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Volsfaninva917 said:
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I think most people completely misunderstand PCR (with good reason). In a nutshell, the threshold for detection changes with the number of cycles run, which is somewhat arbitrary and determined by individual labs. You can run enough cycles that almost everyone would "test positive" due to the inordinate amount of various genetic sequences in the sample. The trick is finding the right number of cycles to detect the virus without incurring a high number of false positives.
 
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Another viewpoint from a self described Liberal.
CDC Updates COVID Stats, 6% Died Of COVID Alone, 94% Had Comorbidity, Twitter Is CENSORING This
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kiddiedoc said:
I think most people completely misunderstand PCR (with good reason). In a nutshell, the threshold for detection changes with the number of cycles run, which is somewhat arbitrary and determined by individual labs. You can run enough cycles that almost everyone would "test positive" due to the inordinate amount of various genetic sequences in the sample. The trick is finding the right number of cycles to detect the virus without incurring a high number of false positives.
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This is scuttlebutt running through the hospitals around here. Health care workers are getting tested multiple times due to exposure, pt demographic served, or simply hospital policy. Retests are not consistent. False positives are frequent. The suspicion is the labs are setting their own parameters and different individuals are setting a different set of parameters.
 
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midnight orange said:
What a con.

“For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.”

That comes out to less than 10,000 COVID only fatalities.
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I think this has been discussed already, but if you'd like to discuss why "COVID only" fatalities isn't not a meaningful statistic, I'd be happy to offer my views. In no way does this reflect a con. There is no distinction, for example, between a death certificate that lists only COVID vs. one that lists respiratory distress and COVID, or pneumonia and COVID. Furthermore, there isn't much distinction between one that lists COVID and a condition like obesity when you consider the number of Americans that are obese. I'll stop there because I don't want to beat a dead horse (already been discussed) and you might not be interested in the discussion.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Well I think in March it was about saving grandma and it still is today. Difference being we now know how to live our lives without killing grandma where as in March we didn't. All people need to do is wear a dang mask for the most part.
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That's a pretty insane statement. Mask wearing is positively correlated with infections globally. There is zero evidence that mask wearing just magically stops the spread en masse.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Please. Get outta here with that garbage.

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus
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But the strongest evidence in favor of masks come from studies of real-world scenarios. “The most important thing are the epidemiologic data,” said Rutherford. Because it would be unethical to assign people to not wear a mask during a pandemic, the epidemiological evidence has come from so-called “experiments of nature.”

BRILLIANT!
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Perspective
The man was in his 60s, had underlying conditions and was hospitalized in intensive care after returning from the rally, said Kris Ehresmann, infectious-disease director at the Minnesota Department of Health.
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I hope he at least got to enjoy overweight tattooed women flashing their sagging boobs one last time.
 
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