2020 Presidential Race

You can harken back to 2016 all you want to... the electoral college map didn't look like this 4 years ago. Joe Biden has a much larger safety net than Hillary Clinton did. Just like Hillary, Biden needs to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and New Hampshire.... BUT, he has many more states in play than Hillary Clinton did. Biden is also showing slight leads in Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, Arizona, Georgia and Iowa. Biden's path to 270 electoral college votes has many more scenarios than Hillary Clinton had 4 years ago. I don't see how anyone can credibly argue otherwise.
Lol. No.

What chance did Trump have at winning back in Sept 2016?
 
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There is a strong possibility you will be calling her Madam President in the next four years. Just remember that. LOL.

It's possible. It is also possible that the more voters pickup on this the more it hurts Biden. I also think this election is close. I think she hurts more than she helps.

I also don't think she can play racial politics with Pence. He is not that type of guy though I'm sure they are trying to ginny up some race baiting ideas.
 
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According to CBS he was down 9% going into the 3rd debate
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That was showing a whopping 11% of the vote among third party candidates which you had to know was overblown. In reality, almost all of those voters ended up going with Trump. You don't have a strong 3rd party presence this time around to mask support for Trump.
 
That was showing a whopping 11% of the vote among third party candidates which you had to know was overblown. In reality, almost all of those voters ended up going with Trump. You don't have a strong 3rd party presence this time around to mask support for Trump.

So you think that 11% has changed their vote from Trump to Biden? Why?
 
That was showing a whopping 11% of the vote among third party candidates which you had to know was overblown. In reality, almost all of those voters ended up going with Trump. You don't have a strong 3rd party presence this time around to mask support for Trump.
Well you might have that if they included 3rd party candidates in 2020 polls. The Dems and gop decided that wasn't going to be done any longer
 
That was showing a whopping 11% of the vote among third party candidates which you had to know was overblown. In reality, almost all of those voters ended up going with Trump. You don't have a strong 3rd party presence this time around to mask support for Trump.
No, I think the bigger problem with the polling in 2016 was using “likely voters”

There was a significant percentage of people who had never voted prior to 2016 - and they voted for Trump
 
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So you think that 11% has changed their vote from Trump to Biden? Why?

Let them keep thinking that. You expect them to be optimistic and have hope.

To this point Biden had a lot going in his favor but that is fading. Also, I think Trump will continue gaining with minority voters. Remember in February Biden was a long shot with a good economy. Can no message win an election? I think they have no choice but to try this route.
 
That was showing a whopping 11% of the vote among third party candidates which you had to know was overblown. In reality, almost all of those voters ended up going with Trump. You don't have a strong 3rd party presence this time around to mask support for Trump.

How many swing voters do you think there actually are? Including third party candidates in 2016, approximately 135 M votes were cast for President. Approximately 63 M for Trump and 66 M for Clinton, so, of the 129 M that voted for Trump or Clinton how many do you think were genuine swing votes? I guess what I'm trying to ascertain is how many votes are really up for grabs in 2020? Are we talking 5% of the 129 M or a much bigger percentage like 20%.?
 
Let them keep thinking that. You expect them to be optimistic and have hope.

To this point Biden had a lot going in his favor but that is fading. Also, I think Trump will continue gaining with minority voters. Remember in February Biden was a long shot with a good economy. Can no message win an election? I think they have no choice but to try this route.


I think if someone voted for Trump in 2016 they probably will again in 2020. If Biden wins it will be because he got enough newly registered voters to vote for him in the swing states.
 
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