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Volator said:
Joey Kent is on a post game call in show on 104.5 in Nashville. He said Shrout should have never made that throw “he just can’t “. Said it was his opportunity and doubtful he plays again. I inferred this was a consistent problem for him (making throws he shouldn’t which is somewhat backed up by his HS stats.
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I hope he doesn’t. Just ride with the guy who has the highest ceiling at this point. If he doesn’t work out hope you hit on salter. Tired of trotting out guys who have never been good quarterbacks (JG was pedestrian at best in hs)
 
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Volator said:
Joey Kent is on a post game call in show on 104.5 in Nashville. He said Shrout should have never made that throw “he just can’t “. Said it was his opportunity and doubtful he plays again. I inferred this was a consistent problem for him (making throws he shouldn’t which is somewhat backed up by his HS stats.
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I completely agree. It was a dumb throw
 
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It’s hard to believe that the closest we got to breaking through and being back was under Butch Jones. Thought we were ahead of schedule after Mizzou, but it’s been a nightmare since halftime against UGA. 61-7 we’ve been outscored since then. It is perilously easy to fall right back into the cellar, and somehow we’ve managed it.
 
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MrVolton said:
Things I’d like to see happen before the day’s out:
1. Bench JG
2. Send Weinke packing and replace with Osovet.
3. Promote Chip Long to replace O as TE coach.
4. Send Friend packing and replace with Alex Jackson.
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As much as I’d like for some of that to happen, I don’t believe enough in CJP to make the tough necessary changes. I’m afraid he’s too loyal.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
The defense played fine man...there are still big holes in the roster..and the rust is showing bad on Sham...just like I thought it would.

The lack of a real offseason destroyed development of young guys on tge Defense and OL.
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I think the defense has been decent to good. Can be much better.
 
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After sleeping on it, here's what I think we saw the last two weeks.

We have a team that can run the ball, but we aren't 90s Nebraska. We HAVE to have a complimentary passing game. Georgia looked at our rushing numbers versus 3rd down numbers the first two weeks and correctly diagnosed our problem - Guarantano is still our weak link. He'll occasionally toss a dime down the field, but is not going to be efficient in the short and immediate game because he doesn't have the accuracy and still doesn't consistently make the right reads under pressure.

So, what did they do? They brought pressure, and they kept bringing it, and they played the odds. They were willing to take the risk of getting beat deep in exchange for pressuring JG into making mistakes. They felt better about their DBs holding up than JG's ability to string together drives under duress. Even when we beat them deep a couple times to take the lead, they doubled down after half time and the odds paid off. Their elite front seven were just better than JGs ability to quickly diagnose where to burn them. Then once we were in a hole, and their defensive linemen didn't have to worry about the run, we were toast.

Meanwhile, on defense we were doing fantastic against Georgia, until they started getting gassed because the offense kept coughing the ball up in bad places. Pruitt's response has generally been to resort to blitzes from edge, which means the safeties and linebackers have to rotate out to cover that vacated space. So, we did well when we could play a regular defense and force Bennett to throw to the outside. Once our defense got gassed, we ended up giving Bennett the middle of the field, which was where the numbers throughout the season have much much, much better, because he has dog@#$ for arm strength, but he's accurate. I think this is the issue with covering slants that keeps happening over and over again. Pruitt has a tendency to press, and when he does, it comes from the edge, and everyone knows it, and knows to beat Pruitt's blitzes with slants.

We played right into Georgia's strengths and wondered why it looked like we walked into a woodchipper by the fourth quarter. They knew JG was going to be too inconsistent to sustain drives and were willing to live with getting beat deep, and that once our defense was gassed and Pruitt started bringing pressure, you could throw slants.

Fast forward to Kentucky. They watched the Georgia game film. I wouldn't be surprised if their game plan was based around the expectation that Tennessee was either going to run, or throw go-routes or out-routes. We have a lot more beef up front, and we don't trust JG in the middle of the field. Stoops isn't an idiot. He's probably thinking "we need to hold up in run defense, and then coach our guys to jump the out routes. Georgia gambled on letting JG have the deep ball, and so should we."

What happened? On the one drive where we able to string together only run plays, we scored. On the other drives where JG threw the ball, UK was waiting out there to ambush out routes and did not give two f@#$s about getting beat deep. Why did our defense get whipped in the second half? I was so mad that I literally had to leave the house and go run some errands, but I'm willing to bet they were gassed, Pruitt was pushing, and Eddie Gran dinked and dunked past our pressure and ran counter play after counter play. We've seen this movie before, and I didn't feel like watching it again.

I think sometimes complex situations have simple solutions: After five years, it should be clear that JG is not that guy, and will never be that guy. It's time to move on.

You got a fifth year senior who has never had consistently above average numbers, particularly completion percentage, dating back to his time in high school.

And over there on the sideline you got Harrison Bailey, who for four years shredded fools in Georgia, making big throws in big games over and over again against elite competition. Marietta won a state championship with him. They are now 1-4 without him. Chaney needs to dust off that UGA playbook from Fromm's freshmen year and we don't need to look back, especially since this is a free year in regards to eligibility.
 
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rjd970 said:
In no world are we only 17 points worse than Bama. We will be 21 down after Bama’s first three possessions, and if JG plays probably more because we all know he is good for at least one pick-6.

This one will be a slaughter.
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Most likely and that's what I expect. But Football is a funny game and maybe just maybe. Idk im trying to be positive it beats admitting that we suck
 
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