The Hunter Biden Thread

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BowlBrother85 said:
Rudy Giuliani has been so desperate to come up with dirt on Joe Biden that his involvement in this taints the whole thing. Maybe if someone else had handled this alleged laptop of Hunter Biden's the story would have some sense of legitimacy to it. It has been well established that Giuliani has contacts with Russian agents who have peddled conspiracy theories about the Bidens. He has zero credibility and he is willing to advance stories that he knows are not true.

I've heard similar sentiments about the "unmasking probe" and "spygate" but nothing ever comes from them. I don't think I am going to be disappointed with anything, including the results in the electoral college on November 3rd.
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The CEO of Hunter's business dealings with Burisma (and China...and Russia...) has released a statement confirming the emails, Joe's identity as "The Big Guy", and Joe's activity making decisions and running the business.

Methinks you're trying to make this singularly about Rudy for one reason only. You're literally protecting this apparent corruption because it implicates your guy.

As a reminder, you bought every morsel of the unproven Russian collusion, defended impeaching the president because of the "suspicions" of the whistleblower, and mocked Trumpers because unnamed sources were all you needed against Trump.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The CEO of Hunter's business dealings with Burisma (and China...and Russia...) has released a statement confirming the emails, Joe's identity as "The Big Guy", and Joe's activity making decisions and running the business.

Methinks you're trying to make this singularly about Rudy for one reason only. You're literally protecting this apparent corruption because it implicates your guy.

As a reminder, you bought every morsel of the unproven Russian collusion, defended impeaching the president because of the "suspicions" of the whistleblower, and mocked Trumpers because unnamed sources were all you needed against Trump.
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There is nothing which "implicates" Joe Biden in any wrongdoing at all. You can not prove that there was ever any such meeting.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, it is, because Giuliani handled the "evidence". If there is incriminating material on this laptop, there is no way to know who put it there. It could have been Hunter Biden, or it could have been someone working on behalf of the Trump campaign, seeking to damage Biden's campaign. Giuliani's involvement in this is not only suspiciously convenient... it also calls into question whether or not this laptop has been tampered with while in Giuliani's custody.

Someone else (literally anyone else) should have handled this - if it is legitimate.
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I'll repeat myself. Third party with ability to know has corroborated it. You're yet to even acknowledge him.

Rudy has a COPY of the hard drive, which can be corroborated with other copies and the original.

I deal with chain of evidence as a profession. Especially with digital evidence, Rudy's involvement has no problems at all as long as there is an original to compare to, and especially if it's been validated by other sources--such as the CEO of Biden's company.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'll repeat myself. Third party with ability to know has corroborated it. You're yet to even acknowledge him.

Rudy has a COPY of the hard drive, which can be corroborated with other copies and the original.

I deal with chain of evidence as a profession. Especially with digital evidence, Rudy's involvement has no problems at all as long as there is an original to compare to, and especially if it's been validated by other sources--such as the CEO of Biden's company.
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Once again, you have no proof of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden... NOTHING. Rudy's involvement taints everything.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is nothing which "implicates" Joe Biden in any wrongdoing at all. You can not prove that there was ever any such meeting.
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There is the statement of the former CEO of the company in question, which specifically implicates Quid Pro Joe "the Big Guy" Biden.

Again... Let's revisit your standard of proof for Trump, which was statements by nameless people who may or may not have existed.

Why the change of standard all of a sudden?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'll repeat myself. Third party with ability to know has corroborated it. You're yet to even acknowledge him.

Rudy has a COPY of the hard drive, which can be corroborated with other copies and the original.

I deal with chain of evidence as a profession. Especially with digital evidence, Rudy's involvement has no problems at all as long as there is an original to compare to, and especially if it's been validated by other sources--such as the CEO of Biden's company.
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You are speaking to a "post.
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Orange_Crush said:
There is the statement of the former CEO of the company in question, which specifically implicates Quid Pro Joe "the Big Guy" Biden.

Again... Let's revisit your standard of proof for Trump, which was statements by nameless people who may or may not have existed.

Why the change of standard all of a sudden?
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You have no proof any meeting taking place involving Joe Biden.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Rudy Giuliani has been so desperate to come up with dirt on Joe Biden that his involvement in this taints the whole thing. Maybe if someone else had handled this alleged laptop of Hunter Biden's the story would have some sense of legitimacy to it. It has been well established that Giuliani has contacts with Russian agents who have peddled conspiracy theories about the Bidens. He has zero credibility and he is willing to advance stories that he knows are not true.

I've heard similar sentiments about the "unmasking probe" and "spygate" but nothing ever comes from them. I don't think I am going to be disappointed with anything, including the results in the electoral college on November 3rd.
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Why do you think that Obama said "Joe, you don't have to do this?"
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Once again, you have no proof of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden... NOTHING. Rudy's involvement taints everything.
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Orange_Crush said:
There is the statement of the former CEO of the company in question, which specifically implicates Quid Pro Joe "the Big Guy" Biden.

Again... Let's revisit your standard of proof for Trump, which was statements by nameless people who may or may not have existed.

Why the change of standard all of a sudden?
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The statement is linked several times in these threads. You don't even have to go to the Post or Fox News to see it. Why are you denying that it exists?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You have no proof any meeting taking place involving Joe Biden.
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Orange_Crush said:
There is the statement of the former CEO of the company in question, which specifically implicates Quid Pro Joe "the Big Guy" Biden.

Again... Let's revisit your standard of proof for Trump, which was statements by nameless people who may or may not have existed.

Why the change of standard all of a sudden?
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Bump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is a categorical denial in there. Your post demonstrates one thing: people will believe whatever best suits their political interests, especially this close to an election.

Rudy Giuliani has no credibility left on the subject of Joe Biden. Giuliani has been aggressively pursuing any dirt possible on Biden for over a year now... and whether or not that dirt is even truthful has not been a matter of significance to him.

Giuliani's word is good enough for you? Of course, it is... because he is saying what you wish to hear.
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No but emails with validated metadata and first hand accounts are which is exactly where we are today. If Joe ignores it then that’s as good as confirmation.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, it is, because Giuliani handled the "evidence". If there is incriminating material on this laptop, there is no way to know who put it there. It could have been Hunter Biden, or it could have been someone working on behalf of the Trump campaign, seeking to damage Biden's campaign. Giuliani's involvement in this is not only suspiciously convenient... it also calls into question whether or not this laptop has been tampered with while in Giuliani's custody.

Someone else (literally anyone else) should have handled this laptop - if it is legitimate.
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He handled a copy. The actual laptop is in possession of the fbi.
 
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utvols88 said:
He handled a copy. The actual laptop is in possession of the fbi.
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We really don't know what he handled... at this point, you have to take Rudy's word for too much of this story. He has lied about having dirt on the Bidens in the past and his agenda is simply too obvious. It is way too convenient that he has been at the center of this story two weeks before the election.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
We really don't know what he handled... at this point, you have to take Rudy's word for too much of this story. He has lied about having dirt on the Bidens in the past and his agenda is simply too obvious. It is way too convenient that he has been at the center of this story two weeks before the election.
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The fbi has been in possession of it prior to Rudy having his copy. Stop it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
We really don't know what he handled... at this point, you have to take Rudy's word for too much of this story. He has lied about having dirt on the Bidens in the past and his agenda is simply too obvious. It is way too convenient that he has been at the center of this story two weeks before the election.
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No we don't. We can take the former CEO's word for it. He's verified the emails, as a recipient. He's also verified that Joe is "Mr. Big" mentioned in the emails, and that Joe was making business decisions--all after Joe claimed not even discuss Hunter's business with him.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
We really don't know what he handled... at this point, you have to take Rudy's word for too much of this story. He has lied about having dirt on the Bidens in the past and his agenda is simply too obvious. It is way too convenient that he has been at the center of this story two weeks before the election.
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Uh, the FBI got the laptop in Dec. 2019. Rudy's attorney Robert Costello was only contacted much later (September 2020) by the computer store owner, when he had not heard back from the FBI for 9 months.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
No we don't. We can take the former CEO's word for it. He's verified the emails, as a recipient. He's also verified that Joe is "Mr. Big" mentioned in the emails, and that Joe was making business decisions--all after Joe claimed not even discuss Hunter's business with him.
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Has the CEO verified that there is child porn on the laptop? Because that is what Rudy implied in the NY Post story. And once again, you have no proof that any such meeting involving Joe Biden ever actually took place.
 
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