2020 Presidential Race

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chargervol said:
He didn't do a ton of campaigning but he set up a site with fairly detailed policies, if you're really curious.



Don't worry about the heat you're getting, Trump got tons of votes, like both parties do, just because they ran for that party.

Checking out some Trump websites last night that were focused on the more violent considerations. Hell, 3/4 of the people in there didn't have a clue about actual policies.
People acting like your actions are unusual or non existent on the right, is way less than honest.

But his behavior post election verifies your concerns. Not 1 suit he has brought required him to be on the airwaves or Twitter trying to incite distrust and civil unrest.
Simply asking his supporters to provide any evidence they were aware of would have been enough.
Conduct of a leader absolutely does matter.
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There is no way that Republicans in Congress would sit quiet if a Democratic Party President was trying to subvert democracy the way Trump is right now. Having Republican state legislatures from Michigan over to the White House to keep them from certifying the results was a shameless abuse of power. These are not things you ever expect to see in the United States.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
You sound like a long time Repub that refuses to accept an individual like Trump. I can see that point. I just look at his policies and the alternative and hold my nose and vote for him. I didn’t vote for him in 2016 because I figured he was a blow hard. Turns out he’s a blow hard bit actually implemented quite a few policies I agree with.

I won’t defend the man and you can’t make me 😬 but I thought the admin was fairly effective with the continual obstruction. But that also is a part of politics and they are expected to work thru it. I think Biden will fare worse than Trump also on dealing with an uncooperative Congress.
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Trump appeased conservatives by appointing conservative judges and slashing regs. He's neither conservative nor liberal. He's an act to benefit himself. The joke of all time is that he's a patriot. It's a heightened form of idiocy to claim otherwise, just as it is to believe he's a Christian
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Trump appeased conservatives by appointing conservative judges and slashing regs. He's neither conservative nor liberal. He's an act to benefit himself. The joke of all time is that he's a patriot. It's a heightened form of idiocy to claim otherwise, just as it is to believe he's a Christian
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Correct. Trump doesn't stand on principles or values. Everything is transactional with Trump. He is a Christian and a patriot when he needs to be to pander to his base for votes.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Trump appeased conservatives by appointing conservative judges and slashing regs. He's neither conservative nor liberal. He's an act to benefit himself. The joke of all time is that he's a patriot. It's a heightened form of idiocy to claim otherwise, just as it is to believe he's a Christian
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I’ve said I won’t defend Trump himself so you’re preaching is falling of deaf ears.

However his legacy will be Federal and SCOTUS judge appointments and by that alone it was a VERY productive four years.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’ve said I won’t defend Trump himself so you’re preaching is falling of deaf ears.

However his legacy will be Federal and SCOTUS judge appointments and by that alone it was a VERY productive four years.
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Lol. Ok. His legacy will be that of a thinned skin, self serving con man. Pretty much sums up his lifetime legacy as well
 
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carlos86 said:
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It's starting to look like the plan all along was to make a bunch of outlandish claims, take them to court, tie things up just long enough that certain areas don't get certified, and rely on that to change the outcome.

Edit: when I said "it's starting, " I probably should have says "it continues."
 
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Orangeburst said:
I respect your anecdote. We would probably all be horrified of leaders real thoughts, but policy wise nothing Trump has done has been Mein Kampf and your comment comes across as hyperbolic, fear mongering and unfounded.
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That's fine. Mentioned not liking Trump before he became a politician, a year or 2 ago in the RF, but never said why. So it would be the longest drawn out lie in history.

Never expected anyone to believe me tho, especially those that support him. If no one believed the "loser" comment after McCain, I know they wouldn't bother with me. Nothing to gain :shrug:
You questioned me and I explained why I feel the way I do. Don't mean this in a rude way but I don't really care if you believe me, you asked. The trip was parent funded because riots took place in 92 and school trip was canceled. If I were going to use it as hyperbole, I would've done so...you know, before the election. When it would've mattered. I didn't for this exact reason of that accusation but not gonna lie when asked.
 
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Who could forget the vice president's role in vaccine delivery . . . 11 years ago. I remember it like it was yesterday.

 
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