It’s a QB game

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ThreatLevelOrange said:
When doing research for this post, i see JG has thrown for 38 career TDs. Didn’t Peyton throw for 36 his final year at UT?
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I honestly cannot think of a worse QB who has started in more games at UT ever. At least not in my lifetime. The fact that we are in year 3 under Pruitt and we still do not have another QB on campus thats a better option is the biggest red flag of his program.
 
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Next year is JG’s year! Thanks to Covid he will get a 6th year all you doubters will see what he can do.
 
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sjt18 said:
JG was just badly overrated.
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Yep. He is one of those 4 star failures who just didn’t have all the skills needed to play in the SEC. I’m sure he was really good in HS - as was JJ Peterson and a host of other kids who get to college and just can’t handle the speed and complexity of the college game.

Now that Bailey has had about 8 weeks of practice I hope he gets into the game early and plays Like we all hope he will. If he can come in early in the second quarter and lead the team them JG will be the backup going forward.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
If you have a QB who can play, you want the ball in his hands. The stud true freshman for Clemson threw 41 passes in his first start. He was the difference in the game.

JG has never thrown 41 times in a game. He’s been playing for 3 1/2 years. Interesting comparison I thought.
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wonder how many rotations with the 1's he got before this week...all these QB's today have been playing ball in different systems and 7 on 7 camps their entire lives. If our QB's can't grasp our concepts, maybe we're too complicated in our system.
 
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Tnphil said:
My son played football in the NAIA for 4 years back in the early to mid 90's....Played on 2 quarterfinal teams and 1 semifinal team.....I can tell you first hand JG would not have started my sons 4 years.
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Look at Michael Pennix at Indiana wanted to be a Vol, they cut him loose. Heard Sam Howell (UNC) wanted to be a Vol... No doubt a QB is the difference.
 
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sjt18 said:
Weinke doesn't decide who plays. His job is to develop the QBs. Truthfully though. Mullen chose Franks. If not for his injury, Trask likely never starts. And coaches can help a guy reach his potential... they can't make a guy's ceiling higher than it is.

JG was just badly overrated.
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Let's say you are in your 20s and you are going to the bar. You are getting no action. You keep wearing the same outfit. You dont wash it, you dont iron it, or protect it from the elements. You have other outfits in the closet (a highly thought of outfit) but you keep wearing the same outfit. Other guys are wearing cheaper made clothes but they iron them, clean them, and match it with other pieces. They are getting action.

So whose fault is it with your lack of action: You or your outfits?
 
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I live in SE Alabama, follow Troy. The paper always says good things about this team. The starting QB Gunnar Watson won the pre season against other QBs. Wow, he’s big, athletic and strong armed. I think 5-1. Troy could eat our lunch. They don’t get a ton of 4 stars, mostly 3s. Why is TN still making excuses for the coach and QB?
 
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sjt18 said:
Weinke doesn't decide who plays. His job is to develop the QBs. Truthfully though. Mullen chose Franks. If not for his injury, Trask likely never starts. And coaches can help a guy reach his potential... they can't make a guy's ceiling higher than it is.

JG was just badly overrated.
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See, I don't think he we was. If you go back and watch his high school play, he looks like Dobbs with a better arm. What no one realized that the time, was that he was never going to be able to play up to college speed. So all of those ratings, are gone when that became apparent.

Here were now, 5 years later, watching him go out and continuously struggle to play a game that is now too fast for him.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Let's say you are in your 20s and you are going to the bar. You are getting no action. You keep wearing the same outfit. You dont wash it, you dont iron it, or protect it from the elements. You have other outfits in the closet (a highly thought of outfit) but you keep wearing the same outfit. Other guys are wearing cheaper made clothes but they iron them, clean them, and match it with other pieces. They are getting action.

So whose fault is it with your lack of action: You or your outfits?
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I need a few beers before answering that, and the girls in the bar need a few more than me.
Ok, I have the answer, I need to drink more beers on football Saturdays than I already do.
 
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BeardedVol said:
See, I don't think he we was. If you go back and watch his high school play, he looks like Dobbs with a better arm. What no one realized that the time, was that he was never going to be able to play up to college speed. So all of those ratings, are gone when that became apparent.

Here were now, 5 years later, watching him go out and continuously struggle to play a game that is now too fast for him.
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You have to consider the level of competition. New Jersey isn't exactly known as being a hot bed for elite level division 1 talent. Its not like JG played for St. Thomas Aquinas.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
You have to consider the level of competition. New Jersey isn't exactly known as being a hot bed for elite level division 1 talent. Its not like JG played for St. Thomas Aquinas.
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He was still making good QB decisions at the slower speed of high school ball. He'd run out of the pocket when it collapsed, step into a pocket and take a shot downfield when left in the pocket by defenders.

He just can't process the speed of SEC college ball. It's why he still looks good in the slower pace of practice, and why we are still suffering through watching the same mistakes 5 years later.

Recruiting rankings are all about potential, JGs potential cratered when he couldn't get up tot he speed of D1 play.
 
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BeardedVol said:
He was still making good QB decisions at the slower speed of high school ball. He'd run out of the pocket when it collapsed, step into a pocket and take a shot downfield when left in the pocket by defenders.

He just can't process the speed of SEC college ball. It's why he still looks good in the slower pace of practice, and why we are still suffering through watching the same mistakes 5 years later.

Recruiting rankings are all about potential, JGs potential cratered when he couldn't get up tot he speed of D1 play.
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If our QBs aren’t facing “real” defense in practice, he looks good.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
If our QBs aren’t facing “real” defense in practice, he looks good.
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It's a failure of Pruitt as a HC to put 100% stock in practice play, while completely disregarding game-day results.

I don't know how he crafted such nonsense "logic" to coach by in the first place, but here we are three years in...
 
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Our defense is average, at best. Special teams are serviceable. The o-line is above average. Our receivers/te's are at least average. RB's are above average, though small. Our QB........well.......sucks on some/most Saturdays. So, we are 2-3. I figured we'd be 3-2, with competitive losses to UGA and Bama. Even with crushing losses to UGA, Bama and UK, we are 1 game off of the pace, but trending downward.
We are, quite simply, one decent QB away from being on track. By decent, I mean, doesn't turn the ball over, and doesn't shoot us in the foot.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
yep. But step 1 is to decide if you’re OK with the results of who you have. Ga had some 5 star redshirt freshman who clearly wasn’t ready. They courted a graduate transfer, a Power 5 transfer, and a Juco transfer all in one offseason.

If our plan is to let Bailey, Salter and JG battle it out next year, it will get dicey. We don’t have the luxury of worrying about our future QB transferring. Winning solves everything.
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JG better not be back next year. 5 years of playing smh.
 
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kbear01 said:
Our defense is average, at best. Special teams are serviceable. The o-line is above average. Our receivers/te's are at least average. RB's are above average, though small. Our QB........well.......sucks on some/most Saturdays. So, we are 2-3. I figured we'd be 3-2, with competitive losses to UGA and Bama. Even with crushing losses to UGA, Bama and UK, we are 1 game off of the pace, but trending downward.
We are, quite simply, one decent QB away from being on track. By decent, I mean, doesn't turn the ball over, and doesn't shoot us in the foot.
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Which would have been understandable, and still clear signs of progress.

That's the problem with the argument of "it's Georgia, it's Alabama", continued blowout losses, to good teams are an indication of a lack of progress, and throw in a blowout loss at home to a team like Kentucky, and you really have to start entertaining the thought, that Pruitt is on the same path as Dooley and Butch.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Dobbs single handedly made Butch like a good coach for a while. I appreciate him more and more.
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Just think if Butch had found him in 2016 . I am starting to think Pruitt is building the team around then he will go with the best QB. I think his plan has always been make it to year 4 and go with a new QB.
 
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