2020 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
Are you suggesting that the amount of debt that someone owed, before they got into politics should be regarded as a matter of significance? That's interesting. Are you consistent in this belief?
According to an article entitled "Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested," by Dan Alexander which was published in Forbes on October 16, 2020, Donald Trump has over $1 billion in debt. This article provided an itemized break down of this debt, which includes but is not limited to, money borrowed against the following 10 properties:

1) 1290 Avenue of the Americas

Trump owes: $285 million
The creditor: Unclear
It's due: November 2022

2) Trump International Hotel, Washington D.C.

Trump owes: $170 million
The creditor: Deutsche Bank
It's due: September 2024 (this is a variable interest rate loan)

3) 555 California Street

Trump owes: $162 million
The creditor: Unclear
It's due: September 2021 (5.1% interest rate)

4) 40 Wall Street

Trump owes: $138 million
The creditor: Ladder Capital
It's due: July 6, 2025 (3.665% interest rate)

5) Trump National Doral

Trump owes: $125 million
The creditor: Deutsche Bank
It's due: December 2023 (this is a variable interest rate loan)

6) Trump Tower

Trump owes: $100 million
The creditor: Ladder Capital
It's due: September 6, 2022 (4.2% interest rate)

7) Trump International Hotel & Tower (Chicago)

Trump owes: $75 million
The creditor: Deutsche Bank and Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC
It's due: December 2024 for part of it, unclear on other parts (variable interest rate loan)

8) Trump Plaza

Trump owes: $13 million
The creditor: Ladder Capital
It's due: July 6, 2024 (3.85% interest rate)

9) Trump Park Avenue

Trump owes: $10 million
The creditor: Investors Savings Bank
It's due: December 2020 (3.25% interest rate)

10) Trump National Golf Club, Washington D.C.

Trump owes: $7 million
The creditor: Chevy Chase Trust Holdings
It's due: January 2029 (5.5% interest rate)
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President, billionaire and married to a model, yet he is the loser compared to a banker boy who pulls dildoes out of a SD box...LMAO
 
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Roustabout said:
You’d ha e to define “legitimate.” If changing the rules in opposition of the state constitution is ruled “legal,” then it’s technically legit. If you can’t prove votes were harvested, the. How can you discount them?

Apparently, a foreign entity interfering and shaping narratives is wrong. Media interfering and shaping narratives is good.
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"Media interfering and shaping narratives . . ."? Are you talking about Fox? They're never worried about the truth so you must be.

"Changing the rules in opposition of the state constitution"? I have to assume you're talking about Pennsylvania. If so, that change to mail-in ballots was done a year before the election and was passed by a REPUBLICAN controlled legislature.

You guys just can't handle it when Republicans try to change the rules to steal the election and it backfires.
 
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Orangeburst said:
President, billionaire and married to a model, yet he is the loser compared to a banker boy who pulls dildoes out of a SD box...LMAO
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He is the loser in reference to the 2020 Presidential election.

We are definitely seeing a shift in tone from the "Trumpets" on here... I think they are moving on from denial and making their way into anger in the 5 stages of grief.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He is the loser in reference to the 2020 Presidential election.

We are definitely seeing a shift in tone from the "Trumpets" on here... I think they are moving on from denial and making their way into anger in the 5 stages of grief.
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You cannot even differntiate between Trump and the nation. Not even sure you can support what Biden stands for, other than he is not Trump. ****ing pathetic
 
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luthervol said:
Why is Trump coming to GA and why are repubs spending millions on negative ads?
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Why did people that are otherwise too ignorant and lazy to vote do so this year? I guess it’s easy to be “inspired” when it requires zero effort on your part.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I have trouble understanding why anyone takes her seriously. Why is it that we ignore the quality individuals in politics and the dumbass get the publicity?
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Political campaigns are about advertising and not about substance. You can sell people that you will make student debt go away, you can increase handouts, and so on; but you can't get into the details on how to make it happen because there are people who would then start to ask uncomfortable questions. It's all about the veneer and none about the rotten core under the thin veneer. Those of us who deal in substance tend to care about what's under the shiny surface. I'd bet you care about what goes under what you build even if the buyer doesn't ask. Our campaigns are catered to those people who look at the cover without asking what's inside ... the ones who are surprised when something collapses like a house of cards because they never looked deeper.
 
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PointGuard said:
Yeah but they can’t prove it because it’s not true
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PointGuard said:
Yeah but they can’t prove it because it’s not true
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There sure is a lot of smoke. I don’t care either way as long as the senate is maintained. I think the Joe gaffes will be entertaining and after people see how radical the idiots on the left are and file taxes a couple times they’ll probably be begging for a Trump 2024.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
The State Legislators have made the changes. What governors made changes? The only governor that made changes that I recall was Abbot in Texas.

Edit: Didn't Newsome make changes too?
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I believe the issue being raised is that the ballot drop boxes were enacted by a state election committee, and not the legislature.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Trump claimed until the night of the 2016 election that it was rigged. He said it at least as often as he did this year. He's such a thin skinned, self serving p'u'ssy that he still had to have the popular vote investigated, even though it didn't matter.
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And the result was his commission found there was no fraud and he did lose the popular vote by 3 million votes

A mentally ill man has wreaked havoc on this country and every Republican in office has stood by and permitted it

Greatest country that used to be on earth
 
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Wisconsin's completed recount confirms Biden's victory over Trump - CNNPolitics

President-elect Joe Biden's victory over President Donald Trump in Wisconsin was reaffirmed on Sunday after a recount was completed in one of the state's largest counties.
The recount in Dane County, which was requested by the Trump campaign, showed Biden won by 181,340 votes after the recount as the President-elect's lead narrowed by 45 votes. The completed recount, along with Friday's recount in Milwaukee County, leaves Biden poised to be the certified winner when the Wisconsin Elections Commission certifies the state's election results on Tuesday.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I believe the issue being raised is that the ballot drop boxes were enacted by a state election committee, and not the legislature.
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One problem I've had is why ballot drop boxes at all. Why not just mail the ballots back - mail fraud because voters aren't who they appeared to be?
 
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