Where do you stand on Healthcare?

How do you feel about the healthcare currently provided in the US?

  • It’s perfect the way it is. No changes necessary.

  • I like our system but it needs some tweaking.

  • I like the idea of our system but it has gotten much too expensive and needs major reform.

  • I think the format for providing healthcare is flawed and it needs rebuilt from the ground up.

  • Other

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#104
#104
Y9 Vol said:
If you do not think that is a HUGE part of the issue, continue to use the VA.
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No. The issue is for profit healthcare and a middleman insurance system that has created such a convoluted and confusing system it’s created admin costs higher than any country and padded profits.
 
#105
#105
hog88 said:
A limited few could dump enough income into an HSA to effectively pay zero income taxes.
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So? If I want to put my entire paycheck into an HSA/ROTH IRA or whatever savings vehicle I want I should be allowed to do it. You must use HSA monies to fund medical expenses. If you have a million in there and need all of that, then you should be allowed to have it tax free. I hate the .gov limiting how much I can save.

And these things are NEVER indexed. In 20 years, $10,000 is nothing.
 
#107
#107
hog88 said:
What other essentials should the .gov take control of? Housing, clothing, food?
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I realize I'm in the small minority here that think this, but yes, I think we should eliminate homelessness. I'm not sure I think that more than 3 hots and a cot should be provided, but they should taken care of. Probably this would lessen the burden on our healthcare system too.
 
#108
#108
jvol1 said:
I realize I'm in the small minority here that think this, but yes, I think we should eliminate homelessness. I'm not sure I think that more than 3 hots and a cot should be provided, but they should taken care of. Probably this would lessen the burden on our healthcare system too.
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That requires serious moves in adjustable housing and mental health care. From working with my local govt on those I can tell you they are definitely not a priority (unless it's an election year)
 
#109
#109
USMC-TNVOL said:
No. The issue is for profit healthcare and a middleman insurance system that has created such a convoluted and confusing system it’s created admin costs higher than any country and padded profits.
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For profit healthcare has given us medical breakthroughs and the best treatment and diagnostic capability in the world.

Medicare/Medicaid is just government playing the evil middleman.
 
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#110
#110
SpaceCoastVol said:
So? If I want to put my entire paycheck into an HSA/ROTH IRA or whatever savings vehicle I want I should be allowed to do it. You must use HSA monies to fund medical expenses. If you have a million in there and need all of that, then you should be allowed to have it tax free. I hate the .gov limiting how much I can save.

And these things are NEVER indexed. In 20 years, $10,000 is nothing.
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I'm fine with putting whatever you want in the accounts, I just think there should be a limit on how much should be 100% deductible.

Edit: and I meant 10k per year 100% tax deductible.
 
#111
#111
utvolpj said:
That requires serious moves in adjustable housing and mental health care. From working with my local govt on those I can tell you they are definitely not a priority (unless it's an election year)
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The government used to take care of homeless people by the way of mental health institutions. I remember a huge institution in Knoxville called East Tennessee State. At some point in time we deemed places like this unnecessary and closed them only to release the people that were inside to a world they weren't prepared for.
 
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#112
#112
OHvol40 said:
There are always exceptions. The point is there is no trend that Canadians rush to the US for healthcare for any reason. Nor do any other nationalities. In developed countries healthcare services are basically using the same procedures and same technologies. The difference is in the US you pay much more.
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If you’re going to point out differences how about both sides of the coin?

Outside the US you wait much longer - especially in any country with socialized medicine.
 
#113
#113
hog88 said:
For profit healthcare has given us medical breakthroughs and the best treatment and diagnostic capability in the world.

Medicare/Medicaid is just government playing the evil middleman.
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Do you have the same healthcare your employees have?
 
#115
#115
VolStrom said:
The government used to take care of homeless people by the way of mental health institutions. I remember a huge institution in Knoxville called East Tennessee State. At some point in time we deemed places like this unnecessary and closed them only to release the people that were inside to a world they weren't prepared for.
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I thought East Tennessee State was in Johnson City 🤔
 
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#117
VolStrom said:
I'm curious, if you or a family member got sick vs an employee, who would fair better? Which one would have the financial means to power through cancer?
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I've had 2 employees battle cancer and both came out ok financially.

I also have had 1 employee be vented due to Covid, he was out of work for right at 2 months. The relief bill only required us to pay 80 hours, the guy never missed a paycheck.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
No. The issue is for profit healthcare and a middleman insurance system that has created such a convoluted and confusing system it’s created admin costs higher than any country and padded profits.
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The extra expenses are to cover the forced care of the uninsured...period.
 
#123
#123
hog88 said:
For profit healthcare has given us medical breakthroughs and the best treatment and diagnostic capability in the world.

Medicare/Medicaid is just government playing the evil middleman.
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I’d like to see a list of all the breakthroughs through for profit companies vs universities/governments.

Pharmaceuticals can remain for profit but they’re known for price gouging in the US while writing off commercials on taxes. Also, us taxpayers subsidize a good portion of pharmacy research, so how much of that is paid by us while they take in their profits and give big bonuses to their top guys?

Having a sole insurance provider grants a lot of purchasing power because hospitals would have to go through one source. Additionally, profits are not built in.
 
#125
#125
USMC-TNVOL said:
I’d like to see a list of all the breakthroughs through for profit companies vs universities/governments.

Pharmaceuticals can remain for profit but they’re known for price gouging in the US while writing off commercials on taxes. Also, us taxpayers subsidize a good portion of pharmacy research, so how much of that is paid by us while they take in their profits and give big bonuses to their top guys?

Having a sole insurance provider grants a lot of purchasing power because hospitals would have to go through one source. Additionally, profits are not built in.
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You do know that for profit companies give research grants to universities don't you?

Can you name the last medical breakthrough a government researcher made?
 
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