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Batman1948 said:
Not this time----maybe next year but not this year.
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i don't disagree. siap...he'll be back next year, i believe that is what happens.

just that if the right folks all got on the same page, that wouldn't stop them. it is not gonna get to that point though.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Also, why in the world would this place be a target destination for any transfer worth a damn?

Changing your strategy to depending on transfers - especially when you're a two-win team with a lame-duck coach, is malpractice.
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Yeah, why are they going to choose here? Why not LSU or Miss St that both have tons of spots open?
 
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jakez4ut said:
and that is the real problem in dealing with the transfer market.....it will take right situations/circumstances lining up for us to do well in it....on the both sides of it...those that may transfer out, and trying to get some in...........
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Transfers are always a gamble, but other schools have done better with them than UT. There are two separate scenarios in play-- plugging in a few select transfers to bolster key positions vs. adding transfers to fill the class. One's Plan A; the other's Plan B.
 
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LA Vol said:
They've always planned on making room for a few transfers in this class. But the churn they're getting isn't the churn they wanted.
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I've talked to a couple of small school coaches, and they are really feeling the pinch. Way more guys they figured would want to graduate and get out are deciding to stay.

I wonder if that's the case all over the country.
 
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LA Vol said:
Transfers are always a gamble, but other schools have done better with them than UT. There are two separate scenarios in play-- plugging in a few select transfers to bolster key positions vs. adding transfers to fill the class. One's Plan A; the other's Plan B.
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Plan C Hire Freeze and Vols avg over 40 points a game with current players next year
 
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jakez4ut said:
yeah, cause TX has been knocking it out of the park with all the decisions they've been making the past 15 years.....
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To be fair, Texas at least tries to get the big names, both Herman and Strong were highly coveted at the time of the hire. They just didn't pan out there.

We get coaches that no other high tier P5 wants and act surprised when they don't work.
 
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Batman1948 said:
I believe Osovet can do it better. All he needs is a chance and if Tennessee doesn't give him his due, someone else will and I hope it's not in the SEC
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It seems at times the legend of Osovet has reached Rod Wilks status. It's logical to assume that since CJP doesn't utilize him more that Osovet really isn't anything special. But then there is the whole JG situation (among others) so you can't trust CJP's decision making with personnel. So I agree, give the man a shot.
 
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Let's dig that hole a little deeper so we can get out easier. Whatever. None of the players going or coming is going to matter with the leadership and coaching that is there.

Losing does not beget success. It is not a necessary part of the process to winning. Have we not learned that in over a dozen years yet? In fact, other than for an occasional wake-up call purpose, it does the opposite because it become the definition of a team's culture. Then the on-field lack of discipline shows up and then the off-field lack of discipline shows up and then the nasty local media shows up and then recruiting gets worse and the cycle continues on and on. Then UT responds with Coach McGoogle and the hype begins only to repeat the cycle. They cannot and should not allow this to continue one day past Saturday.

Cubbie fans - did you really like being known as the "lovable losers" all those years? Some may, most didn't. So when ownership finally had their fill of it they went out hired the very best in the business at the time - Theo Epstein - away from the Red Sox, who had recently won their first WS in forever with Theo at the helm as well. Theo did what Theo does. They hired the best, gave him control and money, he orchestrated the rest. They got their new tradition of winning and a WS ring. They like it now and don't want to go back to being lovable losers again. They learned you make much more money and are happier when you win consistently.

That's how it is done when your program has become mediocre to bottom feeder - like the Vols have been for some time. Cumulatively, the Vols are like 3 games under .500 since Fulmer's last, terminated season. Up and down, but under the mediocre (Mendoza for baseball fans) line.

Preaching to the choir for some of you, but the hole digging has got to stop first. Then they need call in elite professionals to get out of the hole next. That will cost money and pride. We are not the Tennessee of old anymore. Many of the players were not even alive when we were on top. They were too young to know when we still did some good things after the mountain top.

If Texas hires Urban - we all know where they are headed. The same exists with the SEC top programs - they hired the best proven HC's available. If we want in we have to change from top down. Otherwise we are just pizzin' into the wind and stay the unlovable losers and legions of the miserable.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Also, why in the world would this place be a target destination for any transfer worth a damn?

Changing your strategy to depending on transfers - especially when you're a two-win team with a lame-duck coach, is malpractice.
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A lot of things this staff is doing is baffling. I would
Much rather take a talented freshmen than gamble on a transfer. Only transfer I would take is a QB such as Milton if he were to leave UCF.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
If we won’t hire Freeze, go ahead and fire Pruitt and hire Herman. I’m willing to see how he would do here.
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High floor guy with no buyout. I think he would actually deliver about what most of us think is UT's ceiling...9-4/10-3ish seasons with occasional upcycles to 11-2 and a chance to play in ATL.
 
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Aesius said:
High floor guy with no buyout. I think he would actually deliver about what most of us think is UT's ceiling...9-4ish seasons with occasional upcycles to 10-2 and a chance to play in ATL.
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TN’s ceiling is national champions. Give us 9-11 wins a year with hope going into every season we could win it all if everything goes right. That’s what TN should always be
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I've talked to a couple of small school coaches, and they are really feeling the pinch. Way more guys they figured would want to graduate and get out are deciding to stay.

I wonder if that's the case all over the country.
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It's affecting EEs, too. Between that and extending eligibility, roster management and spring sports are going to be interesting.
 
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