Year 4 ... Same Old JG

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amishvol said:
Keep scratching. Was thinking more of a Crompton turnaround where he went from terrible to serviceable during the second half of his senior year. Not expecting JG to turn into the second coming of Peyton.
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Well damn, just how did I miss your obvious references to Crompton and Peyton in your other post... 🤪

My point being simple, I'm surprised there are some that still hope he figures out an intangible part of his position after four damn years in college.
 
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m1al said:
Well damn, just how did I miss your obvious references to Crompton and Peyton in your other post... 🤪

My point being simple, I'm surprised there are some that still hope he figures out an intangible part of his position after four damn years in college.
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m1al said:
Well damn, just how did I miss your obvious references to Crompton and Peyton in your other post... 🤪

My point being simple, I'm surprised there are some that still hope he figures out an intangible part of his position after four damn years in college.
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Understanding context would probably help.
 
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cncchris33 said:
At this point, Pruitt and his offensive staff are either poor developers of QB talent, or poor evaluators of QB talent. There really is no other explanation for why JG is the unquestioned preference at that position.

This staff didn't recruit him, but he certainly has not developed under them. And they have recruited 3 other QBs in the meantime who cannot seem to beat him out.
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what it makes me think is, how bad must the guys be behind him? Can they even hold a football in one hand?
 
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Vol423 said:
...and QB coaching. I’m 100% good with giving Weinke his walking papers at this point. i don’t give a damn how well he may be doing recruiting. He is committing coaching malpractice with our QB room if this coaching staff believes JG is the best QB option available to us.
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I think there's a lot of truth here.

If JG is still the best option we have, as a 5th year senior, who can't complete simple passes to wide open receivers we have some poor qb coaching. What the heck is wrong with the rest of the qbs if we keep playing one that is a drive killer.
 
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1 for 11 on 3rd downs is terrible. JG's third down passes weren't good....the Johnson one hand stab-grab was the only successful conversion. He performed far better on early downs when the defense had to honor our run game.
 
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Pretty soon the fan base will start blaming Pruitt.

Let's face it, UT won that game with a LB pick-six and a USC special teams mistake at the end. Is this really the way you want to go "stumbling, bumbling.." through the rest of the season?? Despite the offensive 4/5 stars, the QB position has to be dependable in the "give me" categories. JG isn't dependable - at all. At times, he looks SEC championship quality/ other times like a junior in HS with few starts.

I posted a few weeks ago, that if they will let him run (like Dobbs), our chances improve. He did last night. I hope he runs more and more and throws when he absolutely must.
 
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If Guarantano is the best we've got, that's on the coaching staff and their recruiting. I see kids weekly at small schools hit open receivers and not CONSTANTLY overthrow them. How bad are Shrout and Maurer in practice? I agree with those that said JG made the right reads, he almost always did last night. He just doesn't possess the ability to throw it accurately or with touch on any sort of consistent basis.
 
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I've been critical of him as well. But at least he doesn't turn the ball over very often. I'm going to wait till after the Mizzou game to see. A lot of teams looked bad today and SC was said to be a decent team and the game was at the chicken coop. Their 5th year qb had his OC brought from CSU with him so he knew what the offense was. If JG throws like he did in this game next week, I'm full blown back on the please sit JG train.
 
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You all are acting like Pruitt is purposely sabotaging our chances at winning by playing JG. To me, it became pretty clear last year that Pruitt is willing to do whatever he has to do to win. He pulled JG multiple times, gave Maurer and Shrout multiple shots at playing, and at the end of the day it was JG who won us games.

I’m excited for the future beyond JG as QB. We’re recruiting that position really well. But right now you all need to chill. Pruitt clearly thinks that JG is our best shot at winning now and his comments after the game showed clear frustration with his QB (put in a nice way). If he felt anyone else would help us win, he’d play them.
 
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UTwild82 said:
If Guarantano is the best we've got, that's on the coaching staff and their recruiting. I see kids weekly at small schools hit open receivers and not CONSTANTLY overthrow them. How bad are Shrout and Maurer in practice? I agree with those that said JG made the right reads, he almost always did last night. He just doesn't possess the ability to throw it accurately or with touch on any sort of consistent basis.
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I hope he opts out next year....LOL
 
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I'd rather have a better QB who throws a pick down the field every once in a while than a QB who can't make a 3rd down completion to save his life. Either way we're giving the ball back to the other side. I'd think at this point Maurer should be much less turnover prone as a sophomore with game experience and another year of film study and coaching from Cheney. How nice would it have been to have a QB who doesn't throw it 5 feet over the head of the open receiver 10 yards away? We run the clock out on the field or score again and put the game away. We kept laying everything on the defense last night. How many times has the offense put 31 points on the board in a game in the last three years? Find the last time an SEC Champion averaged less than 35 points per game and you'll see the need to have an offense that can score more than 24, which generally seems to be our ceiling vs FBS teams.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'd rather have a better QB who throws a pick down the field every once in a while than a QB who can't make a 3rd down completion to save his life. Either way we're giving the ball back to the other side. I'd think at this point Maurer should be much less turnover prone as a sophomore with game experience and another year of film study and coaching from Cheney. How nice would it have been to have a QB who doesn't throw it 5 feet over the head of the open receiver 10 yards away? We run the clock out on the field or score again and put the game away. We kept laying everything on the defense last night. How many times has the offense put 31 points on the board in a game in the last three years? Find the last time an SEC Champion averaged less than 35 points per game and you'll see the need to have an offense that can score more than 24, which generally seems to be our ceiling vs FBS teams.
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The suddenly majestic KJ Costello threw for 623 yards last night. But he made some terrible plays as well. A pick-6, a very bad decision to take a deep throw to a receiver where the dB clearly had inside position, and a careless fumble on his very next play. Those last two gave up a ten point lead almost instantly. And he followed that up with another fumble that was overturned on an arm forward technicality. No one is trashing him for those plays. They aren't even getting mentioned. His team won so he's getting glowing reviews. JG, not so much even though his team won as well.
 
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ZZ13 said:
The suddenly majestic KJ Costello threw for 623 yards last night. But he made some terrible plays as well. A pick-6, a very bad decision to take a deep throw to a receiver where the dB clearly had inside position, and a careless fumble on his very next play. Those last two gave up a ten point lead almost instantly. And he followed that up with another fumble that was overturned on an arm forward technicality. No one is trashing him for those plays. They aren't even getting mentioned. His team won so he's getting glowing reviews. JG, not so much even though his team won as well.
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In the case of Costello it was on him so much last night that he had the number of plays/attempts ran for him that he basically had 2 games worth of everything. That's the Leach offense, you won't ever wonder if you can outscore someone.
 
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I agree that JG makes bad throws...but he did have some good moments too. The whole covid thing hasn’t helped the situation so when we say “same ole JG”, that’s not very surprising. It’s game 1...we do have to keep that in perspective.
The kid is in his own head. I wish we could find a way to address that. I still think we need a second option outside of him. Let them compete on the field until someone rises. It worked last year....sorta. Someone is bound to stand out and we all know JG plays better when he sits and has time to think. It’s just who he is.
 
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I watched the game on TV with sound from our radio group. Tim Priest constantly commented on QB JG on his many wasted throws "behind" the receivers. JG has certainly not improved this throwing factor either. Priest commented that QB JG was not throwing the football soon enough which was responsible for the ball being thrown behind the receivers. One good comment on QB JG was the few times that he ran the ball with success. That running ability may be useful in some coming games.
 
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