Should we manage to get up on Mizzou by 14,

#76
#76
tnutater said:
A 19 point loss to bama was not a bad opening game. Out scored bama's reserves in the second half. Tigers played hard the whole game.

We will not see another QB this week.
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Lol. Saban could have drilled them by 40 if he wanted.
 
#77
#77
SGMVols said:
Did you mean to type 35 instead of 14?
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Like dog years, 14 is 35 in QB1 points.

MBVFL1 said:
All we know for sure is JG is the starter and he needs all the reps he can get, i understand we need a capable backup but right now our starter needs the reps
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How sadly accurate this is...Our fifth year qb, with four years starting experience and three off-seasons working with QB gurus, needs all the reps he can get so we can't afford to develop a backup. At some point this staff is going to have to deal with the fact that they must develop a backup at every position no matter whose feelings it hurts.
 
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Volle said:
JG will lose his job again this year... he finished badly last year with VU and IND, and didn’t look any better against SCjr. He’s a tough kid, but still has poor fundamentals that leads to errant throws, some not even close to being catchable. Going 1 for 11 on 3rd down will get you beat most weekends. Pruitt would be advised to play Shrout a few series this weekend, I just hope it’s with a lead.
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And it is my understanding jg is the only one who worked with the ones in practice.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Like dog years, 14 is 35 in QB1 points.



How sadly accurate this is...Our fifth year qb, with four years starting experience and three off-seasons working with QB gurus, needs all the reps he can get so we can't afford to develop a backup. At some point this staff is going to have to deal with the fact that they must develop a backup at every position no matter whose feelings it hurts.
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Yes and its really not fair to the other qb for jg to get all the reps with the starters.
 
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TrueVolsGBOInsider said:
You act as if our coaches just fell off the turnip truck. These guys know who’s best for the job because their with them every effing day. If Pruitt And Chaney thought one of the other guys would give them a better chance to win then they woulda gave em more reps in training camp. On top of all that, using what a SC fan says about jG is about as useless as it gets
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They actually watch the game, unlike some seem as if they don't see missed opportunity after missed opportunity. Lots of very good coaches; which I think Pruitt is a very good coach miss it in qb evaluations. And also if jg is the best we have with 3 yrs of recruiting qb, they have failed miserably in qb recruiting. You obviously don't know much about football if you think your opponents don't realize the good or bad players you have on the team. They all recognize their opponents weaknesses. Jg is much easier to defend than a good qb would be, and everyone we play knows this. Jg will hit on a high percentage of short passes but very poor over 10 yard passes. And also very poor completion rate on 3rd downs.
 
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Devo182 said:
That chart is saying #2 is Maurer OR Shrout OR Bailey. Not that BM is #2. It seems pretty well established Shrout earned the backup spot.

And those released depth charts aren't worth anything according to VQ.
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Well I disagree for these reasons, if it was a wash or/or order. They would have listed it in a time tested legend as the below 1,2,,3 order below.
1. Alphabetically =. Bailey, Maurer ,Shrout
2. by number......= 12 JTS. 15 HB, 18 Bm
3. by seniority.....= 3rd yr JTS, 2nd yr BM, 1st yr HB
Finally and most important BM has more live action versus the others which is Pruitt's paramount, That's why JG will keep getting benefits of doubt. Pruitt is a coach that prefers the one's most battle tested and it's a trial/error until it just can't be.
JMO
This is why I think they roll with BM as # 2, Bailey really is just not tested enough . The EE did not help because just 2 days of Spring and the quarantine this Fall , JTS will get the 3rd reps IMO and if don't work out for him will be a graduate transfer.
Since this year don't count JTS will have 2 years left to play and will be heavily recruited.
 
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This would be great, but sounds like HB is not 2nd string yet. Pruitt, Chaney, and Tee all said in interviews the pandemic hurt HB the most because missed reps.
 
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cgrish said:
They actually watch the game, unlike some seem as if they don't see missed opportunity after missed opportunity. Lots of very good coaches; which I think Pruitt is a very good coach miss it in qb evaluations. And also if jg is the best we have with 3 yrs of recruiting qb, they have failed miserably in qb recruiting. You obviously don't know much about football if you think your opponents don't realize the good or bad players you have on the team. They all recognize their opponents weaknesses. Jg is much easier to defend than a good qb would be, and everyone we play knows this. Jg will hit on a high percentage of short passes but very poor over 10 yard passes. And also very poor completion rate on 3rd downs.
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Do you know how clutch this fool was last year on third down?? Did you watch any games last year Or have you just conveniently forgotten so you can get in a jab at JG? Go loOk at his numbers on third down last year and learn something, cause the nonsense your saying ain’t it. He had one bad game throwing on third down (first game of the year) and now guys like you are coming out saying stuff that they don’t know ish about. Do some research before you spread this nonsense. And as far as QB’s we’ve recruited under cjp, you can’t force one of them to take
The job. It either happens or it doesn’t, JG has played better and more
Consistently yet you still want to think the coaches are
Effing idiots who can’t recognize who’s best to lead the team. Coaches know best, and as far as opposing fan bases go, their opiniOn doesn’t mean ish cause 95 percent of them don’t know ish about how football at the college level really works, u included.
 
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Devo182 said:
That chart is saying #2 is Maurer OR Shrout OR Bailey. Not that BM is #2. It seems pretty well established Shrout earned the backup spot.

And those released depth charts aren't worth anything according to VQ.
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That was the talk while Maurer was nursing a hamstring. The fact that Shrout was not named #2 outright is probably an indication that they don't consider it a closed case.
 
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#87
HARTUPM said:
Put Bailey in let him get some live game reps, and see what he can do. Being that this year won't burn any eligibility. Thoughts? I'll hang up and listen. GBO!

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Talk about putting the cart before the horse
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
No backup for reps even with a 23 point lead.
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For the Pruitt administration to do so many smart things with the program, the absolute failure to develop a backup QB is mindboggling. JG only gets pulled for performance, never to get another qb some reps. It's weird and I'm afraid it's going to bite us later.
 
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#92
LittleVol said:
Yeah...so this year counts as nothing...
Theoretically he could be a RSFreshman in 2022...
He's a 5 star.
Let him play!
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For the exact reason i said in my post. No need in throwing him to the wolves then ending up with him inside his own head next year because he got Nathan Petermaned. Let's let him learn the playbook then throw him out there. We're not talking about a RB where you can have someone tell them hey you're getting the ball this play go up the middle. We're talking about who is running the offense.
 
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KarnsTownVol said:
For the exact reason i said in my post. No need in throwing him to the wolves then ending up with him inside his own head next year because he got Nathan Petermaned. Let's let him learn the playbook then throw him out there. We're not talking about a RB where you can have someone tell them hey you're getting the ball this play go up the middle. We're talking about who is running the offense.
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Isn't priority #1 winning games? Doesn't matter how many stars a guy has if he isn't ready to help WIN. This year may not count eligibility wise, but the WINS and losses count. A chance to WIN the SEC East matters. Each WIN makes it that much easier to get the next 5* recruit to come in and pay his dues as part of a WINNING program. I want that next SEC and National Championship.

Also consider missed practices. We know Maurer missed with injury and HB with Virus concerns, but we don't know how many days other QBs not named HB missed for Covid. There are privacy issues involved and if I'm the coach, I don't necessarily want my competition knowing who has had the most reps in practice.
 
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Buzzbait said:
Isn't priority #1 winning games? Doesn't matter how many stars a guy has if he isn't ready to help WIN. This year may not count eligibility wise, but the WINS and losses count. A chance to WIN the SEC East matters. Each WIN makes it that much easier to get the next 5* recruit to come in and pay his dues as part of a WINNING program. I want that next SEC and National Championship.

Also consider missed practices. We know Maurer missed with injury and HB with Virus concerns, but we don't know how many days other QBs not named HB missed for Covid. There are privacy issues involved and if I'm the coach, I don't necessarily want my competition knowing who has had the most reps in practice.
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Winning is always #1. You're preaching to the choir.
 
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HARTUPM said:
On getting Bailey some playing time early in the season...

I would like to bump this little nugget.
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Isn’t it pretty clear by now that Bailey just wasn’t available in week 2 due to missing 3 weeks of summer practice and just not being ready yet?
 
#100
#100
mrredskin said:
no
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I just don’t get what’s so hard to grasp. Bailey was a true freshman that got no Spring and very little preseason. Maurer was limited because of a hamstring. Those first 2-3 weeks JG and Shrout were the only options.
 
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