2020 Presidential Race

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AM64 said:
That's another issue. We treat kids as adults at 18. If you say that they aren't really responsible enough to understand the consequences of student loan debt and repayment because of the worthless degree issue, then we really should be saying they aren't old enough to vote either. It doesn't make sense to make the age of responsibility conditional.
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Outside of the mob, tell me any other loan that is given out to teens without collateral and without any guarantee that the recipient can repay. Also no way to ever get rid of the debt outside of death
 
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The Trump campaign hired John and Patsy Ramsey’s attorney to represent them in Georgia. The Georgia recount ends at midnight tonight.
 
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Orange defense said:
You are going to think a done deal. This is only the beginning of a big mess, and Trump will win Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona,
Michigan,Wisconsin. He will be your president
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He has an outside shot at the two closest. Which I think is GA and Arizona. But it's not going to be enough.

And honestly I dont think it's going to be close on any of them.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
And it wasn’t listed in your link but it’s been validated. In DeKalb Co there was a batch that was like 1xxx-13 Biden but it was entered 10xxx-13 Biden. One one gaff alone almost halved the deficit.
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I think your are referring to this right wing bs...........
That’s the case with a claim made by Georgia Republican Party Chairman David Shafer, who wrote on Twitter that the party’s audit monitors found a form attached to a batch of votes that had been miscalculated, which would have given Biden a tremendous lead.



The Republican monitor wrote in an affidavit that after raising the issue, the count for that batch of recounted ballots was off by two votes, not the 9,626 that he had initially said.

“This was a non-event, non-issue kind of thing. But it does help stir the pot to a degree, which is unfortunate,” Sterling said. “That’s why we put the quality control measures in, to make sure that everything lines up and has a logical rationale behind it.”

A Republican member of the DeKalb elections board criticized Shafer for leading voters to believe election workers had miscounted ballots.

“This is a childish and irresponsible tweet," said DeKalb elections board member Baoky Vu.
 
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utvolpj said:
Outside of the mob, tell me any other loan that is given out to teens without collateral and without any guarantee that the recipient can repay. Also no way to ever get rid of the debt outside of death
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I don't defend the student loan situation by any means, and I think schools use it to the hilt as a money grab. To me the correction involves that legal term "consideration" - if we treat college students as too immature to manage their finances then we bump the voting age back up to say they are too immature to vote on matters having to do with government spending. On the bankruptcy issue. Don't you suppose it was done knowing that if you gave kids the ability to borrow without collateral and without proving they were working toward a degree that provided the means of repayment, that bankruptcy would be in at least the 90% range? A rite of passage?
 
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luthervol said:
I think your are referring to this right wing bs...........
That’s the case with a claim made by Georgia Republican Party Chairman David Shafer, who wrote on Twitter that the party’s audit monitors found a form attached to a batch of votes that had been miscalculated, which would have given Biden a tremendous lead.



The Republican monitor wrote in an affidavit that after raising the issue, the count for that batch of recounted ballots was off by two votes, not the 9,626 that he had initially said.

“This was a non-event, non-issue kind of thing. But it does help stir the pot to a degree, which is unfortunate,” Sterling said. “That’s why we put the quality control measures in, to make sure that everything lines up and has a logical rationale behind it.”

A Republican member of the DeKalb elections board criticized Shafer for leading voters to believe election workers had miscounted ballots.

“This is a childish and irresponsible tweet," said DeKalb elections board member Baoky Vu.
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Not buying it I’ve seen it mentioned in other places also.
 
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