2020 Presidential Race

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volinsd said:
Why would you not overturn an election that is a lie? IF PROVEN

Explain why you would be against that?
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Already gone round and round on this.

The process is running its course. There have been recounts and audits with no credible evidence of widespread fraud found.

The Trump admin knows this. That’s why they finally relented and started the transition process.

Trump will never make a public concession and pout all the way to Jan 20. And that’s fine. His actions speak more about him than anything else.

But hey! You go ahead and keep donating to that fight fund. Time is running out for the bombshell evidence and they need your hard earned dollars to reveal it.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Most of these idiots believe you're a liberal if you don't support Trump, and Trump is anything but a staunch conservative
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And on the flip side, if you once sided with the Tea Party’s message of fiscal sanity against Obama’s reckless deficit spending you were called a racist.

Partisan idiots are partisan idiots.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I don’t believe polls or surveys..... I do believe, however, that voters don’t have a clue what they are voting for.
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Gimmicky slick campaign advertising, and the belief or disbelief in liberalism vs what we used to be. The actual candidate is secondary to how he/she is portrayed. Even "debates" are just staged appearances rather than actual debates about substance.
 
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Stew Cook said:
She was hacked, obviously, and someone changed the spelling, hoping to have it dismissed.

This only demonstrates how afraid the powerful conspirators are of the truth coming out.
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Careful. Somebody could believe you saw the light and went over to the dark side.
 
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1972 Grad said:
The reason "tax cuts fall short of revenue needed to fund your spending" is totally due to too much spending. Tax cuts don't cause a reduction in revenue.
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Sorry for the delay, my aunt did pass on. My responses will be sparse.

You omitted a bit of my post, I do believe. I said plainly that cutting spending was one way to offset the deficit. But it would take ample cuts and that would have a slowing effect on the economy.

It's why, even though trump and the right had control, they never cut spending. It wasn't just coincidence.

But with Biden being elected, no doubt they'll suddenly remember their conservativism. Which would be fine for the right reasons. Along with Mnuchin moving the small business loan funds under senate controI, have a feeling we'll see a slower than necessary recovery.
Unfortunately, *nothing* is more important, to either side, than building their case for 2024.
 
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chargervol said:
Sorry for the delay, my aunt did pass on. My responses will be sparse.

You omitted a bit of my post, I do believe. I said plainly that cutting spending was one way to offset the deficit. But it would take ample cuts and that would have a slowing effect on the economy.

It's why, even though trump and the right had control, they never cut spending. It wasn't just coincidence.

But with Biden being elected, no doubt they'll suddenly remember their conservativism. Which would be fine for the right reasons. Along with Mnuchin moving the small business loan funds under senate controI, have a feeling we'll see a slower than necessary recovery.
Unfortunately, *nothing* is more important, to either side, than building their case for 2024.
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Sorry for your loss, charger.
 
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chargervol said:
Sorry for the delay, my aunt did pass on. My responses will be sparse.

You omitted a bit of my post, I do believe. I said plainly that cutting spending was one way to offset the deficit. But it would take ample cuts and that would have a slowing effect on the economy.

It's why, even though trump and the right had control, they never cut spending. It wasn't just coincidence.

But with Biden being elected, no doubt they'll suddenly remember their conservativism. Which would be fine for the right reasons. Along with Mnuchin moving the small business loan funds under senate controI, have a feeling we'll see a slower than necessary recovery.
Unfortunately, *nothing* is more important, to either side, than building their case for 2024.
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Prayers brother. Hoping your family can find some peace and grace this holiday season.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Oh I agree. Gridlock is ideal.

If I could change one thing it would be that you have to have a co-sponsore from the opposite party to brig a bill for consideration. Regardless of who was in control.
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That and legislation couldn't have any riders, addenda, poison pills, etc attached to the original bill. Legislation should be limited to one narrowly defined topic; it gets a vote up or down on it's own merits rather than passing with garbage attachments or killed because of poison pills.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Masks don't work. That's what you want to believe. And the numerous studies that show that areas who implemented them have substantially lower infection rates are just "fake news."

But whatever.. go steam up the all you can eat prime rib counter window
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There seems to be plenty of medical evidence that appropriate masks do work, but there are a lot of people walking around with garbage masks and improperly used masks. It strengthens my opinion that most people could screw up a cast iron anvil with a little rubber hammer.
 
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AM64 said:
That and legislation couldn't have any riders, addenda, poison pills, etc attached to the original bill. Legislation should be limited to one narrowly defined topic; it gets a vote up or down on it's own merits rather than passing with garbage attachments or killed because of poison pills.
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Yes
Basic common sense stuff.
 
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VolnJC said:
So a Dem admits the deep state exists
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Doubtless there needs to be a hard look at what government decides to classify. It can very well be a tool to protect the state, but there has always been strong reasoning behind the need to classify sensitive topics as secrets that have to be protected. Tulsi is a breath of fresh air, but Assange and especially Snowden deserve to be fried along with the girly boi. None of them had the right and certainly not the credentials to unlock secrets that could harm US citizens, allies, or our national defense. Treason needs to be prosecuted, and it can't be done in open court. The threat of divulging secrets in open court is the one thing that has spared many treasonous slugs from prosecution. There are times when Clintoncide is justified.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
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Already gone round and round on this.

The process is running its course. There have been recounts and audits with no credible evidence of widespread fraud found.

The Trump admin knows this. That’s why they finally relented and started the transition process.

Trump will never make a public concession and pout all the way to Jan 20. And that’s fine. His actions speak more about him than anything else.

But hey! You go ahead and keep donating to that fight fund. Time is running out for the bombshell evidence and they need your hard earned dollars to reveal it.
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Exactly right. There are no circumstances under which Trump would ever lose an election without blaming it completely on fraud.
 
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Vol737 said:
Always thought Trump should’ve taken Nikki Haley. Don’t know if Trump will really want to do it again in four years, but Tulsi would steal a lot of votes from a Dem ticket especially if Kamala can get sleepy, sniffing Joe removed.
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Can you even imagine what kind of disturbance in the force a Nikki/Tulsi GOP ticket would cause? I'm not even sure how I feel about something like that, but it would definitely be entertaining.
 
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AM64 said:
Can you even imagine what kind of disturbance in the force a Nikki/Tulsi GOP ticket would cause? I'm not even sure how I feel about something like that, but it would definitely be entertaining.
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Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. That's my dream ticket.
 
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