2020 Presidential Race

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Orangeslice13 said:
I don’t know about that. There’s been a lot of “there’s no proof” posts. When in reality the amount of proof in various locations is actually very concerning. The recounts that are actually happening could force more recounts in the places that are resisting. This is too important to the future to allow it to continue
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In reality, you have sour grapes.
 
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Ashevolle said:
It sounds like you don't have a firm grasp on election law or appellate process. The Supreme Court can take up any issue on certiorari. They are still bound by laws. If they chose to take up the issue, I'd be shocked because no plausible legal argument for judicial review has yet been cited by the floundering Trump team. IF (a big if) Trump came up with a legitimate gripe, the Supreme Court can hear the matter. No one can stop them. However, they'd need to have a legitimate case and controversy to decide otherwise they'd be serving an extrajudicial power grab if they simply ignored the law.

So, I'll ask again. What's the legal theory for the SC to get involved. Your answer of "the election laws" was just incredibly vague and suggested you don't have a clue. Do you have a more thought out answer or is that it? If that's all you've got, you should work for the Trump legal team, because you're doing about as good a job as they've done to this point at coming up with an actual legal argument.
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I've said all along that I don't know the evidence at hand, lack of evidence at hand, or how this will play out. I've said all along that we need to let this play out. And I've said all along that we need to accept whichever president the system produces.

You're the one that first claimed the Republic is dead if the Supreme Court gives Trump the presidency, before then saying that they would have the right to do so if it went before them.

If there is evidence of coordinated, multi-state election fraud, I can absolutely see the election going to the Supreme Court to decide which ballots are to be counted and which aren't.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What specific ruling are you counting on the Supreme Court of the United States to make, which is going to hand over multiple states to Donald Trump (in which he is currently trailing by more than 10,000 votes) and put him over 270 electoral college votes? Keeping in mind, that Joe Biden doesn't even need to win Georgia, Arizona or Nevada. Among the states that are even competitive at all right now, Biden just needs to win Pennsylvania (he has a 45,000 vote lead) and Wisconsin (he has a 20,000 vote lead). Michigan and Minnesota are out of reach for Trump.

You seem to think of the Supreme Court as being a purely political body with the power to wave a magic wand and decide the outcome of presidential elections based on nothing but their own individual political preferences. It's a simple-minded line of thinking.
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You really expect me to discuss this with the guy who argued that the US Constitution protected Hunter Biden from being investigated by Ukrainian LEO for crimes committed in Ukraine, and that the US DoJ had the jurisdiction to investigate it unless Trump asked them to?

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I've said all along that I don't know the evidence at hand, lack of evidence at hand, or how this will play out. I've said all along that we need to let this play out. And I've said all along that we need to accept whichever president the system produces.

You're the one that first claimed the Republic is dead if the Supreme Court gives Trump the presidency, before then saying that they would have the right to do so if it went before them.

If there is evidence of coordinated, multi-state election fraud, I can absolutely see the election going to the Supreme Court to decide which ballots are to be counted and which aren't.
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0nelilreb said:
I”ll be your huckleberry , what do you want to start with ?
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Consistent lying as if it’s fact, using his own hotels for government reservations, downplaying the coronavirus while lying to the public, unmarked police detaining protestors, putting family members and unqualified people in positons/giving them clearances, having protestors gassed and cleared for a photo op, commuting corrupt buddies, saying before and after the election that it’s rigged if/when he loses without evidence.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Interpreting federal election laws and results.

Are you claiming that the Supreme Court doesn't have the right to weigh in? Again... Is that why the Dems asked the newest Supreme COurt justice if she's abstain from voting when the election came before the Supreme Court? Congress seems to think they have jurisdiction.
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What case are they going to weigh in on, which is going to hand Trump the election? This isn't 2000. It doesn't involve just one state hanging in the balance. Biden is projected to win 306 electoral college votes. There isn't going to be one ruling that is going to flip three freaking states.

It's not a fair and honest election that Trump supporters want and they don't mind politically activist justices on the Supreme Court either. They just want a Trump victory and they honestly believe that just because there are 6 conservative justices on the court now, and 3 of them were nominated by Trump, that this is going to save the day for them. The Supreme Court is not a political body.
 
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States: MO,OH,SD,TX,AL,AR,SC,MI,LA,FL,KY Pile-On PA Lawsuit

The damn is breaking wide open now...CornPop & Trixie should just concede now before it gets so much worse.

Ten Republican Attorneys General File Amicus Brief with Supreme Court in Pennsylvania Ballot Case

A group of 10 Republican attorneys general announced Monday that they are filing an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in a case challenging mail ballots in Pennsylvania, arguing that the state increased the risk of fraud in the election.

Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt led the group in submitting the brief, which asks the Supreme Court to reverse a recent decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowing mail-in ballots to be received three days after Election Day, including those lacking a postmark to prove they were mailed by Election Day.

The brief argues the state court’s ruling was unconstitutional in that it violated the separation of powers. The attorneys general also argue that with the ruling, Pennsylvania exacerbated the risks of voter fraud in connection with absentee ballots.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Wonder why it’s always the Democratic Party that fights against photo IDs in order to vote?..... against signature verification?..... against witnessed signatures for absentee votes?
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and why every single "anomaly of integrity" falls their way...this is just like the Horowitz Report.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You really expect me to discuss this with the guy who argued that the US Constitution protected Hunter Biden from being investigated by Ukrainian LEO for crimes committed in Ukraine, and that the US DoJ had the jurisdiction to investigate it unless Trump asked them to?
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Nice dodge but that wasn't my argument (from at least a month ago).

You apparently consider the Supreme Court of the United States to be a political body, or an extension of the administration which nominated them. You are either simple-minded, or just plain ignorant.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What case are they going to weigh in on, which is going to hand Trump the election? This isn't 2000. It doesn't involve just one state hanging in the balance. Biden is projected to win 306 electoral college votes. There isn't going to be one ruling that is going to flip three freaking states.

It's not a fair and honest election that Trump supporters want and they don't mind politically activist justices on the Supreme Court either. They just want a Trump victory and they honestly believe that just because there are 6 conservative justices on the court now, and 3 of them were nominated by Trump, that this is going to save the day for them. The Supreme Court is not a political body.
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Reread my quoted reply. There are accusations about fraud in several state elections, and you should probably read up on the states that have been moved out of Biden's column as toss-ups.

Oh... And cry me a river about a conservative court, as the liberals moaned about the court being flipped from a liberal one. The liberals have been using the SCOTUS as a political body for too long for you to make that accusation. Hell, they wrote legislation to pass Obamacare.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Nice dodge but that wasn't my argument (from at least a month ago).

You apparently consider the Supreme Court of the United States to be a political body, or an extension of the administration which nominated them. You are either simple-minded, or just plain ignorant.
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I didn't dodge anything. I quoted my reply to the same question from another poster.

And that was your exact argument from a month ago. You were tied in knots. You're not worth my dragging it back out, but I'm sure there are those in this thread that read it and laughed with me.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Reread my quoted reply. There are accusations about fraud in several state elections, and you should probably read up on the states that have been moved out of Biden's column as toss-ups.

Oh... And cry me a river about a conservative court, as the liberals moaned about the court being flipped from a liberal one. The liberals have been using the SCOTUS as a political body for too long for you to make that accusation. Hell, they wrote legislation to pass Obamacare.
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I just checked the AP map... and Biden is still projected to finish with 306 electoral college votes per the Associated Press.

What case is the Supreme Court going to rule on, which flips states in Trump's favor? This is so ridiculous. Do you really think Trump is going to be saved by the Supreme Court? Is that what you are hoping for? What world do you people live in?

You know, sometimes the "Trump voters are uneducated" stereotype is well-earned. Nobody is this simple-minded.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I just checked the AP map... and Biden is still projected to finish with 306 electoral college votes per the Associated Press.

What case is the Supreme Court going to rule on, which flips states in Trump's favor? This is so ridiculous. Do you really think Trump is going to be saved by the Supreme Court? Is that what you are hoping for? What world do you people live in?

You know, sometimes the "Trump voters are uneducated" stereotype is well-earned. Nobody is this simple-minded.
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It's obvious you haven't read anything I've written. I don't know what evidence exists, or doesn't exist, or what cases will be submitted, or accepted. I haven't even said that the SCOTUS WILL decide the election. I answered someone who claimed that if the SCOTUS DID decide the election, the republic was dead.

I was defending the SCOTUS's right to decide the election IF THAT HAPPENED, which the poster in question came back and agreed with me on.

Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
It's obvious you haven't read anything I've written. I don't know what evidence exists, or doesn't exist, or what cases will be submitted, or accepted. I haven't even said that the SCOTUS WILL decide the election. I answered someone who claimed that if the SCOTUS DID decide the election, the republic was dead.

I was defending the SCOTUS's right to decide the election IF THAT HAPPENED, which the poster in question came back and agreed with me on.

Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
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That ship sailed a long time ago
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Nobody is this simple-minded.
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Orange_Crush said:
It's obvious you haven't read anything I've written. I don't know what evidence exists, or doesn't exist, or what cases will be submitted, or accepted. I haven't even said that the SCOTUS WILL decide the election. I answered someone who claimed that if the SCOTUS DID decide the election, the republic was dead.

I was defending the SCOTUS's right to decide the election IF THAT HAPPENED, which the poster in question came back and agreed with me on.

Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
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Yeah but what states have been moved from the win column for Biden? You said they were but I haven’t seen anything close to that?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It doesn’t add context.
Political party is irrelevant.
An accusation has been made. It’s a credible accusation. As such it should be investigated.
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I disagree - it does add context.

You telling me with all the conspiracy theorists on here that someone isn’t gonna see that and assume it’s the “radical lefty liberals” covering up election fraud?

So I added context.
 
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