What happens if Harrison Bailey transfers out after this year.

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Roustabout said:
I don’t think either had a commitible offer.
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I know for a fact that one did. Ohio State tried extremely hard to land BM even after the Mathis flip. But Brian told them just as he did every other school that he won’t be one of two qbs from the same class.
 
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1vol8 said:
If Pruitt is still there after this season (which I suspect he will be) that leaves a lot to consider even if JG does or doesn’t move on. There’s more than meets the eye going on and that’s why I’m not ready to say Brian has “regressed”. What I will say is when I talk to him I’m confident that Pruitt has taken the “fun” out of the game for him. I can hear it in his voice. We’ve seen him twice at this point. He was poised against Alabama and rattled against Arkansas. I have a hard time believing that HB would’ve looked any better if he’d been put in at that point of the game facing a 0 blitz vs the end when they were playing prevent and giving up the underneath. So I’m not agreeing that he’s “looked better”. My opinion is he’s been given more favorable circumstances.
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Pruitt is doing the same crap to Bailey as he did to Maurer last season.

Because it's no fun to Brian THAT IS WHY he's regressing. How can get any better with the BS Pruitt is pulling?

And for him to stick around is a death sentence for his football career. Bailey might not stick around either. But Pruitt is absolutely ruining Brian Maurer. I wanted to throw hot coffee in Pruitt's facefor that BS statement he made about if they beat Auburn it would be because Brian's scout team work. MFer!! Brian in his first start throws for 260 yards a 2 td in the first half against the top defense in college and a year later he's NOT even traveling with the team??? AYFKM??? Meanwhile Goods Gaurantano continues to literally "throw the game" every week!! And it's not on purpose. JG just sucks!! It's SO OBVIOUS at this point J Pruitt gives zero effs about UT. He just wants to collect the buyout.

2 weeks at another college and Brian Maurer will be right again.
It's not some conspiracy. Jeremy Pruitt will lose every game...EVERY GAME here on out until he is fired.

I also have confidence Brian can go toe to toe with Bailey in a fair competition. But really he just needs to say "eff it" and move on.

I have a saying-
" Don't do a rain dance on concrete"
Just my opinion @1vol8 , but Brian and his circle need to be Proactive and not Reactive to his current situation.
 
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LittleVol said:
Pruitt is doing the same crap to Bailey as he did to Maurer last season.

Because it's no fun to Brian THAT IS WHY he's regressing. How can get any better with the BS Pruitt is pulling?

And for him to stick around is a death sentence for his football career. Bailey might not stick around either. But Pruitt is absolutely ruining Brian Maurer. I wanted to throw hot coffee in Pruitt's facefor that BS statement he made about if they beat Auburn it would be because Brian's scout team work. MFer!! Brian in his first start throws for 260 yards a 2 td in the first half against the top defense in college and a year later he's NOT even traveling with the team??? AYFKM??? Meanwhile Goods Gaurantano continues to literally "throw the game" every week!! And it's not on purpose. JG just sucks!! It's SO OBVIOUS at this point J Pruitt gives zero effs about UT. He just wants to collect the buyout.

2 weeks at another college and Brian Maurer will be right again.
It's not some conspiracy. Jeremy Pruitt will lose every game...EVERY GAME here on out until he is fired.

I also have confidence Brian can go toe to toe with Bailey in a fair competition. But really he just needs to say "eff it" and move on.

I have a saying-
" Don't do a rain dance on concrete"
Just my opinion @1vol8 , but Brian and his circle need to be Proactive and not Reactive to his current situation.
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Trust me when I tell you that everything you just said is being taken into consideration and it’s like you took the thoughts right out of head.
 
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LittleVol said:
Pruitt is doing the same crap to Bailey as he did to Maurer last season.

Because it's no fun to Brian THAT IS WHY he's regressing. How can get any better with the BS Pruitt is pulling?

And for him to stick around is a death sentence for his football career. Bailey might not stick around either. But Pruitt is absolutely ruining Brian Maurer. I wanted to throw hot coffee in Pruitt's facefor that BS statement he made about if they beat Auburn it would be because Brian's scout team work. MFer!! Brian in his first start throws for 260 yards a 2 td in the first half against the top defense in college and a year later he's NOT even traveling with the team??? AYFKM??? Meanwhile Goods Gaurantano continues to literally "throw the game" every week!! And it's not on purpose. JG just sucks!! It's SO OBVIOUS at this point J Pruitt gives zero effs about UT. He just wants to collect the buyout.

2 weeks at another college and Brian Maurer will be right again.
It's not some conspiracy. Jeremy Pruitt will lose every game...EVERY GAME here on out until he is fired.

I also have confidence Brian can go toe to toe with Bailey in a fair competition. But really he just needs to say "eff it" and move on.

I have a saying-
" Don't do a rain dance on concrete"
Just my opinion @1vol8 , but Brian and his circle need to be Proactive and not Reactive to his current situation.
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Btw.... glad you’re back.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Accoding to rockytop talk Mauer got pissed when Mathis was brought in the same weekend....and even tho BM out performed him. He decides on UT when mathis fliped from MI
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Ryan Day wanted Maurer over Mathis but Urban wanted to honor the resources that had already been spent on Mathis and therefore excepted his commitment. But rest assured he couldn’t get to a phone fast enough to call Brian and try and convince him to come as well. Urban still keeps in contact to this day.
 
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1vol8 said:
Trust me when I tell you that everything you just said is being taken into consideration and it’s like you took the thoughts right out of head.
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He super stoked about being left on campus for the Auburn game?
 
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99gator said:
There’s a possibility that’s even more frightening than the thought of transfer.

What if he isn’t any good?
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He'd be the 1st out of Watson, Fields, Frohm and Lawrence who produced at his level in GA high school football that turned out to be no good. With his pedigree I think it's more likely he is good than not. Only history will tell, I'm betting that he's going to be really good just as those 4 before him were.
 
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savannahfan said:
The No 2 playing for who with what? Playing for a staff that seems inept. Playing with guys who seem to roll over at the first sign of adversity. A school who's admin. does not show much concern. AND a fan base that has no patience with any of this disaster and like me, runs their mouth too much.:( Happy Thanksgiving.
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I think the team will play much better with HB taking the snaps. Our “fearless leader” qb rubs off on the whole team, you can just tell.
 
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1vol8 said:
Ryan Day wanted Maurer over Mathis but Urban wanted to honor the resources that had already been spent on Mathis and therefore excepted his commitment. But rest assured he couldn’t get to a phone fast enough to call Brian and try and convince him to come as well. Urban still keeps in contact to this day.
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Can’t figure out why you Both defend And promote BM so intensely... seems like dropping to scout team QB tells us what we need to know. His glory days of being recruited have long since passed and it looks like his College career is trending, well...
 
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99Vol said:
Can’t figure out why you Both defend And promote BM so intensely... seems like dropping to scout team QB tells us what we need to know. His glory days of being recruited have long since passed and it looks like his College career is trending, well...
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He was running scout because he’s the most like Bo Nix. He was also running #2 team. There’s a reason he didn’t travel that took place a couple of days before that wasn’t released to the public.
 
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99Vol said:
Can’t figure out why you Both defend And promote BM so intensely... seems like dropping to scout team QB tells us what we need to know. His glory days of being recruited have long since passed and it looks like his College career is trending, well...
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And I promote BM because UT needs a qb that’s capable of success that counter UTs weaknesses.
 
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1vol8 said:
And I promote BM because UT needs a qb that’s capable of success that counter UTs weaknesses.
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If you are looking for a QB that counters UT’s weaknesses then I don’t think BM is the guy. He is inconsistent, has not developed, and seems too small. Just not fast or elusive enough to be small and doesn’t have any pocket presence cannot be taught. On the other hand, Bailey is not too small, appears to be calm in the pocket, and seems to make the correct throws. Why not back him? Must be something more, is BM a family member?
 
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99Vol said:
If you are looking for a QB that counters UT’s weaknesses then I don’t think BM is the guy. He is inconsistent, has not developed, and seems too small. Just not fast or elusive enough to be small and doesn’t have any pocket presence cannot be taught. On the other hand, Bailey is not too small, appears to be calm in the pocket, and seems to make the correct throws. Why not back him? Must be something more, is BM a family member?
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UTs weaknesses are:
-poor o line play at times.
-poor coaching and game planning
- weak defense
- lack of halftime adjustments and
- conservativeness (which doesn’t work on a weak team that lacks defense)

counter:
-BM runs a 4.5.
- Dont know where you got he lacks pocket presence because he’s every bit as aware as HB
- he’s extremely accurate from the pocket or on the run.

As far as backing Bailey, it’s not that I’m not. I just haven’t seen enough as most of you seem to think you have. He was 1-4 vs UK and a near int. He was facing a prevent defense where Maurer faced a 0 blitz vs Arkansas. I can’t bring myself to compare the two until they are both put in equal situations. If Bailey gets the start vs UF? I’d expect him to top 260+ and 2 tds and THEN we can start comparing. Until then, Bailey hasn’t had the chance to prove anything yet.
 
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1vol8 said:
UTs weaknesses are:
-poor o line play at times.
-poor coaching and game planning
- weak defense
- lack of halftime adjustments and
- conservativeness (which doesn’t work on a weak team that lacks defense)

counter:
-BM runs a 4.5.
- Dont know where you got he lacks pocket presence because he’s every bit as aware as HB
- he’s extremely accurate from the pocket or on the run.

As far as backing Bailey, it’s not that I’m not. I just haven’t seen enough as most of you seem to think you have. He was 1-4 vs UK and a near int. He was facing a prevent defense where Maurer faced a 0 blitz vs Arkansas. I can’t bring myself to compare the two until they are both put in equal situations. If Bailey gets the start vs UF? I’d expect him to top 260+ and 2 tds and THEN we can start comparing. Until then, Bailey hasn’t had the chance to prove anything yet.
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What is BM’s completion percentage?
 
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Roustabout said:
What is BM’s completion percentage?
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2019 season:
BM- 54% (in games he was prepared to play in)
JG- 59%

Yes.... for the season in which he was thrown to the wolves without preparation he was 46% but it’s just as unfair to judge him for that as it is to judge you for not being able to compete yourself because the one thing you’d both have in common is simply a lack of preparation to do so.
 
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1vol8 said:
UTs weaknesses are:
-poor o line play at times.
-poor coaching and game planning
- weak defense
- lack of halftime adjustments and
- conservativeness (which doesn’t work on a weak team that lacks defense)

counter:
-BM runs a 4.5.
- Dont know where you got he lacks pocket presence because he’s every bit as aware as HB
- he’s extremely accurate from the pocket or on the run.

As far as backing Bailey, it’s not that I’m not. I just haven’t seen enough as most of you seem to think you have. He was 1-4 vs UK and a near int. He was facing a prevent defense where Maurer faced a 0 blitz vs Arkansas. I can’t bring myself to compare the two until they are both put in equal situations. If Bailey gets the start vs UF? I’d expect him to top 260+ and 2 tds and THEN we can start comparing. Until then, Bailey hasn’t had the chance to prove anything yet.
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Only matters how fast they run in pads, those pads look awfully heavy on him... I thought he was going to bulk up per recruiting analyst notes but seems to be on a strict diet...
Looks lost in the pockets, like he can’t see or doesn’t know what he is seeing...
As far as accuracy, doesn’t pass the eye test on the field and his stats seem to back it up at all levels of play... 2 to 1 TD to INT ration in HS is not great. Stats at UT; completion % and TD to INT ratio have, well they have dropped even further. Check out Baileys HS stats, film, and his play this year with little prep time and I think you may have a new guy...
 
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99Vol said:
Only matters how fast they run in pads, those pads look awfully heavy on him... I thought he was going to bulk up per recruiting analyst notes but seems to be on a strict diet...
Looks lost in the pockets, like he can’t see or doesn’t know what he is seeing...
As far as accuracy, doesn’t pass the eye test on the field and his stats seem to back it up at all levels of play... 2 to 1 TD to INT ration in HS is not great. Stats at UT; completion % and TD to INT ratio have, well they have dropped even further. Check out Baileys HS stats, film, and his play this year with little prep time and I think you may have a new guy...
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No.... I won’t. Not at this point. He was 1/4 and a near int vs UK in his first action as a Vol. BMs first action as a Vol he scored on the ground. In BMs first start he threw for 260 yards against the best defense in college football. Bailey has yet to get that opportunity to see if he can top it and truth be told UFs defense is a far cry from the 2019 Bulldogs if he gets a chance then. As for HS, BM averaged more yards per game throwing to below average receivers, no o line, no running back and no defense. He put up comparable numbers despite being at nearly impossible odds because of all the things I mentioned in my previous post. All I’m saying is don’t get too caught up in what we’ve seen to this point this year because no one knows chit yet. We watched Brian get chased by a 0 blitz earlier in the same that we got to see bailey face a prevent. There’s no comparison there and THATS what people are getting caught up in.
 
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1vol8 said:
UTs weaknesses are:
-poor o line play at times.
-poor coaching and game planning
- weak defense
- lack of halftime adjustments and
- conservativeness (which doesn’t work on a weak team that lacks defense)

counter:
-BM runs a 4.5.
- Dont know where you got he lacks pocket presence because he’s every bit as aware as HB
- he’s extremely accurate from the pocket or on the run.

As far as backing Bailey, it’s not that I’m not. I just haven’t seen enough as most of you seem to think you have. He was 1-4 vs UK and a near int. He was facing a prevent defense where Maurer faced a 0 blitz vs Arkansas. I can’t bring myself to compare the two until they are both put in equal situations. If Bailey gets the start vs UF? I’d expect him to top 260+ and 2 tds and THEN we can start comparing. Until then, Bailey hasn’t had the chance to prove anything yet.
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And if you objectively found Bailey to be better, you’d tell us, huh? Despite your relationship with Maurer?
 
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1vol8 said:
Yes. Seriously. Have I ever changed that stance? BM is mobile. UT needs someone that can escape right now as they have for the last three years. You can’t deny that.... no one can.
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And you’re all in for UT...what if he had accepted tOSU’s offer? Would you still want that for us?
 
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1vol8 said:
Yes. Seriously. Have I ever changed that stance? BM is mobile. UT needs someone that can escape right now as they have for the last three years. You can’t deny that.... no one can.
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His mobility nearly ended his career. I’m surprised he’s still playing, honestly.
 
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