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BeecherVol said:
Its been pretty common for awhile now.
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The first major non-Chinese outbreak (in northern Italy) disproportionately hit older people, even. I called that stuff out back at the very start.

Memories are short for some people, I guess. And the worst part is those people with apparent brain damage get to vote.
 
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Mick said:
Weren't most bars and restaurants closed or very limited capacity with masks? With such a low numbers it looks like it worked pretty well.
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You don't get it. The two industries the city didn't shut down or limit were apparently the main hubs of infection so the shutdown/limitations were selective and the city actively tried to hide it. I should say I'm surprised that the ACLU hasn't filed legal action on behalf of the impacted business owners but I think we all know that the ACLU has been a joke for years.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I can't understand why he wants the bars and restaurants to fail. Maybe because he has a lot of friends who are developers? Maybe he just wanted the 34% property tax increase from the start and saw this as his best opportunity to get it?
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I live in a small city, and the local government absolutely targets certain businesses with abuse to get their will (and I believe kickbacks) from developers.

This is an irrelevant rant but shows how this stuff happens- our bus station is located right in the heart of downtown, on a prime piece of property. The city said "we need a new bus station" despite the current one only being about 25, 30 years old (and recently renovated). They aimed to put it outside of the main core of downtown in the only area where positive development, new high-end residences, green housing, great new restaurants, etc. are located.

This would do two things- the prime property where the current station is was being sold under the table to one of our councilwomen's mother in law for new apartments. The relocation would in turn cripple the newly developing area giving said mother in law, as well as the councilmen that have stakes in other downtown establishments, a more desirable set of developed residences, as well as crush the businesses around the newly-located bus station preserving the "downtown core businesses". They lost the zoning battle but instead of backing off they are trying to change the zoning regulations, and have openly accused everyone that doesn't want the station next to their nice downtown patios and outdoor eating spaces racist (implying that they believe black people are too poor for cars, mind you).

I also know for a fact that local officials are going hard as they can at businesses that aren't either theirs or their buddies for virus "violations". It's sick.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I live in a small city, and the local government absolutely targets certain businesses with abuse to get their will (and I believe kickbacks) from developers.

This is an irrelevant rant but shows how this stuff happens- our bus station is located right in the heart of downtown, on a prime piece of property. The city said "we need a new bus station" despite the current one only being about 25, 30 years old (and recently renovated). They aimed to put it outside of the main core of downtown in the only area where positive development, new high-end residences, green housing, great new restaurants, etc. are located.

This would do two things- the prime property where the current station is was being sold under the table to one of our councilwomen's mother in law for new apartments. The relocation would in turn cripple the newly developing area giving said mother in law, as well as the councilmen that have stakes in other downtown establishments, a more desirable set of developed residences, as well as crush the businesses around the bus station preserving the "downtown core businesses". They lost the zoning battle but instead of backing off they are trying to change the zoning regulations!

I also know for a fact that local officials are going hard as they can at businesses that aren't either theirs or their buddies for virus "violations". It's sick.
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Nashville is fully controlled by the developers.
 
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utvolpj said:
Of course and my house would be a bunker. The entire world would

However this doesn't affect kids. At all

The demographics are clear at this point
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Now back to my original statement.

Mick said:
Herd immunity has always been the goal. Getting there with as few casualties as possible is the methodology. Now that we have learned the demographics of the most vulnerable, the least vulnerable decided the goal was themselves. They hide their selfishness behind the Economy and Freedoms.
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hog88 said:
Nashville is fully controlled by the developers.
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All downtowns get that way. It's the first step towards economic ruin. The city has tried to play favorites with developers and ended up with a bunch of empty apartment buildings and harsh barriers on new businesses and innovation.

They've even run off all the big companies here- about 5 developers set their own rates on rents, and this small crummy city has rent comparable to DC. On top of it this year the council voted to preserve funds for "social organizations" (I counted four or five listed in the budget that haven't held a public event or public work in at least 3 years, totaling about a half million in budget, and this is from my own limited scope) while simultaneously effectively cutting school budgets by a third because of "the virus".

Our business property taxes doubled this year, as well, and we're effectively handing about 12-15 cents of every dollar someone hands us directly to the city to spend on water drain murals, dysfunctional nonprofits, and benefits for wealthy developers. This isn't even counting what we have to eat from what the landlord passes through in our rent.

It took them until last week to have any form of small business virus relief, and what they've put together is next to useless. They were too busy wringing their hands over a single four foot tall Lee monument and ignoring the doubling in gun crimes to do anything useful.
 
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Mick said:
Now back to my original statement.
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Where did you ever get the idea that herd immunity was the actual goal? Fauci? Trump? I've never gotten that impression from our most powerful leaders. If that was the case then we'd encourage younger people to get it and protect the vulnerable. We wouldn't be closing schools or cancelling sports.

My view is that the goal is to keep cases to a minimum and hold on for dear life until a cure is found. I wish the goal was herd immunity but I don't think you're right
 
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ButchPlz said:
All downtowns get that way. It's the first step towards economic ruin. The city has tried to play favorites with developers and ended up with a bunch of empty apartment buildings and harsh barriers on new businesses and innovation.

They've even run off all the big companies here- about 5 developers set their own rates on rents, and this small crummy city has rent comparable to DC. On top of it this year the council voted to preserve funds for "social organizations" (I counted four or five listed in the budget that haven't held a public event or public work in at least 3 years, totaling about a half million in budget, and this is from my own limited scope) while simultaneously effectively cutting school budgets by a third because of "the virus".

Our business property taxes doubled this year, as well, and we're effectively handing about 12-15 cents of every dollar someone hands us directly to the city to spend on water drain murals, dysfunctional nonprofits, and benefits for wealthy developers. This isn't even counting what we have to eat from what the landlord passes through in our rent.
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I blame VT for the ruination of Roanoke and Montgomery County.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I live in a small city, and the local government absolutely targets certain businesses with abuse to get their will (and I believe kickbacks) from developers.

This is an irrelevant rant but shows how this stuff happens- our bus station is located right in the heart of downtown, on a prime piece of property. The city said "we need a new bus station" despite the current one only being about 25, 30 years old (and recently renovated). They aimed to put it outside of the main core of downtown in the only area where positive development, new high-end residences, green housing, great new restaurants, etc. are located.

This would do two things- the prime property where the current station is was being sold under the table to one of our councilwomen's mother in law for new apartments. The relocation would in turn cripple the newly developing area giving said mother in law, as well as the councilmen that have stakes in other downtown establishments, a more desirable set of developed residences, as well as crush the businesses around the newly-located bus station preserving the "downtown core businesses". They lost the zoning battle but instead of backing off they are trying to change the zoning regulations, and have openly accused everyone that doesn't want the station next to their nice downtown patios and outdoor eating spaces racist (implying that they believe black people are too poor for cars, mind you).

I also know for a fact that local officials are going hard as they can at businesses that aren't either theirs or their buddies for virus "violations". It's sick.
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These people are disgusting. I would also bet that Cooper is keeping them shut down because right when he issued the unconstitutional order some fought back and refused, I bet this is a sick form of payback
 
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hog88 said:
I blame VT for the ruination of Roanoke and Montgomery County.
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Yep.

We've got this new med school here, and so we're getting transient big city yankees voting locally and bringing the ******** in from elsewhere. They all leave after two years (without fail) but leave their voted-in idiocy behind for the rest of us to deal with.
 
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