Speaking of starting QB's, remember when...

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BeardedVol said:
No matter how much you want it to be true, these are not the standings of a successful SEC quarterback, unless you redefine the world successful to mean, "participated".

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Awful.

In this era of College Football, where you can't even defend the pass the way you used to, he's putting up such pedestrian numbers...

4 passing TD in 3 games... depressing
I think Jones for Bama has like 12?
 
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1vol8 said:
No.... you have heard why and you’ve refused to acknowledge the reasons. There’s a difference.
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Simple difference of (strongly worded)
OPINIONS both ways.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Joey Matthews was the biggest joke of a starting QB at UT since CJ Leak
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I heard his dad went off on the staff bc they passed on the 2nd coming of PM. And that brings up an interesting thot ... Isn't it weird that we went from 2 straight Heisman runner up QBs and both top 5 draft picks ... yet our QB recruiting / development has been pedestrian for 20+ years since
 
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livefaith said:
I heard his dad went off on the staff bc they passed on the 2nd coming of PM. And that brings up an interesting thot ... Isn't it weird that we went from 2 straight Heisman runner up QBs and both top 5 draft picks ... yet our QB recruiting / development has been pedestrian for 20+ years since
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Agree....I scratch my head on our QB issues over the past several years....It's been like a soap opera and a B rated movie.
 
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k-town_king said:
Peterman was mediocre in college. He literally had one 300 yard game. He got lucky it was against Clemson and scout saw it.

He then became literally the worst NFL qb and maybe player ever.

I wouldn't use Peterman as an I gotcha. lmao
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Peterman threw for over 5100 yards in his 2 seasons at Pitt with 47 TD's, 512 rushing yards, 4 rushing TD's but you go ahead and spew nonsense as if it means something.

In 4 years as a starter at Tennessee JG has 5726 yards as a starter with 36 passing TD's, -93 yards rushing (yes, that is negative 93 yards rushing).

Tell us more about your opinion on QB play.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Whatever he did in the NFL Is completely irrelevant to the fact that he couldn’t perform while here. You don’t play guys who can’t perform regardless of how much natural talent they have......see a plethora of highly touted recruits who never amounted to much for reference
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OP said “look how that ended” and I pointed out that his career ended up in the NFL. Not sure how that’s irrelevant. His tenure here was obviously due to a lack of development and throwing him to the wolves. One could argue his time here is more irrelevant than his time in the NFL.
 
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livefaith said:
I heard his dad went off on the staff bc they passed on the 2nd coming of PM. And that brings up an interesting thot ... Isn't it weird that we went from 2 straight Heisman runner up QBs and both top 5 draft picks ... yet our QB recruiting / development has been pedestrian for 20+ years since
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Forgot Tee Martin and Casey Clausen in that timeline.
 
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livefaith said:
I heard his dad went off on the staff bc they passed on the 2nd coming of PM. And that brings up an interesting thot ... Isn't it weird that we went from 2 straight Heisman runner up QBs and both top 5 draft picks ... yet our QB recruiting / development has been pedestrian for 20+ years since
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Clausen was a helluva QB. Won a lot of big games on the road
 
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livefaith said:
I heard his dad went off on the staff bc they passed on the 2nd coming of PM. And that brings up an interesting thot ... Isn't it weird that we went from 2 straight Heisman runner up QBs and both top 5 draft picks ... yet our QB recruiting / development has been pedestrian for 20+ years since
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Tee Martin, Casey Clausen and Erik Ainge weren’t exactly pedestrian. But you can tie the drop off to the day David Cutcliffe took the Duke job after the 2007 season.
 
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BeardedVol said:
The mental gymnastics some people will do to try to justify playing a 5th year senior who still can't read a defense.
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Yeah.

Using Butch Jones as the voice of reason in an effort to defend Guarantano and Pruitt should probably require some pre post stretching to avoid a hammy issue or pulled muscle.
 
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1TheCoach1 said:
Peterman threw for over 5100 yards in his 2 seasons at Pitt with 47 TD's, 512 rushing yards, 4 rushing TD's but you go ahead and spew nonsense as if it means something.

In 4 years as a starter at Tennessee JG has 5726 yards as a starter with 36 passing TD's, -93 yards rushing (yes, that is negative 93 yards rushing).

Tell us more about your opinion on QB play.
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In the same two year span, Dobbs had 5,237 passing yards and 42 passing TDs, 1502 rushing yards and 23 rushing TD’s...and won more games. That’s why Peterman wasn’t here...somebody better had the job.
 
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GAVol said:
Not in 06 and 07 though. The QB situation didn’t really get hit and miss until he left the second time.
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He didn’t recruit Ainge or Crompton either...so one year window?
 
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k-town_king said:
I don't

JG has been good to great in several major stats.

Qb rating, QBR, YPA, Completion %, Turnover %, td/int ratio.

Yall like to ignore the data and talk about eye tests and moxie and attitude and crap like that.
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These are all things that teammates respond to.
 
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k-town_king said:
So he is top half each year by stats in the SEC but he would struggle in the easier ACC?

That is just dumb
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Stats are meaningless without detail. JG would struggle in any power 5 league. He's better suited for mid-major or FCS
 
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,Yes Peterman went to the pros,and has been cannon fodder for the games he played;but,has a great contract with whatever sucker team that has him on it.
 
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LittleVol said:
Yeah. It's pretty obvious what Pruitt is doing imo.
He saw what starting a true freshman against a top SEC defense could potentially do, so he didn't make same choice this year.

* Nevermind the fact that freshman is now a sophomore and should have seen the field Saturday.

But he kept Gaurantano in, because Harrison Bailey wasn't ready in his mind. I do believe Harrison Bailey was #2 QB last year already for the team in Pruitt's mind. He gave him all the reps in that scrimmage on Sunday to try and force feed him.

As a Vol fan, I just want to see UT win. I do believe in Brian Maurer's ability. Also excited about what Harrison Bailey can do. However, it looks like Brian is getting screwed...and it's no fault of Bailey. Because there hasn't been a legit QB competition...

No other way to say it. He should have played last Saturday, but Pruitt is thinking longterm development for the program. He doesn't want to risk losing Bailey. But since Bailey isn't ready in his mind, then you will see things like last Saturday where we let a game get out of hand.

I think Brian Maurer should transfer.
It has nothing to do with Harrison Bailey being better or not. Pruitt didn't even play him, when he had SEC experience under his belt...that pretty much shows his intentions.

It's not the worst path to take as a coach honestly, but it sucks for a young promising players such as Brian Maurer. If he does transfer I follow his career with interest.
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I believe they want to give BM another year to heal from head injuries.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
They need a chance this year. Shrout and BM are a another year into the program. The mistakes they made last year may not happen this year.
JG was only good in the Missouri game and 1/2 of the SC game. We should of won the SC game by 20 points but didn’t because of JG’s performance on third down.
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Maybe on the SC point, but he was also nearly perfect in the first half on Georgia. Let's not excuse the defense against South Carolina, obviously they were missing pieces, but they weren't good. O-Line weren't great in the first half as well. He certainly missed some throws, but the receivers (mainly Keyton) missed some big plays. I didn't say great, but decent. Didn't make game breaking plays.
 
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Georgia has a really good D. Maybe the best in college football. They slanted their D line in the second half, freed up their LBs, and played really well in the secondary. Chaney had no answer. Was not on JG. Vols will get better over time. But not last Sat.

Worried about KY. They are no longer your father's KY team
 
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rdk4121 said:
Maybe on the SC point, but he was also nearly perfect in the first half on Georgia. Let's not excuse the defense against South Carolina, obviously they were missing pieces, but they weren't good. O-Line weren't great in the first half as well. He certainly missed some throws, but the receivers (mainly Keyton) missed some big plays. I didn't say great, but decent. Didn't make game breaking plays.
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It was specifically the turnovers that created the blowout (13 points). Even if you blame the OL for the sacks, JG still gets the blame for the actual turnovers. It reduces the margin to 10 points and then anything was possible. JG certainly deserves 100% of the blame for the game being a blowout. Not saying we win if he did not have the turnovers.
 
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