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#35,627
hog88 said:
Having a contractor quote a Generac NG unit next Friday.
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I had a buddy install a Generac 22kw LPG unit with a 500 gallon tank for around $8500. It also had load shedding devices on the water heater and the heat pump resistance elements. It pretty much powered his entire house, but once he had it installed he never had a single power outage again until he moved out.
 
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I was told if you have a 220v outlet, and it is convenient (like in a garage or something) you can simply plug the generator into the outlet, make sure you turn off the main electric supply at the panel (critical step), power up the generator and you're good to go. Won't run the whole house but will power the main stuff like freezers, tvs and such. No need to go through a costly install process.
 
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VolStrom said:
I had a buddy install a Generac 22kw LPG unit with a 500 gallon tank for around $8500. It also had load shedding devices on the water heater and the heat pump resistance elements. It pretty much powered his entire house, but once he had it installed he never had a single power outage again until he moved out.
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100%.

If you never want another power outage, drop the coin on a generator system. Guaranteed.
 
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McDad said:
I was told if you have a 220v outlet, and it is convenient (like in a garage or something) you can simply plug the generator into the outlet, make sure you turn off the main electric supply at the panel (critical step), power up the generator and you're good to go. Won't run the whole house but will power the main stuff like freezers, tvs and such. No need to go through a costly install process.
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Please don't ever do this. Spend a couple of dimes on a transfer box to allow the generator to power certain circuits and not backfeed the power line when someone doesn't open the main breaker.
 
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VolStrom said:
Please don't ever do this. Spend a couple of dimes on a transfer box to allow the generator to power certain circuits and not backfeed the power line when someone doesn't open the main breaker.
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Why? Once the main is disconnected, what is the issue?
 
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VolStrom said:
Please don't ever do this. Spend a couple of dimes on a transfer box to allow the generator to power certain circuits and not backfeed the power line when someone doesn't open the main breaker.
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Ding...Ding...Ding...I only powered the necessary fuses to survive until power was restored. Did not need my pool heater powered in an outage.
 
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McDad said:
Why? Once the main is disconnected, what is the issue?
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I think he's saying a lot of people don't understand. My brother in law had a friend bring us a portable generator after the tornado damage; since we didn't have an accessible 220 outlet, we wired into the circuit breaker box - a real nice reminder to turn off the main breaker. I'm not exactly a novice, but I felt a lot more confident seeing the installation done by an electrician the first time.
 
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hog88 said:
Having a contractor quote a Generac NG unit next Friday.
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I got lucky. My contractor was trying to become a Generac distributor when I was building my house. He sold me at cost to help him make his qualifying order. $5,500, but that was 15 years ago.
 
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VolStrom said:
Because backfeeding the power line can kill someone. You can't guarantee that you'll always be there to know to open the main disconnect.
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Oh FFS. As long as a person is careful, there is no issue. For example, I've disconnected all the safety kill switches on my mower and can count the number of times on the only hand and foot i still have when they protected me.
 
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VolStrom said:
Please don't ever do this. Spend a couple of dimes on a transfer box to allow the generator to power certain circuits and not backfeed the power line when someone doesn't open the main breaker.
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I have a manual box I can plug a generator up to but we do hope to travel more over the next few years.
 
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AM64 said:
I think he's saying a lot of people don't understand. My brother in law had a friend bring us a portable generator after the tornado damage; since we didn't have an accessible 220 outlet, we wired into the circuit breaker box - a real nice reminder to turn off the main breaker. I'm not exactly a novice, but I felt a lot more confident seeing the installation done by an electrician the first time.
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Well I can understand why the aged, and those who are mentally dull would need to take precaution. But us young 50 year old whippersnappers can handle it.
 
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McDad said:
Oh FFS. As long as a person is careful, there is no issue. For example, I've disconnected all the safety kill switches on my mower and can count the number of times on the only hand and foot i still have when they protected me.
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Yeah, but. McDad, people like you are a dying breed. I swear a lot of people are barely competent to plug in a lamp these days.
 
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McDad said:
Oh FFS. As long as a person is careful, there is no issue. For example, I've disconnected all the safety kill switches on my mower and can count the number of times on the only hand and foot i still have when they protected me.
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What a douche bag. It just takes a millisecond to kill someone, but you seem to know so much about electricity go for it.
 
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McDad said:
We all have a responsibility to cull the weak from the gene pool. Darwinism only works when we stop protecting the stupid.
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Do you climb a pole to repair power lines and expect no power to ever flow through them when you open a switch? Why don't you call the power company and get their take on what you propose to do and why it's a bad idea.
 
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