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Thing that concerns me is how Pruitt ties to act like Nick without the resume to back it up. Staff turnover and firing coaches mid season are big red flags. However, you need to play this smart for once as an AD. Knowing Calbert and Bailey missing 28 days and contract tracing Nazi’s I K town makes Pruitt’s situation not the same as a lot of the competition. We had development since he’s been here till this year when most of his guys are young. Other teams had veteran players who could miss spring and didn’t need the S and C and hands on work. You start a freshman and in a 10 game all SEC schedule even more so, expect a loss. Covid really could have a more damaging effect in a MAJOR rebuild like this. We were lucky to win 8 games last year AND I do think a dynamic QB could make a difference.

Regardless, Pruitt has a lot of growing to do. But this class with a highly rated QB coming in could be a third solid class to build upon. You fire the coach today and you see the top half of that get blown up regardless of who you hire.

Smart thing is every month Pruitt is here the buyout goes down plus in February, Jones is off books. Don’t fire a coach with early signing day approaching. Wait a month and see how many he gets to sign. If they bail on us and a lot would if you fire him now, with no visits and top players already signed, you go from a top 15 to a 60th and you can’t afford to only have 2 decent classes in the last 5 years. Once sign they could still leave BUT it would give a brand new coach a chance to sell his vision.

One thing VERY different with Pruitt than Butch and I like this a lot. He really cares about these kids. At times, maybe too much to his detriment. I think he sees Mauer and knows the suicide thoughts down to having written his suicide notes and that’s affected Pruitt greatly. It’s understandable and he didn’t want to see him get blown up and shaken or at worse. a major injury. Protecting the kid despite seeing JG. He’s a stubborn man but he’s also stubborn enough to carry it in his shoulders and failing if need be to protect these kids. He’s rough and says stupid things but he cares about his players.

I am hoping he trust his guys to protect Bailey and I’ve seen enough to where I would let him play. But maybe game 3, we would’ve seen a different Bailey who really wasn’t ready.

Smart thing for an AD is just let it play out. Do not get in a hurry. See what happens with ESD and look at it after January 1. Unless we can get an established power 5 coach who could keep this class together and guarantee success like a Peterson or Meyer, just wait a few months and make a good decision with as many facts as possible. The Billy Napier’s of the world will still be there. But if this class and team sinks the next couple of months then pull the trigger.
I wish I could say I agree but I cant. Pruitt has a long list of bad losses and not really any wins of note. He hasn't been close at all in any games with the big 3. We are missing out on top targets left and right and just had one of our top DB targets de commit. Pruitt also has poorly handled the QB situation in failing to get a grad transfer or better option in the last two years which would make Bailey being out less of an issue. Also for all his credit as an elite DB couch our secondary has been painfully awful. We are coming off of 5 straight double digit losses and fan apathy is going to continue to rise after getting blasted two more times. Add all this to the issues from within about the contracts and Pruitts arrogance and its time to do what needs to be done. Keeping Pruitt will only set us back farther once again after a 6 at best win season next year.
 
Why wait? We've all seen enough. From each angle - both decision/process-oriented and results-oriented.

Butch was +196 points after 3 seasons
Pruitt is currently -108 and only going to get worse. What else do we need to see? And for anyone still pulling the Dabo card, he was +278 during the same span, in the positive every year.

If a coach has been outscored after 3 seasons and is trending downward...what chance is there he's going to be successful long-term?
Updated for Dooley


Scoring margin through 3 seasons:
Kiffin (1 yr) +92
Dooley +4
CBJ +196
Pruitt -108
 
Thing that concerns me is how Pruitt ties to act like Nick without the resume to back it up. Staff turnover and firing coaches mid season are big red flags. However, you need to play this smart for once as an AD. Knowing Calbert and Bailey missing 28 days and contract tracing Nazi’s I K town makes Pruitt’s situation not the same as a lot of the competition. We had development since he’s been here till this year when most of his guys are young. Other teams had veteran players who could miss spring and didn’t need the S and C and hands on work. You start a freshman and in a 10 game all SEC schedule even more so, expect a loss. Covid really could have a more damaging effect in a MAJOR rebuild like this. We were lucky to win 8 games last year AND I do think a dynamic QB could make a difference.

Regardless, Pruitt has a lot of growing to do. But this class with a highly rated QB coming in could be a third solid class to build upon. You fire the coach today and you see the top half of that get blown up regardless of who you hire.

Smart thing is every month Pruitt is here the buyout goes down plus in February, Jones is off books. Don’t fire a coach with early signing day approaching. Wait a month and see how many he gets to sign. If they bail on us and a lot would if you fire him now, with no visits and top players already signed, you go from a top 15 to a 60th and you can’t afford to only have 2 decent classes in the last 5 years. Once sign they could still leave BUT it would give a brand new coach a chance to sell his vision.

One thing VERY different with Pruitt than Butch and I like this a lot. He really cares about these kids. At times, maybe too much to his detriment. I think he sees Mauer and knows the suicide thoughts down to having written his suicide notes and that’s affected Pruitt greatly. It’s understandable and he didn’t want to see him get blown up and shaken or at worse. a major injury. Protecting the kid despite seeing JG. He’s a stubborn man but he’s also stubborn enough to carry it in his shoulders and failing if need be to protect these kids. He’s rough and says stupid things but he cares about his players.

I am hoping he trust his guys to protect Bailey and I’ve seen enough to where I would let him play. But maybe game 3, we would’ve seen a different Bailey who really wasn’t ready.

Smart thing for an AD is just let it play out. Do not get in a hurry. See what happens with ESD and look at it after January 1. Unless we can get an established power 5 coach who could keep this class together and guarantee success like a Peterson or Meyer, just wait a few months and make a good decision with as many facts as possible. The Billy Napier’s of the world will still be there. But if this class and team sinks the next couple of months then pull the trigger.

So if the recruiting class starts falling apart, there is absolutely no reason to keep him around. Correct?
 
Why do people keep bringing up Butch's 2017 class, then?
2018 was just as bad and 2016 was already a step down. It wasn't just that one class.

But mostly just so it can excuse CJP's performance...but we can now see beyond that. Give Freeze "just" top 20 classes and you'll see wins.
 
Bob_Vols on 247 replying to McGhee decom:

That one hurts. Get use to it. I think we lose several more before signing day. I’ll actually be really interested in who actually signs on Dec 16th. Very few imo

That’s one reason I have said let the season play out. This is going to get much worse before it gets better if Pruitt is the coach next season. There will be recruits, transfers and coaches leave. Buckle up it’s going to be a ride.
 
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If they really do plan on Pruitt returning in 2021 then why hasn’t Fulmer made a statement knowing the current climate? He better soon if that’s the plan. I know it’s been discussed about the possibility of him not returning. Financials have been looked at. They may have no choice but to bring him back but they aren’t sitting around with their heads in the sand.
 
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