My thoughts on the Kentucky game, after sleeping on it

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It would be difficult to add to what has already been said about the Kentucky game. There wasn't a lot of positive to take from this.

-Obviously, QB play killed us. We knew last week that JG wasn't going to get us through the season. But I didn't expect this. He usually plays okay against the Kentuckys of the world. But he was abysmal. I'm hard pressed to think of a time a QB killed Tennessee more in a single game. Maybe Peterman at Florida, but that was a freshman starting his first game in The Swamp (I'll allude to that later), this is a 5th year senior with a ton of experience. Worse, the team has given up on him. That much was obvious. After the second pick 6, they seemed to slowly fade. While I'm not saying we don't have concerns elsewhere, I will say that QB is the most important position in sports: a good one can hide other deficiencies and a bad one can make deficiencies where there otherwise aren't any. Guarantano is not only NOT lifting this team up, he's making it worse than it actually is. He took a sack in the first half that was absurd. All he had to do was feel pressure, which WASN'T FROM THE BLIND SIDE, BUT IN HIS FACE, step up, avoid pressure, and make a throw. Instead he stood there, like someone standing in front of a truck attempting suicide. It would've blown my mind if I hadn't seen it so often before.

-This staff needs to get Bailey ready. Shrout and Maurer obviously aren't the answers. After the Kentucky loss, you stand to gain nothing from this season except two things:

1) Prepare for next season.
2) Try to possibly upset Florida. Beating Florida would salvage some good from this season. And it's possible with good QB play.

Starting Bailey and getting him ready is the best way to accomplish both of those. You're not going to beat Florida with Guarantano, Shrout, or Maurer. Bailey has the highest upside and the closer you get him to that upside, the better for the team. You have until December 5 to get him ready for Florida. He'll get better as the year goes on, then you go into next season knowing who your QB is, which is best for him and best for the team.

That said, I would NOT start him against Alabama. You don't want to kill a true freshman's confidence by giving him his first start against that defense...just as they did to Peterman in The Swamp. Let JG, Shrout, or whoever take his lumps against Bama. As soon as that game is over, make Bailey your #1 and go into the off week with a plan to get him up ton speed as quickly as possible, with 2 weeks before Arkansas.

-That's also true for other freshmen. After Bama, start involving Wideman, Beckwith, Eason, Hyatt, and others.

-Eric Gray played well. I'll say that.

-The offensive line looked good run blocking...and that's not nothing against a very good Kentucky front. Unfortunately, JG's turnovers put Tennessee behind the 8-ball so early that Tennessee couldn't line up and run the ball whenever they wanted. But I'm convinced that if Tennessee had just run the ball every play on offense, this would have been a close game. Tennessee may have even won.

-The defense played a good first half. And I don't think they played poorly in the 2nd half (which they did) because they were tired. Like the rest of the team, I think they got defeated. They've seen the JG shitshow too many times. One more example of how poor QB play can kill a team.

-Many of y'all are the biggest chicken little cryass fans in the world. It's gross. No, it's not time to fire Pruitt. No, Tennessee isn't doomed to be bad forever. But if we keep firing coaches every 3-5 years, we will be. I saw a post asking "what does Pruitt give you besides recruiting?" Well, he's the best defensive mind in Knoxville in a long, long time. His players genuinely like him because he is genuine. He brings accountability. He has an understanding of how championship programs are built and maintained. He'll get Tennessee there. You can either be along for the ride or not. And no, this isn't the worst loss in...whenever. Georgia State was worse. BYU was worse. Kentucky 2011 and 2017 were worse. Some of those Vandy losses were much worse. This is actually a good Kentucky team. Those teams weren't.

This is a weird year. In a normal one, the QB problem would have been addressed in spring because the best QB on the roster would've had an entire spring practice to get up to speed. Instead, Bailey didn't get a spring or a fall practice. Pruitt was left a crap QB room when he took over. It's hard to go land a 5* QB recruit coming off a 4-8 season with terrible OLine play. But in his 2nd full recruiting class, he landed one. He didn't get a chance to develop him early. But he will. And that will make this team look much better. Dan Mullen, on the other hand, looks great because of what he inherited. He got Franks AND Trask (not to mention Kyle Pitts, who committed to the prior staff...and a bevy of other talented players). Think Pruitt wouldn't kill for either? But Pruitt has drastically increased the talent level and player development. He is a first time head coach and he is still learning. That's undeniable. But talk of firing him at this point is ridiculous.

This is kind of a throwaway season anyway. Use it to build the program. Like it or not, that's still happening. We're not there, nor should we be. You don't fire a coach based on the results of this weird year with truncated practice times, players coming and going into quarantine, a weird schedule, no spring practice, etc. I know, "everyone else is dealing with the same thing." True. But everyone else isn't building from what Tennessee was building from. Everyone else doesn't have to deal with no viable QB option from the upper class, so they HAD to rely on the true freshman.

Moreover, should Clemson have fired Dabo after he went 6-7 his third year? Should Tennessee have fired Fulmer after he started 1-3 in his 3rd year with A TON more talent? That team lost to a 3-win UCLA team and a bad Mississippi State team. Common denominator? Bad QB play...until the freshman kind named Manning got up to speed.

Jeremy Pruitt will get the job done at Tennessee. This isn't a Butch Jones or Derek Dooley situation. Feel free to screen shot this and call me on it if I'm wrong in a few years.
 
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It would be difficult to add to what has already been said about the Kentucky game. There wasn't a lot of positive to take from this.

-Obviously, QB play killed us. We knew last week that JG wasn't going to get us through the season. But I didn't expect this. He usually plays okay against the Kentuckys of the world. But he was abysmal. I'm hard pressed to think of a time a QB killed Tennessee more in a single game. Maybe Peterman at Florida, but that was a freshman starting his first game in The Swamp (I'll allude to that later), this is a 5th year senior with a ton of experience. Worse, the team has given up on him. That much was obvious. After the second pick 6, they seemed to slowly fade. While I'm not saying we don't have concerns elsewhere, I will say that QB is the most important position in sports: a good one can hide other deficiencies and a bad one can make deficiencies where there otherwise aren't any. Guarantano is not only NOT lifting this team up, he's making it worse than it actually is. He took a sack in the first half that was absurd. All he had to do was feel pressure, which WASN'T FROM THE BLIND SIDE, BUT IN HIS FACE, step up, avoid pressure, and make a throw. Instead he stood there, like someone standing in front of a truck attempting suicide. It would've blown my mind if I hadn't seen it so often before.

-This staff needs to get Bailey ready. Shrout and Maurer obviously aren't the answers. After the Kentucky loss, you stand to gain nothing from this season except two things:

1) Prepare for next season.
2) Try to possibly upset Florida. Beating Florida would salvage some good from this season. And it's possible with good QB play.

Starting Bailey and getting him ready is the best way to accomplish both of those. You're not going to beat Florida with Guarantano, Shrout, or Maurer. Bailey has the highest upside and the closer you get him to that upside, the better for the team. You have until December 5 to get him ready for Florida. He'll get better as the year goes on, then you go into next season knowing who your QB is, which is best for him and best for the team.

That said, I would NOT start him against Alabama. You don't want to kill a true freshman's confidence by giving him his first start in Tuscaloosa against that defense...just as they did to Peterman in The Swamp. Let JG, Shrout, or whoever take his lumps in Tuscaloosa. As soon as that game is over, make Bailey your #1 and go into the off week with a plan to get him up ton speed as quickly as possible, with 2 weeks before Arkansas.

-That's also true for other freshmen. After Bama, start involving Wideman, Beckwith, Eason, Hyatt, and others.

-Eric Gray played well. I'll say that.

-The offensive line looked good run blocking...and that's not nothing against a very good Kentucky front. Unfortunately, JG's turnovers put Tennessee behind the 8-ball so early that Tennessee couldn't line up and run the ball whenever they wanted. But I'm convinced that if Tennessee had just run the ball every play on offense, this would have been a close game. Tennessee may have even won.

-The defense played a good first half. And I don't think they played poorly in the 2nd half (which they did) because they were tired. Like the rest of the team, I think they got defeated. They've seen the JG shitshow too many times. One more example of how poor QB play can kill a team.

-Many of y'all are the biggest chicken little cryass fans in the world. It's gross. No, it's not time to fire Pruitt. No, Tennessee isn't doomed to be bad forever. But if we keep firing coaches every 3-5 years, we will be. I saw a post asking "what does Pruitt give you besides recruiting?" Well, he's the best defensive mind in Knoxville in a long, long time. His players genuinely like him because he is genuine. He brings accountability. He has an understanding of how championship programs are built and maintained. He'll get Tennessee there. You can either be along for the ride or not. And no, this isn't the worst loss in...whenever. Georgia State was worse. BYU was worse. Kentucky 2011 and 2017 were worse. Some of those Vandy losses were much worse. This is actually a good Kentucky team. Those teams weren't.

This is a weird year. In a normal one, the QB problem would have been addressed in spring because the best QB on the roster would've had an entire spring practice to get up to speed. Instead, Bailey didn't get a spring or a fall practice. Pruitt was left a crap QB room when he took over. It's hard to go land a 5* QB recruit coming off a 4-8 season with terrible OLine play. But in his 2nd full recruiting class, he landed one. He didn't get a chance to develop him early. But he will. And that will make this team look much better. Dan Mullen, on the other hand, looks great because of what he inherited. He got Franks AND Trask (not to mention Kyle Pitts, who committed to the prior staff...and a bevy of other talented players). Think Pruitt wouldn't kill for either? But Pruitt has drastically increased the talent level and player development. He is a first time head coach and he is still learning. That's undeniable. But talk of firing him at this point is ridiculous.

This is kind of a throwaway season anyway. Use it to build the program. Like it or not, that's still happening. We're not there, nor should we be. You don't fire a coach based on the results of this weird year with truncated practice times, players coming and going into quarantine, a weird schedule, no spring practice, etc. I know, "everyone else is dealing with the same thing." True. But everyone else isn't building from what Tennessee was building from. Everyone else doesn't have to deal with no viable QB option from the upper class, so they HAD to rely on the true freshman.

Moreover, should Clemson have fired Dabo after he went 6-7 his third year? Should Tennessee have fired Fulmer after he started 1-3 in his 3rd year with A TON more talent? That team lost to a 3-win UCLA team and a bad Mississippi State team. Common denominator? Bad QB play...until the freshman kind named Manning got up to speed.

Jeremy Pruitt will get the job done at Tennessee. This isn't a Butch Jones or Derek Dooley situation. Feel free to screen shot this and call me on it if I'm wrong in a few years.

Maybe you're right but I just don't see how exactly you can make this declaration. Maybe he will, maybe he won't and maybe it's a Dooley/Jones situation and maybe it isn't. I've yet to see anything to tell me it's definitely different.
 
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The Alabama game is in Knoxville not Tuscaloosa.
After watching UA/UGA last night, the logo on the turf may be different, but for all practical purposes, this game might as well be in Tuscaloosa. OP's post still valid. I would think put Bailey in against Bama's 5th string, which we will see before halftime.
 
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Also no offense but please stop with the Dabo comparisons, that horse has been beaten to death and you know the exact same arguments could (and were) made for Dooley and Jones.

Plus Dabo went 6-7 his actual 2nd year and won his divison in his first full year. This isn't even comparable.
 
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Nice write up with a lot of good points... I agree with you that firing cjp is the answer and i believe and hope he does succeed here in a big way. I dont wanna put words in others mouth but i just think all the frustration is aimed at cjp for not pulling a plug when have to know the plug should be pulled... I mean how many times do you need to boost a car battery before you realize its time to replace that battery.
 
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I agree with everything except not playing Bailey against Bama. He’s a big kid and he’s a winner. He won’t cower or melt against Bama. He will compete and learn from his mistakes.

Playing JG against Bama after he peed the bed against KY just to protect Bailey is chicken **** in my opinion and could backfire. What if JG has a fairly good game against Bama and gives Pruitt hope. He’s prone to have a decent game every now and then. Next thing we know Pruitt trots JG our there against ARK and the team continues to suffer and dwindle in hope.

It’s time to play Bailey now in my opinion. The team is suffering as a result of JG and it appears to me that our fans have better ways to spend their Saturday’s than to watch a **** show with JG under center. The fan base isn’t dwindling but hope is until a much needed QB change is made.
 
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I think Maurer has the most upside in the limited time Ive seem any of them. Like Shrout, he hasn’t been given any kind of fair chance by Pruitt.

I think Maurer played well in spurts last year and deserves a chance as well. He reacts and responds like a quarterback, is more mobile, etc. and may be able to help us win a few games on the back end. I don't think Bailey is anywhere near ready.
 
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It would be difficult to add to what has already been said about the Kentucky game. There wasn't a lot of positive to take from this.

-Obviously, QB play killed us. We knew last week that JG wasn't going to get us through the season. But I didn't expect this. He usually plays okay against the Kentuckys of the world. But he was abysmal. I'm hard pressed to think of a time a QB killed Tennessee more in a single game. Maybe Peterman at Florida, but that was a freshman starting his first game in The Swamp (I'll allude to that later), this is a 5th year senior with a ton of experience. Worse, the team has given up on him. That much was obvious. After the second pick 6, they seemed to slowly fade. While I'm not saying we don't have concerns elsewhere, I will say that QB is the most important position in sports: a good one can hide other deficiencies and a bad one can make deficiencies where there otherwise aren't any. Guarantano is not only NOT lifting this team up, he's making it worse than it actually is. He took a sack in the first half that was absurd. All he had to do was feel pressure, which WASN'T FROM THE BLIND SIDE, BUT IN HIS FACE, step up, avoid pressure, and make a throw. Instead he stood there, like someone standing in front of a truck attempting suicide. It would've blown my mind if I hadn't seen it so often before.

-This staff needs to get Bailey ready. Shrout and Maurer obviously aren't the answers. After the Kentucky loss, you stand to gain nothing from this season except two things:

1) Prepare for next season.
2) Try to possibly upset Florida. Beating Florida would salvage some good from this season. And it's possible with good QB play.

Starting Bailey and getting him ready is the best way to accomplish both of those. You're not going to beat Florida with Guarantano, Shrout, or Maurer. Bailey has the highest upside and the closer you get him to that upside, the better for the team. You have until December 5 to get him ready for Florida. He'll get better as the year goes on, then you go into next season knowing who your QB is, which is best for him and best for the team.

That said, I would NOT start him against Alabama. You don't want to kill a true freshman's confidence by giving him his first start in Tuscaloosa against that defense...just as they did to Peterman in The Swamp. Let JG, Shrout, or whoever take his lumps in Tuscaloosa. As soon as that game is over, make Bailey your #1 and go into the off week with a plan to get him up ton speed as quickly as possible, with 2 weeks before Arkansas.

-That's also true for other freshmen. After Bama, start involving Wideman, Beckwith, Eason, Hyatt, and others.

-Eric Gray played well. I'll say that.

-The offensive line looked good run blocking...and that's not nothing against a very good Kentucky front. Unfortunately, JG's turnovers put Tennessee behind the 8-ball so early that Tennessee couldn't line up and run the ball whenever they wanted. But I'm convinced that if Tennessee had just run the ball every play on offense, this would have been a close game. Tennessee may have even won.

-The defense played a good first half. And I don't think they played poorly in the 2nd half (which they did) because they were tired. Like the rest of the team, I think they got defeated. They've seen the JG shitshow too many times. One more example of how poor QB play can kill a team.

-Many of y'all are the biggest chicken little cryass fans in the world. It's gross. No, it's not time to fire Pruitt. No, Tennessee isn't doomed to be bad forever. But if we keep firing coaches every 3-5 years, we will be. I saw a post asking "what does Pruitt give you besides recruiting?" Well, he's the best defensive mind in Knoxville in a long, long time. His players genuinely like him because he is genuine. He brings accountability. He has an understanding of how championship programs are built and maintained. He'll get Tennessee there. You can either be along for the ride or not. And no, this isn't the worst loss in...whenever. Georgia State was worse. BYU was worse. Kentucky 2011 and 2017 were worse. Some of those Vandy losses were much worse. This is actually a good Kentucky team. Those teams weren't.

This is a weird year. In a normal one, the QB problem would have been addressed in spring because the best QB on the roster would've had an entire spring practice to get up to speed. Instead, Bailey didn't get a spring or a fall practice. Pruitt was left a crap QB room when he took over. It's hard to go land a 5* QB recruit coming off a 4-8 season with terrible OLine play. But in his 2nd full recruiting class, he landed one. He didn't get a chance to develop him early. But he will. And that will make this team look much better. Dan Mullen, on the other hand, looks great because of what he inherited. He got Franks AND Trask (not to mention Kyle Pitts, who committed to the prior staff...and a bevy of other talented players). Think Pruitt wouldn't kill for either? But Pruitt has drastically increased the talent level and player development. He is a first time head coach and he is still learning. That's undeniable. But talk of firing him at this point is ridiculous.

This is kind of a throwaway season anyway. Use it to build the program. Like it or not, that's still happening. We're not there, nor should we be. You don't fire a coach based on the results of this weird year with truncated practice times, players coming and going into quarantine, a weird schedule, no spring practice, etc. I know, "everyone else is dealing with the same thing." True. But everyone else isn't building from what Tennessee was building from. Everyone else doesn't have to deal with no viable QB option from the upper class, so they HAD to rely on the true freshman.

Moreover, should Clemson have fired Dabo after he went 6-7 his third year? Should Tennessee have fired Fulmer after he started 1-3 in his 3rd year with A TON more talent? That team lost to a 3-win UCLA team and a bad Mississippi State team. Common denominator? Bad QB play...until the freshman kind named Manning got up to speed.

Jeremy Pruitt will get the job done at Tennessee. This isn't a Butch Jones or Derek Dooley situation. Feel free to screen shot this and call me on it if I'm wrong in a few years.
Thanks, we needed this. It also seems to be jelling on everyone that bad QB play is a cancer on all aspects of a teams psyche and resulting on the field performance. Thank goodness for that.
 
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I agree with very thing you posted. Missing Spring practice and most of Fall practice was the two worst things that could have happened for Bailey. He had one of his four passes dropped and wisely threw one away in the end zone. He appeared to see the field and make wise decisions. He has a strong arm and showed he can throw with touch. I think he will be a really good QB if he is given the chance after the open week.
 
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It would be difficult to add to what has already been said about the Kentucky game. There wasn't a lot of positive to take from this.

-Obviously, QB play killed us. We knew last week that JG wasn't going to get us through the season. But I didn't expect this. He usually plays okay against the Kentuckys of the world. But he was abysmal. I'm hard pressed to think of a time a QB killed Tennessee more in a single game. Maybe Peterman at Florida, but that was a freshman starting his first game in The Swamp (I'll allude to that later), this is a 5th year senior with a ton of experience. Worse, the team has given up on him. That much was obvious. After the second pick 6, they seemed to slowly fade. While I'm not saying we don't have concerns elsewhere, I will say that QB is the most important position in sports: a good one can hide other deficiencies and a bad one can make deficiencies where there otherwise aren't any. Guarantano is not only NOT lifting this team up, he's making it worse than it actually is. He took a sack in the first half that was absurd. All he had to do was feel pressure, which WASN'T FROM THE BLIND SIDE, BUT IN HIS FACE, step up, avoid pressure, and make a throw. Instead he stood there, like someone standing in front of a truck attempting suicide. It would've blown my mind if I hadn't seen it so often before.

-This staff needs to get Bailey ready. Shrout and Maurer obviously aren't the answers. After the Kentucky loss, you stand to gain nothing from this season except two things:

1) Prepare for next season.
2) Try to possibly upset Florida. Beating Florida would salvage some good from this season. And it's possible with good QB play.

Starting Bailey and getting him ready is the best way to accomplish both of those. You're not going to beat Florida with Guarantano, Shrout, or Maurer. Bailey has the highest upside and the closer you get him to that upside, the better for the team. You have until December 5 to get him ready for Florida. He'll get better as the year goes on, then you go into next season knowing who your QB is, which is best for him and best for the team.

That said, I would NOT start him against Alabama. You don't want to kill a true freshman's confidence by giving him his first start in Tuscaloosa against that defense...just as they did to Peterman in The Swamp. Let JG, Shrout, or whoever take his lumps in Tuscaloosa. As soon as that game is over, make Bailey your #1 and go into the off week with a plan to get him up ton speed as quickly as possible, with 2 weeks before Arkansas.

-That's also true for other freshmen. After Bama, start involving Wideman, Beckwith, Eason, Hyatt, and others.

-Eric Gray played well. I'll say that.

-The offensive line looked good run blocking...and that's not nothing against a very good Kentucky front. Unfortunately, JG's turnovers put Tennessee behind the 8-ball so early that Tennessee couldn't line up and run the ball whenever they wanted. But I'm convinced that if Tennessee had just run the ball every play on offense, this would have been a close game. Tennessee may have even won.

-The defense played a good first half. And I don't think they played poorly in the 2nd half (which they did) because they were tired. Like the rest of the team, I think they got defeated. They've seen the JG shitshow too many times. One more example of how poor QB play can kill a team.

-Many of y'all are the biggest chicken little cryass fans in the world. It's gross. No, it's not time to fire Pruitt. No, Tennessee isn't doomed to be bad forever. But if we keep firing coaches every 3-5 years, we will be. I saw a post asking "what does Pruitt give you besides recruiting?" Well, he's the best defensive mind in Knoxville in a long, long time. His players genuinely like him because he is genuine. He brings accountability. He has an understanding of how championship programs are built and maintained. He'll get Tennessee there. You can either be along for the ride or not. And no, this isn't the worst loss in...whenever. Georgia State was worse. BYU was worse. Kentucky 2011 and 2017 were worse. Some of those Vandy losses were much worse. This is actually a good Kentucky team. Those teams weren't.

This is a weird year. In a normal one, the QB problem would have been addressed in spring because the best QB on the roster would've had an entire spring practice to get up to speed. Instead, Bailey didn't get a spring or a fall practice. Pruitt was left a crap QB room when he took over. It's hard to go land a 5* QB recruit coming off a 4-8 season with terrible OLine play. But in his 2nd full recruiting class, he landed one. He didn't get a chance to develop him early. But he will. And that will make this team look much better. Dan Mullen, on the other hand, looks great because of what he inherited. He got Franks AND Trask (not to mention Kyle Pitts, who committed to the prior staff...and a bevy of other talented players). Think Pruitt wouldn't kill for either? But Pruitt has drastically increased the talent level and player development. He is a first time head coach and he is still learning. That's undeniable. But talk of firing him at this point is ridiculous.

This is kind of a throwaway season anyway. Use it to build the program. Like it or not, that's still happening. We're not there, nor should we be. You don't fire a coach based on the results of this weird year with truncated practice times, players coming and going into quarantine, a weird schedule, no spring practice, etc. I know, "everyone else is dealing with the same thing." True. But everyone else isn't building from what Tennessee was building from. Everyone else doesn't have to deal with no viable QB option from the upper class, so they HAD to rely on the true freshman.

Moreover, should Clemson have fired Dabo after he went 6-7 his third year? Should Tennessee have fired Fulmer after he started 1-3 in his 3rd year with A TON more talent? That team lost to a 3-win UCLA team and a bad Mississippi State team. Common denominator? Bad QB play...until the freshman kind named Manning got up to speed.

Jeremy Pruitt will get the job done at Tennessee. This isn't a Butch Jones or Derek Dooley situation. Feel free to screen shot this and call me on it if I'm wrong in a few years.


You lost me at

Kentucky 2011 and 2017 were worse.


Because thatvis verifiably false..verifiable with scores and game results. Why anyone would think a loss of literally historic proportions is not as bad as any in a long time is deep in the kool aid. Like swimming instead of drinking deep in the kool aid.


Of course i do agree that it isnt as bad as the Georgia State loss....but yall get to blame that one on CBJ..im mot sure how but some still do



So in CJPs tenure he amd his staff are directly responsible for two of the most embarrassing losses in our 100+ year histroy.


But he is the guy...aight
 
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I stopped after “JT, BM obviously aren’t the answer “.
The only thing obvious is CJP put all his eggs in the JG basket in 2018, 2019 and 2020.
It didn’t work the first 2, it shouldn’t of been the plan this year.
BM, JT, & HB should of been the plan, get all three as many practice snaps as possible, play all three if healthy and see who can lead the team now.
BM and JT have never been given an opportunity to prepare as the starter and play through mistakes and get better. The have been used as a placeholder for when CJP wants to punish his little puppy for crappin on the floor, that’s all.
It’s obvious without a seasoned high football iq QB , the offense is not going to click, The O line is having trouble with it too as are the running backs.
If the young guys can’t handle it all, simplify it down Chaney! That is if Pruitt would wake up and smell the rotten eggs in his broken basket!
 
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Lol at the "he knows how to build championship programs". The guy doesn't even know how to run one much less build it into a championship contender. Also, this amazing defensive mind gets regularly blown away by inferior talent. If we keep hiring these nobodies just because they worked for Saban then were are going to continue to get the same results.
 
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Also no offense but please stop with the Dabo comparisons, that horse has been beaten to death and you know the exact same arguments could (and were) made for Dooley and Jones.

Plus Dabo went 6-7 his actual 2nd year and won his divison in his first full year. This isn't even comparable.

It's not an argument FOR anyone. It means that you don't know the ultimate direction a coach will take a program at this point. Dabo also inherited more talent in an easier conference. But the point remains...it's not time to decide that Pruitt is a failure. Not even close. He may be, he may not be. I happen to think he'll get it done.
 
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Everyone knew no spring practice or real summer/fall camp was going to turn out a product that could be easily classified somewhere between Not Really Good and Barely Mediocre. What we got was a huge steaming sh!tshow covered in burnt hair served by a redneck in gypsy drag and a QB whose name could easily be mistaken for to a detention facility on a small island in the Caribbean.




Also, the insurance sales, you are giving him too much credit. I'm thinking mid level Cricket Mobile night shift manager. I'm willing to bet some of his truest homers on here can easily get him on the team...
 
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I agree with the OP on everything said except one thing.

If you know it, and I know it, and everyone knows it...what does this week of practice look like to the players...a death march?

Play the kid.
 
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It would be difficult to add to what has already been said about the Kentucky game. There wasn't a lot of positive to take from this.

-Obviously, QB play killed us. We knew last week that JG wasn't going to get us through the season. But I didn't expect this. He usually plays okay against the Kentuckys of the world. But he was abysmal. I'm hard pressed to think of a time a QB killed Tennessee more in a single game. Maybe Peterman at Florida, but that was a freshman starting his first game in The Swamp (I'll allude to that later), this is a 5th year senior with a ton of experience. Worse, the team has given up on him. That much was obvious. After the second pick 6, they seemed to slowly fade. While I'm not saying we don't have concerns elsewhere, I will say that QB is the most important position in sports: a good one can hide other deficiencies and a bad one can make deficiencies where there otherwise aren't any. Guarantano is not only NOT lifting this team up, he's making it worse than it actually is. He took a sack in the first half that was absurd. All he had to do was feel pressure, which WASN'T FROM THE BLIND SIDE, BUT IN HIS FACE, step up, avoid pressure, and make a throw. Instead he stood there, like someone standing in front of a truck attempting suicide. It would've blown my mind if I hadn't seen it so often before.

-This staff needs to get Bailey ready. Shrout and Maurer obviously aren't the answers. After the Kentucky loss, you stand to gain nothing from this season except two things:

1) Prepare for next season.
2) Try to possibly upset Florida. Beating Florida would salvage some good from this season. And it's possible with good QB play.

Starting Bailey and getting him ready is the best way to accomplish both of those. You're not going to beat Florida with Guarantano, Shrout, or Maurer. Bailey has the highest upside and the closer you get him to that upside, the better for the team. You have until December 5 to get him ready for Florida. He'll get better as the year goes on, then you go into next season knowing who your QB is, which is best for him and best for the team.

That said, I would NOT start him against Alabama. You don't want to kill a true freshman's confidence by giving him his first start against that defense...just as they did to Peterman in The Swamp. Let JG, Shrout, or whoever take his lumps against Bama. As soon as that game is over, make Bailey your #1 and go into the off week with a plan to get him up ton speed as quickly as possible, with 2 weeks before Arkansas.

-That's also true for other freshmen. After Bama, start involving Wideman, Beckwith, Eason, Hyatt, and others.

-Eric Gray played well. I'll say that.

-The offensive line looked good run blocking...and that's not nothing against a very good Kentucky front. Unfortunately, JG's turnovers put Tennessee behind the 8-ball so early that Tennessee couldn't line up and run the ball whenever they wanted. But I'm convinced that if Tennessee had just run the ball every play on offense, this would have been a close game. Tennessee may have even won.

-The defense played a good first half. And I don't think they played poorly in the 2nd half (which they did) because they were tired. Like the rest of the team, I think they got defeated. They've seen the JG shitshow too many times. One more example of how poor QB play can kill a team.

-Many of y'all are the biggest chicken little cryass fans in the world. It's gross. No, it's not time to fire Pruitt. No, Tennessee isn't doomed to be bad forever. But if we keep firing coaches every 3-5 years, we will be. I saw a post asking "what does Pruitt give you besides recruiting?" Well, he's the best defensive mind in Knoxville in a long, long time. His players genuinely like him because he is genuine. He brings accountability. He has an understanding of how championship programs are built and maintained. He'll get Tennessee there. You can either be along for the ride or not. And no, this isn't the worst loss in...whenever. Georgia State was worse. BYU was worse. Kentucky 2011 and 2017 were worse. Some of those Vandy losses were much worse. This is actually a good Kentucky team. Those teams weren't.

This is a weird year. In a normal one, the QB problem would have been addressed in spring because the best QB on the roster would've had an entire spring practice to get up to speed. Instead, Bailey didn't get a spring or a fall practice. Pruitt was left a crap QB room when he took over. It's hard to go land a 5* QB recruit coming off a 4-8 season with terrible OLine play. But in his 2nd full recruiting class, he landed one. He didn't get a chance to develop him early. But he will. And that will make this team look much better. Dan Mullen, on the other hand, looks great because of what he inherited. He got Franks AND Trask (not to mention Kyle Pitts, who committed to the prior staff...and a bevy of other talented players). Think Pruitt wouldn't kill for either? But Pruitt has drastically increased the talent level and player development. He is a first time head coach and he is still learning. That's undeniable. But talk of firing him at this point is ridiculous.

This is kind of a throwaway season anyway. Use it to build the program. Like it or not, that's still happening. We're not there, nor should we be. You don't fire a coach based on the results of this weird year with truncated practice times, players coming and going into quarantine, a weird schedule, no spring practice, etc. I know, "everyone else is dealing with the same thing." True. But everyone else isn't building from what Tennessee was building from. Everyone else doesn't have to deal with no viable QB option from the upper class, so they HAD to rely on the true freshman.

Moreover, should Clemson have fired Dabo after he went 6-7 his third year? Should Tennessee have fired Fulmer after he started 1-3 in his 3rd year with A TON more talent? That team lost to a 3-win UCLA team and a bad Mississippi State team. Common denominator? Bad QB play...until the freshman kind named Manning got up to speed.

Jeremy Pruitt will get the job done at Tennessee. This isn't a Butch Jones or Derek Dooley situation. Feel free to screen shot this and call me on it if I'm wrong in a few years.
Great post. The millennials won’t like it but you are right.
 
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I wish I had as much confidence about CJP as you. I honestly have a hard time understanding how we have this qb problem three years into his tenure. He either (1) can’t recruit a quality qb; (2) can’t evaluate qb talent; or (3) can’t coach or find coaches that know how to coach a qb. Can you honestly, with straight face, tell me that JG is a better qb now than three years ago? His line is better and his skill players are better (and I do give CJP the credit for that) but he is not.
 
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