Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[TurnoverTrashCan]

I wish my wife believed in me the way CJP does JG

 

[Weezer]

Tennessee football is why Tennessee needs to legalize marijuana.

 

[butchna]

It's gut check time for coaches and players both, IMO.

Gotta start showing something. Can’t wait for an easy win...cuz Arkansas ain’t it.

 

[Ace]

Sunday night in the Green Bay - Tampa Bay game, Aaron Rodgers threw a pick 6 and another INT early in the game. Green Bay never recovered. Rodgers never recovered. Turnovers are team killers. We do not need a superstar QB, but we need a QB who values and protects the ball. JG has proven over the past two weeks that he is not that guy. It is time for a change

 

[butchna]

So Pruitt prior contract was set to run out this year ?

Was set to expire in 2023. This “kicks in” next year and extends it two years til 2025. You usually pretend to KNOW better than what you’re displaying.

 

[VolGee4]

I mean, that does sound strange in a vacuum, but we live in a world where Jim Harbaugh has sleepovers with recruits.

Sounds like he wanted others to do his work.

 

[BruinVol]

Was set to expire in 2023. This “kicks in” next year and extends it two years til 2025. You usually pretend to KNOW better than what you’re displaying.

The only thing that matters is is the extension signed currently and binding?

if so your wording is at best misleading in that it leads one to believe it isn’t already in place and binding

 

[KB5252]

I will say this, with what I know and have heard about Pruitt I never thought I would see a game where we were poorly prepared and poorly coached but that's what this looks like to me. No doubt covid plays a part here but others teams are dealing with those same challenges.

I would love to see improvement vs Bama but I don't expect it and won't feel any worse if we fail to show improvement. The only thing I do worry about is the psyche of this team afterward.

How we deal with and look in the Arkansas game with a week to prepare will dictate the second half of the season. It's a tall order to get things back on track, Pruitt has a tough row to hoe the rest of the season. If he can't get this team together a tough job will have become much tougher.

 

[butchna]

The only thing that matters is is the extension signed currently and binding?

if so your wording is at best misleading in that it leads one to believe it isn’t already in place and binding

The only thing that matters is that it doesn’t kick in til next season and that you’re misleading yourself into senselessly arguing with me.

 

[VolGee4]

I will say this, with what I know and have heard about Pruitt I never thought I would see a game where we were poorly prepared and poorly coached but that's what this looks like to me. No doubt covid plays a part here but others teams are dealing with those same challenges.

I would love to see improvement vs Bama but I don't expect it and won't feel any worse if we fail to show improvement. The only thing I do worry admit is the psyche of this team afterward.

How we deal with and look in the Arkansas game with a week to prepare will dictate the second half of the season. It's a tall order to get things back on track, Pruitt has a tough row to hoe the rest of the season. If he can't get this team together a tough job will have become much tougher.

Regardless, it's kind of a free year. Sure, we want to look like we've improved, but we all knew this coming in. I'm sure other teams had to deal with issues, too, but the pandemic was a challenge.

I don't know if we see Bailey this week, but I am thinking they are trying to use 2 weeks to get him ready. I agree about the Arkansas game.

 

[Jwbvol]

Regardless, it's kind of a free year. Sure, we want to look like we've improved, but we all knew this coming in. I'm sure other teams had to deal with issues, too, but the pandemic was a challenge.

I don't know if we see Bailey this week, but I am thinking they are trying to use 2 weeks to get him ready. I agree about the Arkansas game.

I'd agree but I can't because recruiting is still at stake.

 

[drvenner]

Would you all rather go 4-6 with HB as the starter or 5-5 with JG as the starter? This is a tough one for me because I want to win every game but I think with JG it is past the point of no return with most fans. Everyone is ready for him to move on.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Would you all rather go 4-6 with HB as the starter or 5-5 with JG as the starter? This is a tough one for me because I want to win every game but I think with JG it is past the point of no return with most fans. Everyone is ready for him to move on.

I’d rather win the extra game.

But I legitimately do not think there is a one game difference between JG and HB. I think it’s larger.

 

[TurnoverTrashCan]

Would you all rather go 4-6 with HB as the starter or 5-5 with JG as the starter? This is a tough one for me because I want to win every game but I think with JG it is past the point of no return with most fans. Everyone is ready for him to move on.

4-6 with HB. I think he has the potential to lead us to an upset, though. We (and everyone else) know who JG is.

 

[Specks]

The extension starts next year, the raise starts next year...it doesn’t “kick in” til next year.

Pruitt’s new deal is worth $4.2 million annually, but he has chosen not to accept the $400,000 raise this year to help Tennessee in its challenges during the ongoing pandemic.

Why didn’t Vols head coach Jeremy Pruitt accept $400k raise?

 

[KB5252]

Regardless, it's kind of a free year. Sure, we want to look like we've improved, but we all knew this coming in. I'm sure other teams had to deal with issues, too, but the pandemic was a challenge.

I don't know if we see Bailey this week, but I am thinking they are trying to use 2 weeks to get him ready. I agree about the Arkansas game.

This year is very important to us, particularly because of recruiting. Because there are no out of conference games every game is much more important. Once it all pans out your will see the difference between the haves and the have nots by record. Wins were going to be challenging this year, we've failed to close on one of our better chances.

 

[butchna]

Would you all rather go 4-6 with HB as the starter or 5-5 with JG as the starter? This is a tough one for me because I want to win every game but I think with JG it is past the point of no return with most fans. Everyone is ready for him to move on.

If you could GUARANTEE the 5th win...then GUARANTANO. But you can’t. That was my only rationale for backing the idea of JG being the best option...that’s dead to me.

 

[VolGee4]

I'd agree but I can't because recruiting is still at stake.

Sure, but the one thing our staff seemed to do well during the pandemic was recruit. If we go 5-5, I don't think you will have a huge dropoff.

 

[VolGee4]

This year is very important to us, particularly because of recruiting. Because there are no out of conference games every game is much more important. Once it all pans out your will see the difference between the haves and the have nots by record. Wins were going to be challenging this year, we've failed to close on one of our better chances.

You are going to see alot of 4-6, 5-5, and 6-4 records. The haves are Bama and UGA....then the rest. Maybe UF and A&M are a little better.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Would you all rather go 4-6 with HB as the starter or 5-5 with JG as the starter? This is a tough one for me because I want to win every game but I think with JG it is past the point of no return with most fans. Everyone is ready for him to move on.

I've went back and forth on this. I'm torn. Ultimately recruiting is the most important, and if we lose more games that could hurt recruiting. But, the team would be better in 2021 if we get Bailey experience now. It's a tough question. If we're going to take a risk with HB and the young guys, I'd call all of the recruits and tell them what we're doing, "we may lose a few games guys, but we'll be better off for it in 2021" and make sure they were understanding and that the results on the field didn't scare them. Of course, with the way JG is currently playing, he is broken, I'm not sure it makes a difference tbh.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I got "shook" with JG's play in the second half of the UGA game. KY was just a total collapse. If it were California, it would have fallen into the ocean. We cannot continue to trot JG out there and pretend things are fine.

I agree, but I feel like Pruitt is between a rock and hard place given that it’s Bama. People want Bailey, but from all accounts he doesn’t have the reps and do we want to give him his first start against Saban? I’m sure plenty will argue their reasons for that, but I understand being hesitant in doing so. I’m fact I’d say start him in every other game remaining on the schedule. Especially given that we have a bye after the Bama game.

 

[Ace]

I will say this, with what I know and have heard about Pruitt I never thought I would see a game where we were poorly prepared and poorly coached but that's what this looks like to me. No doubt covid plays a part here but others teams are dealing with those same challenges.

I would love to see improvement vs Bama but I don't expect it and won't feel any worse if we fail to show improvement. The only thing I do worry about is the psyche of this team afterward.

How we deal with and look in the Arkansas game with a week to prepare will dictate the second half of the season. It's a tall order to get things back on track, Pruitt has a tough row to hoe the rest of the season. If he can't get this team together a tough job will have become much tougher.

You are correct. Pruitt will be measured by the teams performance beginning with Arkansas. This team is capable of winning out and finishing 7-3. They are also capable of losing every game with the exception of Vandy and finishing 3-7. Most of this is an offensive problem. We need Chaney to step up. The defense has proven that they can play with anyone (ie - UGA) if the offense can give them a little help.

 

[RikidyBones]

I agree, but I feel like Pruitt is between a rock and hard place given that it’s Bama. People want Bailey, but from all accounts he doesn’t have the reps and do we want to give him his first start against Saban? I’m sure plenty will argue their reasons for that, but I understand being hesitant in doing so. I’m fact I’d say start him in every other game remaining on the schedule. Especially given that we have a bye after the Bama game.

I think alot of people want JG to start to initiate his journey to Valhalla and then ride with Bailey the rest of the way.

 

[turdherder11]

Tyson helton go 9-4 his 1st year as a HC @ wku?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Still can beat Arkansas, Auburn, A&M, Vandy & Florida.

7-3 until it ain’t!!!! GBO