This is not even close to being all JG’s fault!!

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EZE said:
He is the d@mn QB, and he carries the most responsibility. He can recognize the blitz and check down. Or change the play. Or throw the ball away. He did nothing to help. Instead, he was an utterly inept, deer in the headlights, 5th year senior on Saturday.
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No, he can't and that's only part of his problem...
 
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JG, by no means, was not the ONLY problem and the OL did him no favors at all. But yes, he still is to blame for not feeling the pressure and moving. If he had just a tiny bit of wheels on him (and wasnt he a "dual threat"?) he could have rolled to the other side several times.
 
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I think the OL and JG should get equal blame for this game. However, even though the OL looked like trash, there is absolutely no way you can allow yourself to turn the ball over deep in your own territory multiple times. One turnover like that I can maybe understand, but 3 is unacceptable as a QB. You have to either eat it and go down and take the sack or throw it away. It’s called ball protection and JG should know that being in his 5th year. You’re giving the other team 3 scores without their offense even doing anything. If you can’t make a play, punt it and come back next series.
 
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Boone&Crockett said:
He had appropriate time on most plays, at least for a SEC caliber quarterback, he didnt pick up on the blitz just like he hasnt ever, I guarantee he has more blindside hits and fumbles than anyone else starting in college football right now and its not the lines fault completely, sure they have some issues as well as the backs did not pick up blitzers very well but he has continuously held the ball too long and threw late, that coupled with his apparent inablility to read blitz packages gets him creamed too much, otherwise he is a capable qb, he has touch on the long ball for sure but he did cost us the game.
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He definitely did not cost us the game. The O Line that you refused to blame netted us negative rushing yards for the game and was breaking down almost every play. When Guarantano had just a little time to throw he hit some big passes. When the second half started he was getting slammed constantly with no time.

I'm not necessarily even blaming the O Line. To me, it comes down to crap coaching by Will Friend and lesser extent Jim Chaney. Four five stars on the O Line shouldn't ALL be busts.
 
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Morris was particularly bad yesterday. We are really missing Austin Pope against teams like this. He could have really helped chip some and block on max-protect schemes, which seem to be missing from our playbook anyways.

Maybe move Cade over to LT even though he is not truly a tackle. Else get a "Wal-Mart" greeter sign for Morris (maybe he just had a bad game) because he was letting everyone through yesterday.
 
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Shocker0 said:
He definitely did not cost us the game. The O Line that you refused to blame netted us negative rushing yards for the game and was breaking down almost every play. When Guarantano had just a little time to throw he hit some big passes. When the second half started he was getting slammed constantly with no time.

I'm not necessarily even blaming the O Line. To me, it comes down to crap coaching by Will Friend and lesser extent Jim Chaney. Four five stars on the O Line shouldn't ALL be busts.
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They are not busts, that was the best defensive front in the country according to what every CFB analyst ive heard has said, they are not the best offensive line in the country no matter how bad we want them to be, I blame coaching as well, Georgia adjusted to us throwing the deep ball and he kept tryin to stand in there and throw deep cause it was all that was working, if we punt those three bad series were still in the game but with the defense having to play so much it changed the dynamic of the game, who knows what happens if we dont give them the ball that many times in our territory, he has to be aware of whats goin on around him, he cant throw that ball to Eric Gray late like he did fumbles aside, that throw was terrible and thats solely on him.
 
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JP has had 3 years to find a serviceable QB, whether from inexperience, laziness, or lack of focus, he hasn’t seemed to put that much effort into it.

He is wedded to JG. His job is fine this year, but if he trots JG out there in 2021 with similar results in big games, them britches is gonna, yaknow, heat up a bit, aight?

(Figured I’d write that last part in Pruittspeak)
 
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LibertyVolance said:
He is supposed to be the game manager and giving the ball up 3 or 4 times in a row isn't managing. But I will give you this. His OC sitting up in the box should have seen that the GA defense was overwhelming his line and his QB comes completely undone under heavy assault. It wouldn't have been as bad if he had called down a set of running plays until his Offense got over to the sidelines and planned some adjustments. Chaney can't make the plays but he can observe the obvious from his catbird seat and keep things under control. That was worse than a panic. I bet there aren't many QBs in the conference that would have turned it over that frequently under the exact same pressure. Even some of the worst would have protected the ball first even if it meant getting on the ground quick.
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This is just wrong. Any quarterback being hit blindsided like he was in under 3 seconds would have the same issues. Every single one of them. Every Georgia player was going for a strip sack. Tackles cannot get beat that quick to the outside. It doesn’t matter how tight you hold the ball when a 285lb kid is dropping his arm like a hammer to dislodge the ball. The offensive line will even tell you it’s there fault if they get the chance. Stop blaming the QB
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Well his first three games this year are better than his first three games last year and these are all SEC games. Middle of the SEC QB though.
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I agree With this. He’s definitely improved his decision making, and getting the ball out quicker. Everyone trying to jump ship after a bad game against the best D in the country is asinine. Definitely not the type teammates you want on your team or the fans you want representing Tennessee. This team will fight back and win some big games this year
 
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Boone&Crockett said:
He had appropriate time on most plays, at least for a SEC caliber quarterback, he didnt pick up on the blitz just like he hasnt ever, I guarantee he has more blindside hits and fumbles than anyone else starting in college football right now and its not the lines fault completely, sure they have some issues as well as the backs did not pick up blitzers very well but he has continuously held the ball too long and threw late, that coupled with his apparent inablility to read blitz packages gets him creamed too much, otherwise he is a capable qb, he has touch on the long ball for sure but he did cost us the game.
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This is just wrong, go back and look at the tape, the strip sacks were 3 seconds or less. Blame the QB for free runners every play. The line calls a lot of their protections and it doesn’t even matter because as a tackle right and left you can’t get beat to the outside off the first step. There’s no pocket to step up into when it’s that quick
 
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EC4VOLS said:
A QB should have an expectation of getting 3 seconds to pass. We did not give him that. On the strip sacks he had two hands on the ball, nothing he could do. People should be angry with the play of our tackles not QB. The rush didn’t come from the middle it was all outside. The guards seemed to hold up in protection. Although no one gave us a push in the run game. We have to speed our tackles up. I don't Think JG held the ball too long on any of the strip sacks. He made some mistakes but most of you are putting your blame on the wrong person. Ask anyone who played or coached football. They will tell you the same. To many people on here think they know a lot about “team” football and how it works together and they really know just enough to go blaming wrong people. It’s easy to do from the couch!
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The expectation of time to throw is 2.3 (good pass rush) to 2.8 seconds...
JG for the game was 2.38
1st half 2.19
2nd half was 2.48

So he had time to throw.......problem was he takes to long to process and has a slow release....

For reference Bennett was 2.06....
So when JG needed more time it was there just not the 4 seconds he needs
 
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We might not have won this game even with great qb play. But we were NEVER going to win this game with JG playing. All 3 turnovers to start the second ya e were JG’s fault. If you can’t recognize that there’s no sense in debating.
 
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The ball was on the ground 3 times in the second half Saturday. One of them wasn't his fault (blind side hit) The other Morris jumped on, the last one was returned for a TD. Throw in the interception and he had about the roughest half of football i ever witnessed. I was hoping they'd pull him to show some mercy, he'd had enough and you could tell.
 
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EC4VOLS said:
This is just wrong, go back and look at the tape, the strip sacks were 3 seconds or less. Blame the QB for free runners every play. The line calls a lot of their protections and it doesn’t even matter because as a tackle right and left you can’t get beat to the outside off the first step. There’s no pocket to step up into when it’s that quick
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Only one of the strip sacks was by a player who got by a tackle, the first was the left tackle, Guarantano felt the pressure you can tell by his movements but he is still looking downfield trying to throw the ball, he had time to escape the pocket but kept looking down field giving the defender time to come back to him...the interception was due to a blitz which was right in his face, the correct play was called he should have dumped off to Gray quickly for a gain on the play but instead he hesitates and pumps the ball trying again to look downfield for a bigger play while rushers are in his face, last minute he throws to Gray way late and right into the defenders hands, last strip sack was due to a blitz that Chandler did not pick up, he got beat for sure, this one i dont blame JG on as much as the others but still really good quarterbacks seem to avoid these kinds of hits, he cant and never has been able to.
 
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It’s obvious the offense is handicapped by JG. Evidently we either don’t trust him to change a play (which UGAs 4th stringer did) or he can’t do it. And the QB is normally responsible for changing offensive line calls and evidently he can’t do that either.
Fact is, he can’t fumble the ball as easily as he did Saturday. None of those hits were brutal.
He is in his 5th year and it doesn’t show at all.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
The expectation of time to throw is 2.3 (good pass rush) to 2.8 seconds...
JG for the game was 2.38
1st half 2.19
2nd half was 2.48

So he had time to throw.......problem was he takes to long to process and has a slow release....

For reference Bennett was 2.06....
So when JG needed more time it was there just not the 4 seconds he needs
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Good post.
 
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Boone&Crockett said:
Only one of the strip sacks was by a player who got by a tackle, the first was the left tackle, Guarantano felt the pressure you can tell by his movements but he is still looking downfield trying to throw the ball, he had time to escape the pocket but kept looking down field giving the defender time to come back to him...the interception was due to a blitz which was right in his face, the correct play was called he should have dumped off to Gray quickly for a gain on the play but instead he hesitates and pumps the ball trying again to look downfield for a bigger play while rushers are in his face, last minute he throws to Gray way late and right into the defenders hands, last strip sack was due to a blitz that Chandler did not pick up, he got beat for sure, this one i dont blame JG on as much as the others but still really good quarterbacks seem to avoid these kinds of hits, he cant and never has been able to.
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He had time to get rid If the ball on the last sack. The blitz came from the opposite side of where JG set up in the pocket. Good Qb’s have a sense of when to throw before the pressure arrives. That may be JG’s #1 flaw.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
He had time to get rid If the ball on the last sack. The blitz came from the opposite side of where JG set up in the pocket. Good Qb’s have a sense of when to throw before the pressure arrives. That may be JG’s #1 flaw.
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On the 1st sack he had almost 3 seconds...on the int he had 2.52 seconds. But he panicked
 
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whodeycin85 said:
The expectation of time to throw is 2.3 (good pass rush) to 2.8 seconds...
JG for the game was 2.38
1st half 2.19
2nd half was 2.48

So he had time to throw.......problem was he takes to long to process and has a slow release....

For reference Bennett was 2.06....
So when JG needed more time it was there just not the 4 seconds he needs
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You are aware that is an average and he did not get that much on every pass right?

So on the bad hits there was WAY less time. He made plays when he did have time.
 
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