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KPT_VFL said:
No. Damage is done. He has to win 3 of last 4 to win me back. And by win me back I mean give him next year. I want him gone after 3-7.
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Exactly has to go 5-5 and I'll give him one more year to see if he can flip the switch. But us going 5-5 is so astronomically low it's laughable
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
It’s amazing to me that people who are supposed to be so smart can’t see the simple numbers. It’s amazing to me that they can’t see this same exact situation has already been seen on the Hill with the last 2 coaches, yet we have learned nothing from it and will keep the 3rd one a year too long. My only thing that makes me think I understand why is what @Atlanta VOL said...if everyone isn’t rowing in the same direction, it doesn’t matter who is our coach. I really think the power boosters who have been overpowered are sabotaging the program somehow in a negative fashion, in order to regain power. It’s amazing we can’t all join together for the good of the program to make Tennessee great again. As Paul said in 1 Tim 6:10, “For the love of money is the root of all evil...”. So so true. Power, because of the money and love of it, fits right in with that.
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The same fractious boosters and AD are involved in the basketball program and it's humming along. Do they like shooty hoops better? No. We have a good coach there and it shows. A good coach will succeed regardless of boosters or the admin. We simply need to take a page from the little brothers of the SEC West who got tired of feeling like there was no hope. Fire our version of Chad Morris and hire Freeze or someone else who at least has an idea of how to manage a game. But tbh, there's not a better time to reach out to Freeze than now because if we don't someone else will and we will be stuck holding the bag. OM dumped Luke because they wanted Kiffin and were not going to stand by while their rivals upgraded and to be fair to Luke he'd done far less wrong under far worse circumstances than Pruitt. He was more collateral damage in the race to be better than a bad coach. In contrast, all we've done the past 20 years is stand by while our rivals upgraded. If we wait, we will once again lose. Waiting is what has gotten us here and kept us here.
 
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Well, if we are worried about a 12 million dollar buyout, then let him finish the last 4 years of his contract after this season. We’ll save the 12 million dollar buy out but at 70% capacity in future seasons due to the crappy product on the field (assuming we can have Neyland at capacity) will cost the University 30,000 seats x $100 per ticket a cool 3 million per home game, not to mention parking, souvenirs and concessions. At 7 home games per season that is $21 million per season in lost revenues for a cool $84 million over 4 years. But by all means let’s not pay the 12 million.
 
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UTK said:
Exactly has to go 5-5 and I'll give him one more year to see if he can flip the switch. But us going 5-5 is so astronomically low it's laughable
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Winning 3 of 4 down the stretch would only make me give him a chance with a QB not named JG. However, next season He’d have to beat one of Florida UGA or Bama for me to buy in and he’d have to go 9-3. No losses to UK, Vandy, USCjr Mizzou or OOC games. Even at 9-3 I’d be hesitant to buy back in if we got blown out by our 3 main rivals. I understand the University would kill for 9-3 and rightfully so but I still wouldn’t believe he’d ever get us over the hump. Especially with his management of players and how abysmal out teams looks on offense and doesn’t seem to have improved at all.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
He needs stud players at every position. I'm not impressed. He's never lacked talent except here and this defense sucks. Almost Sunseri level bad. To me that's how you judge a coach whether it be the head coach or a coordinator. Do they play over their ability?
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It is not Sunseri bad except for one quater. Arky would've scored 50 plus on Sunsseri. we still have major problems.
 
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coskramer said:
No way in hell Hugh takes SC job. He knows he can get much better than that
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He’d have it made. Beat us every year he’s there. Out recruit us. We’d be searching for a new coach after next year. If they get Freeze we will be Vandy/Mizzou level.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Wish we landed Rakim Jarret and Tau from Maryland but then again they probably wouldn’t be given a chance yet if they were here.....sickening to think about guys we were deep on at times and how they are shining elsewhere. BJ Ojalari is the one that really stings the hardest.
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Yeah. Ojulari is a beast and is gonna kill it at lsu. Of all the players we've missed on over the last few years, he's gotta be close to the top.
 
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Volnerd said:
I have to admit that talking about coaching changes has been more entertaining than watching our football team for the last few years. But it seems clear that there will not be a change this year regardless of the number of fans that think we need one. So all this talk could be destructive. I think the best path forward for right now is to get Bailey ready to play and then for Pruitt to remove the coaches who aren't cutting it or who he doesn't get along with at the end of the season. The challenge will be keeping the recruiting class that we have right now.
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We should stop getting excited over coaching searches. We're only going to end up disappointed while we Google the name of the coach when it's leaked ahead of the announcement.
 
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UTProf said:
The same fractious boosters and AD are involved in the basketball program and it's humming along. Do they like shooty hoops better? No. We have a good coach there and it shows. A good coach will succeed regardless of boosters or the admin. We simply need to take a page from the little brothers of the SEC West who got tired of feeling like there was no hope. Fire our version of Chad Morris and hire Freeze or someone else who at least has an idea of how to manage a game. But tbh, there's not a better time to reach out to Freeze than now because if we don't someone else will and we will be stuck holding the bag. OM dumped Luke because they wanted Kiffin and were not going to stand by while their rivals upgraded and to be fair to Luke he'd done far less wrong under far worse circumstances than Pruitt. He was more collateral damage in the race to be better than a bad coach. In contrast, all we've done the past 20 years is stand by while our rivals upgraded. If we wait, we will once again lose. Waiting is what has gotten us here and kept us here.
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Agree. Freeze or whoever else winds up on some list we come up with will still be roaming sometime else's sidelines.

It's no in our DNA to do what you described, certainly not with Fulmer at the helm.
 
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