Understanding Jeremy Pruitt's philosophical difference with Jimmy Brumbaugh

[marcusluvsvols]

I am a fairly intelligent person, not a Rhodes Scholar, but well above the average bear...
Also played ball thru HS and have a firm understanding of defense in particular, as I always played only defense...

I have no idea what the Hell they were TRYING to say in that vague, choppy, second hand article....Best I can figure is

" the DL coach wasn't calling the plays he was told to by Pruitt (stunts, bull rush, swim moves, blitzes from different spots and angles, lining up in the gaps they were told etc) "

Is that pretty much what yall gathered from

" yeah, its pretty hard to call em from the front to the back, but yall can see how impossible it would be to call the back from the front...derp, derp, didn't listen to pruitt"

Seems like it was written by Gomer Pyle with special guest Jimmy Hyams

 

[ITSGR82BATNVOL]

Wasnt Brumbaugh Ansley pick, meaning he fit what the DC wanted? CJP IS MESSING up bad

CJP, like Butch Jones, control freak. Any head coach who hires and subsequently fires that same assistant, should be forced to pay that assistants buy out, out of his (head coach's) pocket. That would stop this hire / fire ******** in it's tracks. The end.

 

[cwh1965]

Did he refer to JP as a defensive mastermind?

 

[JohnnyJava]

I am a fairly intelligent person, not a Rhodes Scholar, but well above the average bear...
Also played ball thru HS and have a firm understanding of defense in particular, as I always played only defense...

I have no idea what the Hell they were TRYING to say in that vague, choppy, second hand article....Best I can figure is

" the DL coach wasn't calling the plays he was told to by Pruitt (stunts, bull rush, swim moves, blitzes from different spots and angles, lining up in the gaps they were told etc) "

Is that pretty much what yall gathered from

" yeah, its pretty hard to call em from the front to the back, but yall can see how impossible it would be to call the back from the front...derp, derp, didn't listen to pruitt"

Seems like it was written by Gomer Pyle with special guest Jimmy Hyams

Yep, that article was horrible. It gave an example of their philosophical difference which wasn't an example of their philosophical difference. And that was the best part of it.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

I’ll sue you and your whole crummy airline!!

Keyrock's words are as true in our time as they were in his.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Not that it matters, but you do know that scientists have determined that neanderthals were NOT less intelligent than modern humans, right?

Me like post.
GBO!!

 

[Vol#17]

And UT is paying Ansley 1 Mil a year for what?

Pruitt is on record saying Ansley gives a great post game foot rub, and you can’t put a price on things like that.

 

[VolForLife83]

I think too many of you are overthinking this. Look at each unit just simply adjusting to what the offense is doing.

Have any of you not heard of split defense or combination coverage?

 

[ftsandersvol]

If he’s micromanaging the defense that much, I wonder how much he micromanages the offense.

Enough to be keeping JG at QB.

 

[MWAVolfan]

I said this much more succinctly in another thread. Pruitt told Brumbaugh to do things a certain way. Brumbaugh continued to do things his way. Pruitt said leave then. Classic micromanager. The end.

We have a defensive coordinator that we are paying 4+mill to be a head coach.

 

[bpalmer28]

Calls plays for D line and LBers it says, which seems odd to call only for those units. Ansley adjusts the secondary based on what Pruitt calls.

If he’s micromanaging the defense that much, I wonder how much he micromanages the offense.

My guess would be NONE. Pruitt is a defensive genius... why wouldn't he be heavily involved?

 

[MiramarVol]

I think too many of you are overthinking this. Look at each unit just simply adjusting to what the offense is doing.

Have any of you not heard of split defense or combination coverage?

Man, we was running that when I was in HS back in the late 80's. Folks that haven't heard of it where with Butch in the band.

 

[bpalmer28]

Sounds like too many cooks in the kitchen on the Defensive side of the ball. Would explain a whole lot.

Sounds to me like too many "know it all" morons in this thread chatting about something they know little about. Don't y'all think it's a little crazy to be this critical of Pruitt about defense?

Feel free to think for yourself and opine as you wish, but y'all need to understand that you're probably wrong most every time you disagree with Pruitt about defense.

 

[BeardedVol]

Sounds to me like too many "know it all" morons in this thread chatting about something they know little about. Don't y'all think it's a little crazy to be this critical of Pruitt about defense?

Feel free to think for yourself and opine as you wish, but y'all need to understand that you're probably wrong most every time you disagree with Pruitt about defense.

Why? What accomplishment does Pruitt actually have under his belt on defense? He started out at Alabama under Saban, who runs that defense, spent one season as DC at Florida Stat with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, two seasons as DC at Georgia with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, and then back for two years as DC under Saban, again, with players he didn't recruit or develop.

He's only coached at schools that were flush with talent, and rosters stocked with players that someone else developed.

 

[bpalmer28]

Why? What has accomplishment does Pruitt actually have under his belt on defense? He started out at Alabama under Saban, who runs that defense, spent one season as DC at Florida Stat with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, two seasons as DC at Georgia with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, and then back for two years as DC under Saban, again, with players he didn't recruit or develop.

He's only coached at schools that were flush with talent, and rosters stocked with players that someone else developed.

I'm not responding to this. Do more research.

 

[VolForLife83]

Why? What has accomplishment does Pruitt actually have under his belt on defense? He started out at Alabama under Saban, who runs that defense, spent one season as DC at Florida Stat with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, two seasons as DC at Georgia with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, and then back for two years as DC under Saban, again, with players he didn't recruit or develop.

He's only coached at schools that were flush with talent, and rosters stocked with players that someone else developed.

Look how poor Bamas defense was immediately after he left. Either way, you still have to have talent. And he said last year he was stepping down and letting Ansley do his job. I think this may be part of it. A lot of it too comes down to players executing. Ive seen players whiff more than Ive seen bad calls. Then you have to factor in that we have 2 RBs converted to LB. We have problems and holes everywhere. It's going to take time to fill holes and get the right guys. This defense couldn't buy a run stop 2 years ago.

This defense also gave up about as many points to Bamas hi powered offense as Georgia's highly touted defense did with less talent and no help from the offense sustaining drives.

 

[m1al]

Why? What has accomplishment does Pruitt actually have under his belt on defense? He started out at Alabama under Saban, who runs that defense, spent one season as DC at Florida Stat with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, two seasons as DC at Georgia with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, and then back for two years as DC under Saban, again, with players he didn't recruit or develop.

He's only coached at schools that were flush with talent, and rosters stocked with players that someone else developed.

I've heard you say this before and I'm just not buying it. Yes Pruitt has had talented teams, but he obviously had the ability to coach them well and get the best out of them.. There are plenty of coaches out there that waste talent. Wasn't our last head coach a prime example of that?

 

[BeardedVol]

I've heard you say this before and I'm just not buying it. Yes Pruitt has had talented teams, but he obviously had the ability to coach them well and get the best out of them.. There are plenty of coaches out there that waste talent. Wasn't our last head coach a prime example of that?

So where's the "guru" development? Why is it year 3 and we've got guys that can't line up, take bad angles on every play, and are always playing 5+ yards away from a receiver? Why is is that the opposing teams OC adjusts at half time and Pruitt can't seem to counter-adjust?

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

My guess would be NONE. Pruitt is a defensive genius... why wouldn't he be heavily involved?

That’s what we keep hearing yet we’re not seeing this genius being shown. So they are overpaying a DC to call plays only for the secondary based on Pruitt’s call for the line and linebackers. Why not just make the calls for the whole defense then?

JG being on the field continually is all Pruitt at this point, so he’s definitely making that call for the offense and it’s not helping obviously.

 

[m1al]

So where's the "guru" development? Why is it year 3 and we've got guys that can't line up, take bad angles on every play, and are always playing 5+ yards away from a receiver? Why is is that the opposing teams OC adjusts at half time and Pruitt can't seem to counter-adjust?

Not an insider so I don't know. As far as his previous stints as a DC and the hi level talent he benefited from, I guess they showed up to college ready made with no need of any coaching at all because Pruitt isn't capable, right?

 

[landscapingvol]

Not an insider so I don't know. As far as his previous stints as a DC and the hi level talent he benefited from, I guess they showed up to college ready made with no need of any coaching at all because Pruitt isn't capable, right?

His one year at FSU is irrelevant and Saban’s head coaching tree has really blossomed

 

[The Original Fade]

Why? What has accomplishment does Pruitt actually have under his belt on defense? He started out at Alabama under Saban, who runs that defense, spent one season as DC at Florida Stat with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, two seasons as DC at Georgia with someone else's players that they recruited and developed, and then back for two years as DC under Saban, again, with players he didn't recruit or develop.

He's only coached at schools that were flush with talent, and rosters stocked with players that someone else developed.

Sobering and valid points

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Yep, that article was horrible. It gave an example of their philosophical difference which wasn't an example of their philosophical difference. And that was the best part of it.

Spot on...that article, which never at any point shed light on either coaches "philosophy" on defense, much less any " differences" in their respective beliefs, also was nearly unintelligible as far as I could tell.

Sounded like the " alley chats" that Hank Hill has with Boomhower? Etc if you tried to write down the pure drivel of ole Boom and remove anything intelligent that Hank offered. I am dumber just from reading that article, and didn't really have the brain cells to spare honestly. Journalism is nearly dead.

 

[BeardedVol]

Not an insider so I don't know. As far as his previous stints as a DC and the hi level talent he benefited from, I guess they showed up to college ready made with no need of any coaching at all because Pruitt isn't capable, right?

You believe Pruitt was responsible for the development of the talent at the schools where he only spent 1-2 years at? The majority of which, he didn't even recruit.

 

[m1al]

You believe Pruitt was responsible for the development of the talent at the schools where he only spent 1-2 years at? The majority of which, he didn't even recruit.

Some, not all of course. There have been plenty of players attest to his ability though. I'll take their word over VolNation. Also, I assume he was responsible for game planning/scheming leading up to game day and calling the defense during games.

The man has a good reputation and is a highly thought of coach. Will he eventually be a good HC, I don't know. No one does at this point, but to just dismiss his coaching ability out of hand, is ridiculous.

I get people are pissed right now, but they should try not to let that cloud their judgment of this man and see if things stabalize. We have no choice but to let things play out, might as well not be in a bad mood while we're waiting.