2020 Presidential Race

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Mick said:
And Trump is so articulate, as well as a stable genius? Ever conclusion you have ever reached is wrong.
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Trump at least attempts to do what he says..... Biden’s speech the other day pisses me off...... straight up lying to those people about fracking..... that is their livelihood he is messing with.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Trump at least attempts to do what he says..... Biden’s speech the other day pisses me off...... straight up lying to those people about fracking..... that is their livelihood he is messing with.
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Cry me a river for the poor farmers Trump screwed with his war on China and the bailouts that ensued. Talk about a lying POS.
 
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Mick said:
Cry me a river for the poor farmers Trump screwed with his war on China and the bailouts that ensued. Talk about a lying POS.
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He stated he was going to do all that to try and make better deals for America..... you can argue that he wasn’t successful although it looked like he was getting close before covid.... he didn’t do speech after speech talking about their will be no fracking and then claim he said that in front of people whose lives are built on fracking..... he doesn’t even get the benefit of the doubt of claiming he would do something but when faced with it he had to make a different choice.... he just flat out lied to the workers of Pennsylvania to get a freaking vote....... that doesn’t even include the part about being against riots and looters while contributing to a fund to bail them out.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It isn’t the wrong thing to the state making the choice. By definition it’s the right thing for them. You just don’t like their choice.

Also as far as I’m concerned the EC count should be capped at 50, one for each peer state member of the Republic. And my system is simpler than yours and gets to the same point. Requiring not focusing on EC vote centers.
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Your solution would be 1 EC vote for Wyoming and 1 EC vote for California? You would need to amendment the Constitution for that, and no state with more than 3 EVs would vote to ratify the amendment.

My solution could be made operational within the current Constitution's constraints if the states could be convinced to put Democracy ahead of partisan politics.

Obviously nothing is going to happen, but I appreciate the conversation.
 
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Rifleman said:
Your solution would be 1 EC vote for Wyoming and 1 EC vote for California? You would need to amendment the Constitution for that, and no state with more than 3 EVs would vote to ratify the amendment.

My solution could be made operational within the current Constitution constraints if the states could be convinced to put Democracy ahead of partisan politics.

Obviously nothing is going to happen, but I appreciate the conversation.
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Yep I would need to amend the constitution to do that. And I know it won’t happen.

Your solution is already captured in some ongoing movement to coerce the states to agree to proportional EC votes if a certain threshold is accomplished. But why would the smaller states ever agree to that? It’s beyond reason to even consider they would.

Most likely we will continue on just like we have for 200+ years.
 
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My solution is to go to a parliament type system....our system is broken too often early primary states decide who is the candidate along with who raises the most money...public votes for House, Senators appointed by Governors, POTUS is leader of majority party in House and approved in Senate
 
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Rifleman said:
Your solution would be 1 EC vote for Wyoming and 1 EC vote for California? You would need to amendment the Constitution for that, and no state with more than 3 EVs would vote to ratify the amendment.

My solution could be made operational within the current Constitution constraints if the states could be convinced to put Democracy ahead of partisan politics.

Obviously nothing is going to happen, but I appreciate the conversation.
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What was your system? It sounds like just allowing states to split their ECs down the votes. Which already can happen.
 
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VolnJC said:
My solution is to go to a parliament type system....our system is broken too often early primary states decide who is the candidate along with who raises the most money...public votes for House, Senators appointed by Governors, POTUS is leader of majority party in House and approved in Senate
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Or just abolish parties.
 
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Trump says WWII veteran turning 97 is ‘sharper’ than Joe Biden

President Trump on Wednesday said Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden is less “sharp” mentally than a nonagenarian World War II veteran.

Trump, speaking in North Carolina on the 75th anniversary of World War II ending, cited Hershel “Woody” Williams as an example of how advanced age doesn’t always result in senility.

“I promised him I would not tell that he’s 97 years old, I promised. I’ll tell you, he’s 100 percent sharp. He’s 100 percent sharp. I know a 78-year-old that’s not so sharp, but he’s 97, and he’s 100 percent, because has nothing to do with that — 78 is young. Depends who’s 78, that’s all,” Trump said.

Williams, a survivor of Iwo Jima and one of the last living Medal of Honor recipients from the war, turns 97 in October.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/02/trump-claims-wwii-veteran-turning-97-is-sharper-than-joe-biden/
 
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volbeast33 said:
Trump at least attempts to do what he says..... Biden’s speech the other day pisses me off...... straight up lying to those people about fracking..... that is their livelihood he is messing with.
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Going to pay off entire debt. Proceeds to spend trillions and says he doesn't care about the budget anyways. Going to replace aca immediately yet presents no valid plan during entire first term. Those don't seem like solid attempts to me
 
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Mick said:
Cry me a river for the poor farmers Trump screwed with his war on China and the bailouts that ensued. Talk about a lying POS.
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👆🏼Anybody else notice how triggered Mick has been getting the closer to election we get ? He may not make it without a nerve pill , it’s still a ways off . LOL
 
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utvolpj said:
Going to pay off entire debt. Proceeds to spend trillions and says he doesn't care about the budget anyways. Going to replace aca immediately yet presents no valid plan during entire first term. Those don't seem like solid attempts to me
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Yeah I definitely hold the deficit against trump and is a very strong reason for me to vote for another party if they gave me a viable option...... he has made small changes to ACA but I think it is harder than he thought to come up with a viable plan..... if another party could come up with an insurance plan that wouldn’t triple my premium like ACA did then they would probably get my vote as well....... Still I consider both issues to be different than what Biden is doing ...... if Trump went to one group claiming to lower the deficit then drove across town and stated he was going to raise the deficit then that would be similar...... once someone becomes president then I expect some of them to change bc they can’t fully prepared for everything thrown at them..... That being said I don’t think Trump had any intention to lower the deficit and I definitely hold that against him.
 
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0nelilreb said:
👆🏼Anybody else notice how triggered Mick has been getting the closer to election we get ? He may not make it without a nerve pill , it’s still a ways off . LOL
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Is that why he's calling a resident Jew a Nazi sympathizer? Now it's about time for him to cry because someone's rude, and then put them on ignore.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Hunter Biden Holds Stake in Chinese Company Sanctioned for Human-Rights Abuses

Joe Biden has promised to go after companies with ties to China's repression

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Hunter Biden holds a stake in a Chinese surveillance company that is under U.S. sanctions for human-rights violations, complicating his father Joe Biden’s campaign promise to crack down on American businesses with financial ties to China’s humanitarian abuses.

Bohai Harvest RST Shanghai Equity, an investment firm that Hunter Biden owns a stake in, initially invested in Megvii, a sanctioned Chinese tech company that specializes in facial recognition software, in 2017, according to the company’s website. The firm holds a nearly 2 percent stake in Megvii through two holding companies, according to a prospectus filed by Megvii as part of its application for a listing on the Hong Kong stock exchange last year.

Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings have been a point of contention throughout his father’s campaign. Ethics watchdogs have raised questions about Hunter Biden’s lucrative positions with Ukrainian energy company Burisma while Joe Biden was overseeing Ukraine policy as vice president. Hunter Biden has also faced criticism for partnering with the state-run Bank of China to launch a Chinese investment firm. But in this instance, Hunter Biden's business deals are not just representative of nepotism or a conflict of interest—Joe Biden has promised to go after companies like the one his son is invested in.

In July, Biden vowed that he would "prohibit U.S. companies from abetting repression and supporting the Chinese Communist Party’s surveillance state." Last week, the Biden campaign called China’s assault on the Uighurs "genocide" and called on President Donald Trump to "take action."

Hunter Biden stepped down from the board of Bohai Harvest RST, which he co-owned, earlier this year, but he still owns a 10 percent stake in the investment firm through his U.S.-based limited liability company Skaneateles LLC, according to corporate records from China’s official company database. Hunter Biden’s continued investment in the firm was previously reported by the Daily Caller and the Washington Examiner.

Hunter Biden Holds Stake in Chinese Company Sanctioned for Human Rights Abuses
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Is he still barebacking his deceased brother's wife?
 
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An increasing likelihood of a map close to this and a vote total in this range.

Biden 50.5
Trump 46.4

Trump wins at 269 most likely (assuming R delegations in Congress follow form) so he might spend a little time in Omaha in the near future.

Biden winning PA and losing WI/AZ here would also be a plausible tie, and in that scenario NE-2 would give Trump 270 if he won it.
 
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Rifleman said:
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An increasing likelihood of a map close to this and a vote total in this range.

Biden 50.5
Trump 46.4

Trump wins at 269 most likely (assuming R delegations in Congress follow form) so he might spend a little time in Omaha in the near future.

Biden winning PA and losing WI/AZ here would also be a plausible tie, and in that scenario NE-2 would give Trump 270 if he won it.
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If they each have 269 it goes to the house so Biden would win.
 
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Rifleman said:
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An increasing likelihood of a map close to this and a vote total in this range.

Biden 50.5
Trump 46.4

Trump wins at 269 most likely (assuming R delegations in Congress follow form) so he might spend a little time in Omaha in the near future.

Biden winning PA and losing WI/AZ here would also be a plausible tie, and in that scenario NE-2 would give Trump 270 if he won it.
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Wth up with Maine?

It's got stripes.
 
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