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EconVol92

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It is totally obvious that something happened at some point between halftime of the Georgia game and the start of the Kentucky game.

What and when is the question here.

The players have not lost their abilities to play, so we can eliminate that.

Was there a conflict between two players, two units (offensive vs defensive players) or individual players?

Could it even be a problem among the coaching staff or the death knell of coaching staff vs players?

You will not ever be able to convince me that either Kentucky or Arkansas has anywhere near the overall talent that we do.

The only obvious answer to me is all problems start at our overall lack of competent QB play and perhaps there is some underlying feeling of hopelessness by both the rest of the offensive and defensive players.

I have firmly supported Pruitt up until the Kentucky game when I started to have questions and then doubts after Arkansas.

After yesterday I really question if there will be another win the rest of the season as Vandy looked so much better than we did against Kentucky.
 
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EconVol92 said:
It is totally obvious that something happened at some point between halftime of the Georgia game and the start of the Kentucky game.

What and when is the question here.

The players have not lost their abilities to play, so we can eliminate that.

Was there a conflict between two players, two units (offensive vs defensive players) or individual players?

Could it even be a problem among the coaching staff or the death knell of coaching staff vs players?

You will not ever be able to convince me that either Kentucky or Arkansas has anywhere near the overall talent that we do.

The only obvious answer to me is all problems start at our overall lack of competent QB play and perhaps there is some underlying feeling of hopelessness by both the rest of the offensive and defensive players.

I have firmly supported Pruitt up until the Kentucky game when I started to have questions and then doubts after Arkansas.

After yesterday I really question if there will be another win the rest of the season as Vandy looked so much better than we did against Kentucky.
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Jeremy Pruitt is what happened, in case you have forgotten we lost to Ga. State and BYU in the beginning of last season. South Carolina is dreadful this year and Mizzou hadn’t switched qb’s yet. We are a bad football team with no qb in an era where great offenses dominate
 
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EconVol92 said:
It is totally obvious that something happened at some point between halftime of the Georgia game and the start of the Kentucky game.

What and when is the question here.

The players have not lost their abilities to play, so we can eliminate that.

Was there a conflict between two players, two units (offensive vs defensive players) or individual players?

Could it even be a problem among the coaching staff or the death knell of coaching staff vs players?

You will not ever be able to convince me that either Kentucky or Arkansas has anywhere near the overall talent that we do.

The only obvious answer to me is all problems start at our overall lack of competent QB play and perhaps there is some underlying feeling of hopelessness by both the rest of the offensive and defensive players.

I have firmly supported Pruitt up until the Kentucky game when I started to have questions and then doubts after Arkansas.

After yesterday I really question if there will be another win the rest of the season as Vandy looked so much better than we did against Kentucky.
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It’s pretty obvious that the players just don’t care, their play says it all
Yes the lack of motivation is on Pruitt, but the lack of effort is on the players
 
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landscapingvol said:
Jeremy Pruitt is what happened, in case you have forgotten we lost to Ga. State and BYU in the beginning of last season. South Carolina is dreadful this year and Mizzou hadn’t switched qb’s yet. We are a bad football team with no qb in an era where great offenses dominate
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I’m with you there I was just trying to give a young staff the benefit of the doubt that they underestimated Georgia State and just prepared for BYU.

To me BYU was totally a JG thing as we were totally predictable as he could not throw a catchable pass and they could load the box as they had no fear of a pass completion. I will also say that was the Same issue with Kentucky this year.

I’m leaning towards JG being the main issue with Pruitt being a close second in not getting another QB or getting one ready to play.

If we lose to Vandy I’m ready to pull the plug no matter what; however, if we could get Freeze I’m ready to do it now.

Otherwise, I say stick with Pruitt and take a chance as I don’t see another coach taking the job and it would just be a shot in the dark and we need to make sure we don’t screw the pooch again.
 
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The team is simply playing with ZERO confidence. They have no confidence in any QB on the roster and no confidence in the coaches to fix it. It's NOT rocket science. Pruitt will have to totally audit his approach and admit his shortcomings to himself. He's too hard headed to hit the "reset " button, IMO. There is NO reason this team should be performing as bad as it is from a talent/ability standpoint.
 
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Pruitt stayed with a QB that's in over his head, the Brumbaugh incident, the inability to develop players, and the players see the inability to make in-game adjustments. The players just have flat out tuned him out and you saw a team that quit against UK in the second half. This shows it takes a lot more than "knowing football" to be a good HC; it is as important to know people and Pruitt has failed miserably here. There were tons of red flags with this aspect of his resume.
 
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I think that's the time we started sucking.

I have come to realize vol football will never return to the level that made me fall in love during the 90s when I was a teenager. We are a historically average team except for the neyland years and the Fulmer years other than that I have come to accept us as average and take the losses and wins without much emotion these days.
 
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There may have been more unexpected fallout to the Brumbaugh in game firing than is being publicly admitted or observed through the state controlled media, Brumbaugh was co-defensive coordinator with Derrick Ansley, they had worked together at Kentucky along the way and while im not sure who has the authority to terminate assistant coaches or if anybody has the authority to do that in game, I can't recall that happening in Neyland Stadium anytime before, Saban tends to get in his players and coaches faces, but I've never heard of him terminating a coach in games,

Makes you wonder what Butch Jones is really doing on that staff other that standing for the proposition that, with the offset, Tennessee is sending $150,000 a month to a member of the Alabama coaching staff
 
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EconVol92 said:
It is totally obvious that something happened at some point between halftime of the Georgia game and the start of the Kentucky game.

What and when is the question here.

The players have not lost their abilities to play, so we can eliminate that.

Was there a conflict between two players, two units (offensive vs defensive players) or individual players?

Could it even be a problem among the coaching staff or the death knell of coaching staff vs players?

You will not ever be able to convince me that either Kentucky or Arkansas has anywhere near the overall talent that we do.

The only obvious answer to me is all problems start at our overall lack of competent QB play and perhaps there is some underlying feeling of hopelessness by both the rest of the offensive and defensive players.

I have firmly supported Pruitt up until the Kentucky game when I started to have questions and then doubts after Arkansas.

After yesterday I really question if there will be another win the rest of the season as Vandy looked so much better than we did against Kentucky.
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Defense wasn't the problem. It was the QB and oline.

They fired a D coach instead.

D now hates the offense and is over it.

Instead of JG firing Friend he fired the d line coach as a scapegoat and now you have a divided locker room.

Team is in real trouble. Think they have lost faith in Pruitt.
 
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You know at work when that guy/gal who isn't good at their job and couldn't lead a s!!t sandwich out of a paper bag but gets promoted because they have been there forever and "paid their dues" then basically sinks the ship and morale? Thats what happened.
 
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NEO said:
Defense wasn't the problem. It was the QB and oline.

They fired a D coach instead.

D now hates the offense and is over it.

Instead of JG firing Friend he fired the d line coach as a scapegoat and now you have a divided locker room.

Team is in real trouble. Think they have lost faith in Pruitt.
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I agree in that at bare minimum without a head coach change either Weinke or Friend if not both need to go.

We have had below average QB play for 3 years now and it appears that we should have an all star offensive line with not more than average performance.
 
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EconVol92 said:
It is totally obvious that something happened at some point between halftime of the Georgia game and the start of the Kentucky game.

What and when is the question here.

The players have not lost their abilities to play, so we can eliminate that.

Was there a conflict between two players, two units (offensive vs defensive players) or individual players?

Could it even be a problem among the coaching staff or the death knell of coaching staff vs players?

You will not ever be able to convince me that either Kentucky or Arkansas has anywhere near the overall talent that we do.

The only obvious answer to me is all problems start at our overall lack of competent QB play and perhaps there is some underlying feeling of hopelessness by both the rest of the offensive and defensive players.

I have firmly supported Pruitt up until the Kentucky game when I started to have questions and then doubts after Arkansas.

After yesterday I really question if there will be another win the rest of the season as Vandy looked so much better than we did against Kentucky.
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JG happened.
 
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There’s a ceiling and a floor. We have hit the ceiling, now we’re searching for the floor.
 
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EconVol92 said:
It is totally obvious that something happened at some point between halftime of the Georgia game and the start of the Kentucky game.

What and when is the question here.

The players have not lost their abilities to play, so we can eliminate that.

Was there a conflict between two players, two units (offensive vs defensive players) or individual players?

Could it even be a problem among the coaching staff or the death knell of coaching staff vs players?

You will not ever be able to convince me that either Kentucky or Arkansas has anywhere near the overall talent that we do.

The only obvious answer to me is all problems start at our overall lack of competent QB play and perhaps there is some underlying feeling of hopelessness by both the rest of the offensive and defensive players.

I have firmly supported Pruitt up until the Kentucky game when I started to have questions and then doubts after Arkansas.

After yesterday I really question if there will be another win the rest of the season as Vandy looked so much better than we did against Kentucky.
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Well, if I could boil it all down, Id say play calling sucks on both sides, no adjustments are ever made, and a stubborn head coach. We are extremely basic/ vanilla in a time of explosiveness. And Pruitt must have thought with his weak ass 8 game winning streak that he could continue with that formula
 
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Landscapingvol,no we haven't forgotten.Possibly you should use a stick edger around the edges where your brain should be to get a good,clean look.
 
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