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#51
#51
You do know that Eric Berry and Juuan Jennings both played QB in high school. Al Wilson played RB in high school also and the list goes on and on.. This is very common when moving up from high school..
It's common yes but not having 5 starters on your defense be former offensive players that's not common. One guy out of ten ok but four to five no that's a bad idea.
 
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#52
#52
Pruitt will not be fired. Period.

1. This program is going through extreme financial hardship. You have your head buried in the sand if you can’t put that together. The program itself is forced to have reduced ticket sales, concessions, etc after stadium renovations and paying off a few Ex coaches.

Timing sucks

2. The AD sure as heck ain’t gonna dismiss a coach 3 years in. Year 1, he inherited Butch Jones Team. Year 2, he sprinkled in some freshman. Year 3, he has a sophomore and freshman base.

Now...tell me about all the great teams that Fulmer outfit with freshman and sophomore. I’m waiting.

3. Pruitt is a players coach. The guy coaches football. He sells the steak, not the sizzle. The guy stands with his players in their community stances. As long as Pruitt is building a team and a culture, he won’t be on a short leash.

You can be pissed about a lot of things. I’m personally confused by timid play calling. I’m confused as to where our leaders are (I see #11 on D and #73 on O, that’s it). Now, #2 on D has been MIA and he’s been a leader as well.

You might have divide because you have MORE TALENTED youngsters who don’t have the KNOWLEDGE of upper class man.

Football requires iterating. Iterating week to week. Iterating at halftime - which we suck at right now.

Pruitt will be back. I think Jim Chaney will be back. I think Chris Weinke is at right. The state of our backup QB is truly puzzling.

The future is Bailey. Time to release the Hound.

Posting a new thread drooling over every other coach is rather pathetic. Confirms my theory that not everyone should have internet access.

In before username checks out.

In before Millenials start whining about instant gratification like they are owed something for watching football on Saturdays

In before any other couch sitting fan decides to trash a team when they probably spend their life avoiding adversity so they can’t be criticized.

The loudest group of y’all are Pathetic
You truly live in an alternate reality.
 
#53
#53
Pruitt will not be fired. Period.

1. This program is going through extreme financial hardship. You have your head buried in the sand if you can’t put that together. The program itself is forced to have reduced ticket sales, concessions, etc after stadium renovations and paying off a few Ex coaches.

Timing sucks

2. The AD sure as heck ain’t gonna dismiss a coach 3 years in. Year 1, he inherited Butch Jones Team. Year 2, he sprinkled in some freshman. Year 3, he has a sophomore and freshman base.

Now...tell me about all the great teams that Fulmer outfit with freshman and sophomore. I’m waiting.

3. Pruitt is a players coach. The guy coaches football. He sells the steak, not the sizzle. The guy stands with his players in their community stances. As long as Pruitt is building a team and a culture, he won’t be on a short leash.

You can be pissed about a lot of things. I’m personally confused by timid play calling. I’m confused as to where our leaders are (I see #11 on D and #73 on O, that’s it). Now, #2 on D has been MIA and he’s been a leader as well.

You might have divide because you have MORE TALENTED youngsters who don’t have the KNOWLEDGE of upper class man.

Football requires iterating. Iterating week to week. Iterating at halftime - which we suck at right now.

Pruitt will be back. I think Jim Chaney will be back. I think Chris Weinke is at right. The state of our backup QB is truly puzzling.

The future is Bailey. Time to release the Hound.

Posting a new thread drooling over every other coach is rather pathetic. Confirms my theory that not everyone should have internet access.

In before username checks out.

In before Millenials start whining about instant gratification like they are owed something for watching football on Saturdays

In before any other couch sitting fan decides to trash a team when they probably spend their life avoiding adversity so they can’t be criticized.

The loudest group of y’all are Pathetic
Why didn't you just come out and say your man crush is Jeremy
 
#54
#54
State of affairs........still bad, still see things you thought we were done seeing.......sad, sad state of affairs.
 
#55
#55
To me the question is, can UT afford to keep Pruitt. First, just based on how CJP conducts himself, I don't think he can be salvaged. By all measurements he is a failed HC at this point. He appears to try and coach every area of the team and his assistants appear to have stepped back and are allowing him. His team doesn't believe in his "process", as evidenced by his use of the "buy in" term and it is the third year of his defensive system. He harps on practice but doesn't understand that game performance is the only reason practice matters. He reminds me of a workaholic who tells everyone what and how to do their tasks or jobs because he has no idea how to function in his own role. The JG fiasco is the most unusual situation I can remember. Pruitt has or had a JG standard and an "all others" standard, which is an absolute disaster for a team sport. I think the cost will be greater, over time, if Pruitt is retained. He isn't a functional HC.
 
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#57
Pruitt will not be fired. Period.

1. This program is going through extreme financial hardship. You have your head buried in the sand if you can’t put that together. The program itself is forced to have reduced ticket sales, concessions, etc after stadium renovations and paying off a few Ex coaches.

Timing sucks

2. The AD sure as heck ain’t gonna dismiss a coach 3 years in. Year 1, he inherited Butch Jones Team. Year 2, he sprinkled in some freshman. Year 3, he has a sophomore and freshman base.

Now...tell me about all the great teams that Fulmer outfit with freshman and sophomore. I’m waiting.

3. Pruitt is a players coach. The guy coaches football. He sells the steak, not the sizzle. The guy stands with his players in their community stances. As long as Pruitt is building a team and a culture, he won’t be on a short leash.

You can be pissed about a lot of things. I’m personally confused by timid play calling. I’m confused as to where our leaders are (I see #11 on D and #73 on O, that’s it). Now, #2 on D has been MIA and he’s been a leader as well.

You might have divide because you have MORE TALENTED youngsters who don’t have the KNOWLEDGE of upper class man.

Football requires iterating. Iterating week to week. Iterating at halftime - which we suck at right now.

Pruitt will be back. I think Jim Chaney will be back. I think Chris Weinke is at right. The state of our backup QB is truly puzzling.

The future is Bailey. Time to release the Hound.

Posting a new thread drooling over every other coach is rather pathetic. Confirms my theory that not everyone should have internet access.

In before username checks out.

In before Millenials start whining about instant gratification like they are owed something for watching football on Saturdays

In before any other couch sitting fan decides to trash a team when they probably spend their life avoiding adversity so they can’t be criticized.

The loudest group of y’all are Pathetic


You are right on one thing, Pruitt will not be fired. But that is all that is right in this in my opinion.
I would like for someone, anyone, to explain how Pittman can take a program that has won very few if any SEC games in the last three years and turns them into a decent functioning team. Are they great no but they are better then UT and Pruitt has had 3 years and brought in what is supposed to be his guys and supposed to be better overall talent and star power. And yet Pittman has his team playing with purpose and fight. So please do not give me the crap about Pruitt needs time to get his system and his players in. If Pittman can do what he has done in year one with way less talent then the issue at UT has to be coaching and I do not see anyway around that fact. So please explain to me how I am wrong or how this is happening?
 
#59
#59
You are right on one thing, Pruitt will not be fired. But that is all that is right in this in my opinion.
I would like for someone, anyone, to explain how Pittman can take a program that has won very few if any SEC games in the last three years and turns them into a decent functioning team. Are they great no but they are better then UT and Pruitt has had 3 years and brought in what is supposed to be his guys and supposed to be better overall talent and star power. And yet Pittman has his team playing with purpose and fight. So please do not give me the crap about Pruitt needs time to get his system and his players in. If Pittman can do what he has done in year one with way less talent then the issue at UT has to be coaching and I do not see anyway around that fact. So please explain to me how I am wrong or how this is happening?

Excellent points.
 
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#60
Well, when the contract was written up just as a fictitious example. Let’s say you hire coach a for 4 years and 3 mill per year.. the boosters agree to pay 70% and the university pays 30% then I would imagine the boosters probably could pay off their portion but the university is probably locked in for the remainder of what they owe for the period of time until it’s complete. Obviously I would have to see the language the contract was written in.

Google is your friend. You can look up Pruitt, Cheney's and others contract and you will see the University/athletic department is on the hook for the salary/buyout. The Athletic Department's budget is separate from the University's. Their Revenue comes from media, gate, merchandise, AND donations(boosters). If boosters want a coach fired, they can tell the AD that they will increase their donation buy xxx amount or threaten to withhold a donation. They can also say they will increase their donation if xXxX is hired So yes a big booster can have a lot of influence but the Athletic Department is the one that is legally on the hook. Read the contract and see who signs.
After all the criticism Haslam got during the last coaching search, I don't know if he wants anything to do with this issue.
 
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#61
#61
I'm not going to weigh in on finances or what boosters will do, etc.

I will say this, there is no excuse for the performance this year and you can't explain it away by talking about the mess he inherited. That is over.

The team brought back 16 starters from last year. There are no excuses for getting dominated by UK and manhandled the entire second half by Arkansas.
 
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#62
You are right on one thing, Pruitt will not be fired. But that is all that is right in this in my opinion.
I would like for someone, anyone, to explain how Pittman can take a program that has won very few if any SEC games in the last three years and turns them into a decent functioning team. Are they great no but they are better then UT and Pruitt has had 3 years and brought in what is supposed to be his guys and supposed to be better overall talent and star power. And yet Pittman has his team playing with purpose and fight. So please do not give me the crap about Pruitt needs time to get his system and his players in. If Pittman can do what he has done in year one with way less talent then the issue at UT has to be coaching and I do not see anyway around that fact. So please explain to me how I am wrong or how this is happening?
Because unlike Pittman, Pruitt is an insecure, immature a$$hat gump who needs to return to his PE job. He has no business running a College Football program on any level.

Also, Pittman surrounded himself with people that are smarter than he is and that is the key to success. Pruitt is to insecure to do that so he surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men. Chaney will be leaving on his own terms after this year, from what I understand Will Friend has been running the offense since the UK game.

Bottom line, Pruitt needs to go
 
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State of affairs right now...
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1. I think you mean it requires reiterating.
2. he actually has 3 recruiting classes so he has majority of his guys and most of them he has coached 2-3 years including the qb position.
3. Don’t bash a fan base if you’re just going to misconstrue facts to form your own opinion... you’re the one with your head in the sand.
4. When the majority of the roster is your guys and that’s the performance you put out people can justly question the ability of a head coach to perform the duties required of the job.
5. Suck it

He was hired on Dec, 7th so in fact, a lot of the players that signed in his first recruiting class was recruited by the Jones family of coaches. I count that class as a push. His first actual class that he recruited all of them would be the second class he signed.
 
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#67
So if the boosters pay the buyout and it's that easy why was the university of Tennessee paying Butch Jones for several years?
Boosters pay money earmarked for coaches. It’s why they have so much influence over coaching hires. Remember Kiffin playing golf with Haslam a short while before he was hired?
 
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#69
This COVID excuse too....

it should have been an advantage for Tennessee. Same head coach, defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator. Most returning starters in the SEC.

Other teams had less returnees and a new staff.
 
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#70
I thought our backups looked bad, period. Unfortunately it appears JG is the best QB we have and that's a scary thought. I'm starting to think the Salters kid is gonna have a real shot at winning the job next year based on any ability to run. Aside from a Manning or Trask type QB, a running QB is about our only hope.
A running QB covers alot of sins, like our vaunted OL. Remember those crazy thoughts coming into the season that it didn't matter who the QB was because we were going to be "today's version" of Auburn (Cadilac Williams teams) or Ark (McFadden teams), where we were just going to run the ball on everyone without mercy...

Tennessee...the place where otherwise talented coaches and players come to under perform.
 
#71
#71
You are right on one thing, Pruitt will not be fired. But that is all that is right in this in my opinion.
I would like for someone, anyone, to explain how Pittman can take a program that has won very few if any SEC games in the last three years and turns them into a decent functioning team. Are they great no but they are better then UT and Pruitt has had 3 years and brought in what is supposed to be his guys and supposed to be better overall talent and star power. And yet Pittman has his team playing with purpose and fight. So please do not give me the crap about Pruitt needs time to get his system and his players in. If Pittman can do what he has done in year one with way less talent then the issue at UT has to be coaching and I do not see anyway around that fact. So please explain to me how I am wrong or how this is happening?
I don't know for sure, but just my opinion, it boils down to two things. 1) having a functional average/slightly above average QB, and 2) Pittman schemes probably simplified, where Chaney system on offense and Pruitt system on D may be too complex. No one really doubts that Chaney and Pruitt don't know their stuff, but if players can't execute it, what does it matter. When you've got QB and talent of UGA, or Bray and his WR's, or Brees, things get alot easier...when you've got 2-deep 5* players on D like UGA or Bama, that makes life easier too.
 
#72
#72
HB looked good Saturday. Neither interceptions were bad throws on his part. Don’t know what you were watching regarding Bailey. Maurer is a little questionable Saturday but he may turn out to be better than JG also. JG needs to sit and be relief. HB needs to start. Then we will know for sure after a game or two if HB can be the Qb we had hoped for.

Well, in fairness I should've probably said HB looked lost to me. Yes, I know he can and did complete a bunch of short passes to the RB but it seems like he just stepped on campus. That probably what Pruitt sees but then again it could be Pruitt's fault. Don't take my opinion, I thought Shuler was gonna be a HOF NFL QB.
 
#73
#73
Well, in fairness I should've probably said HB looked lost to me. Yes, I know he can and did complete a bunch of short passes to the RB but it seems like he just stepped on campus. That probably what Pruitt sees but then again it could be Pruitt's fault. Don't take my opinion, I thought Shuler was gonna be a HOF NFL QB.
HB went thru progressions and then dumped
it off to the rb in the middle which was what the defense was giving him. He seemed light light years ahead of JG who likely would have been sacked in a few of those plays, hmHe is the future now.
 
#74
#74
Jimmy haslam is worth 2.9 billion and wouldn’t realize the 12 million missing in the buyout even in this year and there are multiple millionaires on the board. Yet this dingy thinks the university itself pays the buyout.
So Haslam will save the day?
Or Haslam is the reason we are in the mess?

I for one would like to quit suckling the corporate teet, because I’ll be honest, it isn’t really there. Not like you think it is.

further more, it isn’t his job to find ways to cough up millions upon millions of dollars every 3 years for this program.

Do you think he became a billionaire by investing in things without giving it time to grow into its own?

You are grossly unaware of the way the world works.
 
#75
#75
So Haslam will save the day?
Or Haslam is the reason we are in the mess?

I for one would like to quit suckling the corporate teet, because I’ll be honest, it isn’t really there. Not like you think it is.

further more, it isn’t his job to find ways to cough up millions upon millions of dollars every 3 years for this program.

Do you think he became a billionaire by investing in things without giving it time to grow into its own?

You are grossly unaware of the way the world works.
It would be nice if UT could ween itself off the Haslam teet...
 
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