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kiddiedoc said:
I've now had two close friends with CV19 in the past week. Mom and dad with cough and viral achiness for a couple of days in both situations. Both are better but quarantining for 10 days. None of their school-aged kids have shown symptoms. Older parents are staying away.

One works in construction, one in insurance. Both wear masks at work and it spread exactly like the flu, seemingly irregardless of mask usage.

It certainly appears that we are moving into the "respiratory season phase" of this thing, where viruses seem to thrive. I'm very thankful that they are all well, but I maintain that the safer course of action would have been to do this earlier in the year. If the spread continues and reaches the elderly in December-February, hospitals could get in trouble. I'm hoping that we can get vaccine mobilized to the at-risk population very soon. It cannot be emphasized enough how incredible the development has been under the Warp Speed initiative. Again, I pray that the vaccine proves safe in the long term.
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You bring up a great point that quite a few of the libertarians here need to grasp. Our healthcare system being overwhelmed is an issue that can't be ignored. Isolating the most vulnerable might not be enough to prevent hospitals from overflowing. That is a legitimate the reason for lockdowns and I do hope it doesn't come to that
 
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How many times did the left, including some here on this board, lecture us that Pfizer didn't take any Operation Warp Speed money? I told them at the time their comments were irrelevant...but where are those folks now to remind us that Moderna did take the money? Not a mention from Lester Holt last night about this or how Trump's program helped Moderna come out with this vaccine. Operation Warp Speed also assisted other companies such as J&J who will announce their vaccine in the future. It's because of Trump that they'll have tens of millions out there for us all to take by next month. His foresight will save countless lives
 
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MontyPython said:
Better yet, Pfizer is based in New York City and Moderna in Boston.

Y'all ready for your Yankee shots?
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Awww, Someone only got half of the “Unity! … Die conservative Nazis!” memo.

Now shut up and go get your Trump vaccine, boy.

And don’t forget to kiss the orange ring and thank him for a new vaccine/pandemic paradigm for the future, one that will save untold millions of lives.
 
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MontyPython said:
Heh. No vaccine for me, thank you.

Don't forget, Joe Biden is your President on January 20th.

#hugs
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Then shut up about mask, social distancing, and responsible civic duties regarding the pandemic.

He might be the president but no, he won’t be mine. We are Nazis and white supremacists remember?
 
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VolnJC said:
As a professor of pharmacology and pharmacy law and ethics...it makes me excited and nervous that they got these vaccines thru all the clinical trials so quickly...its been alleged for years that the FDA has become too industry friendly...we don't need another thalidomide tragedy...I probably won't get it. I work from home...we homeschool...not around anyone who is high risk
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Has the make up and additives been published yet?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
The most recent studies have shown that immunity persists for at least 6 months.
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What do you think it is with constant reexposure? As hard as hospitals have tried we still don't have negative pressure rooms for all the positives. With the aerosolizing procedures on bipap and vented pts, I'm fairly sure covid ICU have covid spreading outside these positive pressure rooms.
 
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Vol Main said:
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I don't hunt and neither does this ☝
 
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MontyPython said:
Based on the CDC's advice, you are wrong (as usual). Hope you're not spreading such disinformation to your patients.
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And here's where Monty argues medicine with a doctor....

Good grief man you have absolutely lost your sheit lately. Its one thing to be a liberal. Thats just ignorance or stupidity...thats tolerable. Taking up for a pack of worthless hyena thieves that go around mugging old people and throwing fireworks into restaurants is just being an idiot doooshbag though. Now trying to argue with a practicing doctor who treats patients with the virus all the time...who's JOB it is to know all the up to date info....

WTF is wrong with you homie?
 
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NCFisher said:
Then shut up about mask, social distancing, and responsible civic duties regarding the pandemic.

He might be the president but no, he won’t be mine. We are Nazis and white supremacists remember?
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I will never call him president. I will never recognize him as president. I wish him nothing but 100% failure.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
And here's where Monty argues medicine with a doctor....

Good grief man you have absolutely lost your sheit lately. Its one thing to be a liberal. Thats just ignorance or stupidity...thats tolerable. Taking up for a pack of worthless hyena thieves that go around mugging old people and throwing fireworks into restaurants is just being an idiot doooshbag though. Now trying to argue with a practicing doctor who treats patients with the virus all the time...who's JOB it is to know all the up to date info....

WTF is wrong with you homie?
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FYI.
Monty is here to throw out bait and catch a fish.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
And here's where Monty argues medicine with a doctor....

Good grief man you have absolutely lost your sheit lately. Its one thing to be a liberal. Thats just ignorance or stupidity...thats tolerable. Taking up for a pack of worthless hyena thieves that go around mugging old people and throwing fireworks into restaurants is just being an idiot doooshbag though. Now trying to argue with a practicing doctor who treats patients with the virus all the time...who's JOB it is to know all the up to date info....

WTF is wrong with you homie?
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(1) The purported doctor failed to actually read the crap that he/she cited. It stated:

“However, it does not mean that people cannot be re-infected. We need to have much larger population studies to show that.”

(2) Per the CDC:

Updated Oct. 29, 2020

If you test positive
  • A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance that a positive result means you have antibodies from an infection with a different virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses). Note: Other coronaviruses cannot produce a positive result on a viral test for SARS-CoV-2.
  • Having antibodies to the virus that causes COVID-19 may provide protection from getting infected with the virus again. But even if it does, we do not know how much protection the antibodies may provide or how long this protection may last. Confirmed and suspected cases of reinfection have been reported, but remain rare.
  • Talk with your healthcare provider about your test result and the type of test you took to understand what your result means. Your provider may suggest you take a second type of antibody test to see if the first test was accurate.
  • You should continue to protect yourself and others since you could get infected with the virus again.
    • If you work in a job where you wear personal protective equipment (PPE), continue wearing PPE.
  • You may test positive for antibodies even if you have never had symptoms of COVID-19. This can happen if you had an infection without symptoms, which is called an asymptomatic infection.

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MontyPython said:
(1) The purported doctor failed to actually read crap that he/she cited. It stated:

“However, it does not mean that people cannot be re-infected. We need to have much larger population studies to show that.”

(2) Per the CDC:

Updated Oct. 29, 2020

If you test positive
  • A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance that a positive result means you have antibodies from an infection with a different virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses). Note: Other coronaviruses cannot produce a positive result on a viral test for SARS-CoV-2.
  • Having antibodies to the virus that causes COVID-19 may provide protection from getting infected with the virus again. But even if it does, we do not know how much protection the antibodies may provide or how long this protection may last. Confirmed and suspected cases of reinfection have been reported, but remain rare.
  • Talk with your healthcare provider about your test result and the type of test you took to understand what your result means. Your provider may suggest you take a second type of antibody test to see if the first test was accurate.
  • You should continue to protect yourself and others since you could get infected with the virus again.
    • If you work in a job where you wear personal protective equipment (PPE), continue wearing PPE.
  • You may test positive for antibodies even if you have never had symptoms of COVID-19. This can happen if you had an infection without symptoms, which is called an asymptomatic infection.

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55 million positive cases globally
24 reported cases of reinfection globally

Exactly how much more data do they need?
 
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#82,447
MontyPython said:
(1) The purported doctor failed to actually read the crap that he/she cited. It stated:

“However, it does not mean that people cannot be re-infected. We need to have much larger population studies to show that.”

(2) Per the CDC:

Updated Oct. 29, 2020

If you test positive
  • A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance that a positive result means you have antibodies from an infection with a different virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses). Note: Other coronaviruses cannot produce a positive result on a viral test for SARS-CoV-2.
  • Having antibodies to the virus that causes COVID-19 may provide protection from getting infected with the virus again. But even if it does, we do not know how much protection the antibodies may provide or how long this protection may last. Confirmed and suspected cases of reinfection have been reported, but remain rare.
  • Talk with your healthcare provider about your test result and the type of test you took to understand what your result means. Your provider may suggest you take a second type of antibody test to see if the first test was accurate.
  • You should continue to protect yourself and others since you could get infected with the virus again.
    • If you work in a job where you wear personal protective equipment (PPE), continue wearing PPE.
  • You may test positive for antibodies even if you have never had symptoms of COVID-19. This can happen if you had an infection without symptoms, which is called an asymptomatic infection.

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The good doctor addressed that. He said that there are very few reinfections and even those are questionable. Is there a zero percent chance of reinfection? No. All your bilge above states is that further research would be helpful. Yeah, yeah. We get it
 
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