Tennessee to move on from Pruitt. Tennessee still would draw a good group of candidates, including Liberty's Hugh Freeze.
"If you lose to Vandy, you're done," a program source said.
 
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pierce60 said:
It may not be very ethical, but at this point I don’t see a move being made with Pruitt until after Early Signing Day.

Get the early signees locked up, make a move and then give the new coach the chance to convince those he wants to say and release those he doesn’t.
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If Pruitt is fired after the early signing day, any recruit wanting out of their NIL is free to do so.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I want us to play Vandy & a bowl game still. But only if Bailey or JT is starting/playing the lion's share of the snaps. But if Pruitt plans to trot out JG to start any of the remaining games then I say Saturday should be the last game.
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Same. Maybe UT will have a different head coach for the bowl game...
 
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Nuctech777 said:
Coach: Jeremy Pruitt
Record: 2-6 this season, 15-18 overall
Contract situation: Signed through 2025 season, owed $12.88 million if fired this year
Pruitt seemingly has lost all momentum from a strong finish in 2019, when Tennessee won its final six games, including the Gator Bowl over Indiana. Tennessee has lost six straight, all by double digits, and still must face No. 5 Texas A&M on Dec. 19.
The Vols' offense has flatlined, failing to produce 20 points since Week 3 and falling short of 30 since a Week 2 win against Missouri. If Pruitt survives, major staff changes on offense are virtually guaranteed.
Tennessee awarded Pruitt a two-year contract extension before the season, an arguably unnecessary decision that would decrease the chances of a dismissal months later. Athletic director Phillip Fulmer remains supportive, and, to be fair, Pruitt is only in his third season, and he still can flip the roster through recruiting and development.
"Fulmer can't afford to [make a change] right now," an industry source said.
The one caveat is if Tennessee falls to winless Vanderbilt this week. A loss to the Commodores could force Tennessee to move on from Pruitt. Tennessee still would draw a good group of candidates, including Liberty's Hugh Freeze.
"If you lose to Vandy, you're done," a program source said.
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oh, if he loses to Vandy, he better get a ****ing cab.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
One thing on Matt Campbell (beyond what is supposedly an enormous buyout) that gives me pause is that he has never had a recruiting class ranked higher than #46, and is currently sitting at #51 for 2021. I know that's at Iowa State, and Tennessee recruits itself, winning and players in the NFL speak for themselves, etc., but just worth noting that he is at best unproven in that area. Coming into the shark-infested recruiting waters in which Tennessee swims, that is a concern.
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Anybody that comes in without prior SEC experience/success, playoff/national title births or serious NFL cred is going to be questioned and heavily scrutinized. Campbell is about as sure of a thing as Napier and Chadwell. We shouldn’t even call him, especially with that buyout.
 
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AppStVol said:
Tennessee
Coach: Jeremy Pruitt
Record: 2-6 this season, 15-18 overall
Contract situation: Signed through 2025 season, owed $12.88 million if fired this year

Pruitt seemingly has lost all momentum from a strong finish in 2019, when Tennessee won its final six games, including the Gator Bowl over Indiana. Tennessee has lost six straight, all by double digits, and still must face No. 5 Texas A&M on Dec. 19.

The Vols' offense has flatlined, failing to produce 20 points since Week 3 and falling short of 30 since a Week 2 win against Missouri. If Pruitt survives, major staff changes on offense are virtually guaranteed.

Tennessee awarded Pruitt a two-year contract extension before the season, an arguably unnecessary decision that would decrease the chances of a dismissal months later. Athletic director Phillip Fulmer remains supportive, and, to be fair, Pruitt is only in his third season, and he still can flip the roster through recruiting and development.

"Fulmer can't afford to [make a change] right now," an industry source said.
The one caveat is if Tennessee falls to winless Vanderbilt this week. A loss to the Commodores could force Tennessee to move on from Pruitt. Tennessee still would draw a good group of candidates, including Liberty's Hugh Freeze.
"If you lose to Vandy, you're done," a program source said.
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I think this is accurate. Pruitt is back for year 4 unless TN falls to Vandy. Then Fulmer would act.

All this head coaching search talk is a waste of time. (not that i necessarily agree with it, but i am fairly positive this is the line of thinking at UT).
 
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Dudley Smith said:
One thing on Matt Campbell (beyond what is supposedly an enormous buyout) that gives me pause is that he has never had a recruiting class ranked higher than #46, and is currently sitting at #51 for 2021. I know that's at Iowa State, and Tennessee recruits itself, winning and players in the NFL speak for themselves, etc., but just worth noting that he is at best unproven in that area. Coming into the shark-infested recruiting waters in which Tennessee swims, that is a concern.
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That's honestly a positive to me. You take a coach who doesn't need top 10-15 classes to win then hand him top 20 classes he can recruit in his sleep because of the power T & our facilities and see what he can do.

Butch's highest rated class at CMU and Cinci was 47th in 2011. He pulled in a 4th ranked class in 2015 and his lowest rated class was 25th in his first one here, the rest were all top 20 or better. I think Campbell could take current talent and coach them up and then he'd be able to recruit here just fine, especially if he's able to turn out 8+ wins early in his tenure.

My bigger concern with him is does he even want to coach in the SEC, he's making great money at Iowa State (3.5 million a year +) and if he manages to win the Big 12 this season will cement his legacy where he is.
 
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LA Vol said:
Shrout, Bailey and Salter will give us three solid options for next year. UT still hopes to bring in a transfer, but we should be much stronger at QB next year. We could've been stronger this year... but spilt milk.
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You misspelled Pruitt. Autocorrect?
 
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Dudley Smith said:
One thing on Matt Campbell (beyond what is supposedly an enormous buyout) that gives me pause is that he has never had a recruiting class ranked higher than #46, and is currently sitting at #51 for 2021. I know that's at Iowa State, and Tennessee recruits itself, winning and players in the NFL speak for themselves, etc., but just worth noting that he is at best unproven in that area. Coming into the shark-infested recruiting waters in which Tennessee swims, that is a concern.
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He's young and the brief snippets of him that I've seen seems like he has some charisma. I could see him being a really good recruiter at a bigger job. You're right, he's just not going to be high in the recruiting rankings because he's at Iowa St.

The biggest thing with Campbell is also an issue with Freeze...people have a tendency to remember the big games he's won and forget the bad losses. He's had several bad losses, or games that were close that had no business being close. His resume is built on a relatively small number of wins against high profile programs; he's just a handful of games above .500 at Iowa St overall.

But he's also been at Iowa St, just like Freeze was at Ole Miss...you have to consider the relative standing of the programs that they've coached at too.
 
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[QUOTE="MoCo_Vol, post: 19053280, member: 73842"
So it's a weird dynamic, ultimately whoever made the call to stick with JG needs to be gone. Because Saturday showed us one thing, JT who is a 3rd year guy here at UT is without question more capable of running that offense than JG. Maybe that's why he's rarely seen the field? Trot out Maurer who may appear "fun" but is ultimately pretty bad at this point in his career. Makes it easier to say "we got no one else!" if the backup is worse than the starter.[/QUOTE]

Fix the dynamic and we'll be better at QB. UT has a lot of problems, but that one has been fixable all along. Anyone who watched practice last year knew Shrout had a higher ceiling than others.
 
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Atlanta VOL said:
Ain’t no way I am gonna read through all these posts since Friday 😂

Was great seeing my man Ob this weekend though no matter the outcome of the game!
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So what was Hugh like? You think he will be a good fit? Or did you visit with Chadwell? Campbell? Napier?
 
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LA Vol said:
Seriously? You don't think having a QB who can make quick reads, connect with WRs and take care of the football makes a difference? Then I guess you don't think QB TOs leading to points for the other team cost us games this year, either?
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I think I want whatever makes Pruitt go away. Then I will worry about good QB play.
 
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