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volfanhill said:
This is like finding the black Trump supporter. “Hey we found a Chinese guy who says this happened.” If any of our alphabet agencies believed this Trump would be screaming about it. He isn’t.
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I could believe a bio weapon that accidentally got out. Intentionally would be suicide for them. They would be immediately cut off from the rest of the world without hesitation.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I was talking about supply chain management for this particular pandemic. Someone in the administration should have been appointed to assist in directing the suppliers of when and where to ship

Of course, we all know Trump said it wasn't a big deal at that time
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Bureaucracies control bureaucracies ... period. Presidents and appointed directors are simply along for the ride. If the bureaucracy feels like getting up and doing something, it might ... then again it might not. Protections like public service unions, civil service, etc make sure that's never going to change. You can also lump in the corporations that shipped off manufacturing and still believe in "just in time" logistics even at the end of a long logistics tail. Both are national tragedies born of shortsighted policy and greed.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
OK, but we haven't had a pandemic like this in my lifetime
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Agreed. We haven't. However FEMA, CDC, and a whole bunch of other agencies have pretty much one goal - to consider the possibility of and prepare for events like this. Considering that the world has faced plagues and other epidemics and even novelists have postulated events such as this, there's little reason for being so unprepared.
 
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AM64 said:
Bureaucracies control bureaucracies ... period. Presidents and appointed directors are simply along for the ride. If the bureaucracy feels like getting up and doing something, it might ... then again it might not. Protections like public service unions, civil service, etc make sure that's never going to change. You can also lump in the corporations that shipped off manufacturing and still believe in "just in time" logistics even at the end of a long logistics tail. Both are national tragedies born of shortsighted policy and greed.
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“Just in time” is going to be something that business re-evaluate
 
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LouderVol said:
Because we arent communist? Why would we want a government operated supply chain?

Again think of the DMV, but on a national scale.

What interaction with the government has ever left you thinking " you know I wish there were three more levels of buearacts to screw me over before I resolved this simple issue"?
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Hospitals of any type generally follow corporate strategy. They stock supplies and design/maintain facilities based on normal needs - not prepared for this kind of problem. Medical equipment suppliers stock according to projected sales to medical providers - not prepared for this kind of problem. Manufacturers manufacture in accordance with projected sales - not prepared for this kind of problem. The whole chain is based on a business model of cost reduction by maintaining the barest of inventory - let somebody else carry that, and that the supply system will mysteriously get it there just as needed even if there's a huge surge in demand. In other words profit and "not my problem". Agencies like FEMA are charged with being able to respond to crises. It would be nice to think that private industry could/would handle the supply and demand regardless of the driving event, but that's not happening because profit and cost reduction are king, and that's probably as it should be, but somebody has to think strategically. How many corporations do you think are considering the day that China "declares" war whether a simple embargo of products or the real thing, where have they stocked sustaining goods, how can they rebuild/ramp up the production that they sold down the river, how will they acquire and ensure alternate supply chains, how do they propose standing up to a huge military that we largely helped fund? Where is our strategic thinking?
 
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volfanhill said:
“Just in time” is going to be something that business re-evaluate
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I really would like to believe that; but stock is capital investment that's not doing anything; so I just can't see it happening unless somebody gets his lunch eaten because somebody else did it better; and when it's a rare enough event, reform isn't likely. Face it though, there were shortages all across the board - even things like pet food and supplies were scarce and unavailable at times - perhaps not the bottom of the line stuff that nobody ever bought.

Maybe the supply system really did work better than the news media would lead everyone to believe. If that's true, then somebody damn well better look into protections for an industry (the press) that doesn't deserve it.
 
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volfanhill said:
I could believe a bio weapon that accidentally got out. Intentionally would be suicide for them. They would be immediately cut off from the rest of the world without hesitation.
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Right, also China holds a little over 1 trillion in US treasury bonds so it makes perfect sense they'd try to sabotage our economy and possibly possibly end up devaluing the investment they've made in the US- not
 
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AM64 said:
Bureaucracies control bureaucracies ... period. Presidents and appointed directors are simply along for the ride. If the bureaucracy feels like getting up and doing something, it might ... then again it might not. Protections like public service unions, civil service, etc make sure that's never going to change. You can also lump in the corporations that shipped off manufacturing and still believe in "just in time" logistics even at the end of a long logistics tail. Both are national tragedies born of shortsighted policy and greed.
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Sound's like you're talking about the inherent nature of capitalism for which there's not a capitalistic solution.
 
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AM64 said:
I really would like to believe that; but stock is capital investment that's not doing anything; so I just can't see it happening unless somebody gets his lunch eaten because somebody else did it better; and when it's a rare enough event, reform isn't likely. Face it though, there were shortages all across the board - even things like pet food and supplies were scarce and unavailable at times - perhaps not the bottom of the line stuff that nobody ever bought.

Maybe the supply system really did work better than the news media would lead everyone to believe. If that's true, then somebody damn well better look into protections for an industry (the press) that doesn't deserve it.
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Advocating doing away with the First Amendment are you?
 
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